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Old 2006-06-01, 22:28   Link #3381
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AH! Shinku-sama's pillow..... TT__TT i want one... Aw man, i didn't know they were even selling signs.
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Old 2006-06-02, 00:06   Link #3382
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suigintou suigintou suigintou fever ...

do anyone of you guys like those 2 twins?? or hina ichigo or kanaria ... they are just KAWAIIIII ...

talking about the souseiseki weopen .. it is very powerfull though ... it may cut other RM into half ..

lastly .... suigintou WEAK! Lost to Ahinku and scared to use Megu's energy ... hahah ... look she is very cool but.. coward... (gome .. hahahah)
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Old 2006-06-02, 00:11   Link #3383
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Look what I dragged in.

And who say Suigintou's weak? In S1, she could stand 1 vs 1 against Shinku when Shinku isn't using Jun's energy. In S2, she lasted incredibly long despite not drawing energy from Megu. And she trashed Hinaichigo, Souseiseki, and Suiseiseki with no problems. And even Kanaria's violin attacks seem trivial to her. She is, by far, the strongest Rozen Maiden if we minus the medium factor, and if given a proper medium, she will be incredibly powerful.

However, Megu isn't exactly medium material. She is half dead! Drawing energy from her will kill her, something Suigintou is reluctant to do. Why? To her, Megu is a very close friend, probably like a sister to her even.

Speaking about Souseiseki's shears, she couldn't even cut Barasuishou. From what I see, it is lethal but easily dodged. It is too easy to predict where Souseiseki is going to slash. And finally, Suigintou could very easily break past her defense and kill her (Grope of Death!).

Even with Jun as Shinku's power source, she is still wary of Suigintou. After all, she knew Suigintou is still, all in all, powerful.

Oh, and Suigintou is mostly powered by sheer willpower, testimony that the strength of the will must never be underestimated. Probably one of the reasons I worship her: Her willpower!
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Old 2006-06-02, 00:14   Link #3384
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talking about the souseiseki weopen .. it is very powerfull though ... it may cut other RM into half ..
I think that after seeing Hina Ichigo's vines and Souseiseki's watering can used by different dolls, everyone should realize that the strength of the weapon is irrelevant. All that maters is the strength of the doll using that weapon.

Perhaps different weapons are better at certain tasks, lending themselves to different strategies or certain opponents, but any weapon is strong if weak if the doll using it is weak or strong if the doll using it is strong. That's what matters most.
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Old 2006-06-02, 02:09   Link #3385
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Errrr...the second part of your post is hard to be understood, NoSanninWa.
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Old 2006-06-02, 02:24   Link #3386
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that reminds me of something real funny...
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Old 2006-06-02, 03:02   Link #3387
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LOL!

you bought the big huggie pillows, thats funny.
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Old 2006-06-02, 03:46   Link #3388
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Errrr...the second part of your post is hard to be understood, NoSanninWa.
Pardon me. Let me fix that awful paragraph:

Perhaps different weapons are better at certain tasks, lending themselves to different strategies or certain opponents, but any weapon can be either strong or weak depending on whether the doll using that weapon is strong. That's what really matters most.
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Old 2006-06-02, 04:14   Link #3389
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Pardon me. Let me fix that awful paragraph:

Perhaps different weapons are better at certain tasks, lending themselves to different strategies or certain opponents, but any weapon can be either strong or weak depending on whether the doll using that weapon is strong. That's what really matters most.
Ah, I had to agree with this one. We had seen Hinaichigo being the weak one, as Suigintou could easily break through her entanglement. However, when Shinku used the same vines, Barasuishou had to use the violin to break free. This pretty much show that the strength of the doll matters more.

And then, the last episode of Traumend, Bara and Shinku demonstrates that one weapon counters another, e.g. Shears vs Feathers, Feathers vs Vines, Violin Vs Vines, etc etc. The weapon effectiveness is pretty much of the paper-scissors-stone affair.
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Old 2006-06-02, 04:22   Link #3390
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The only thing we need now is an RM pic with Mion in it.
She is Rena, not Mion...
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Old 2006-06-02, 04:32   Link #3391
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heres a little more RM eye candy

http://www.csupomona.edu/%7Ebjchu/RM_poster1.jpg
http://www.csupomona.edu/%7Ebjchu/RM_poster2.jpg
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Old 2006-06-02, 04:38   Link #3392
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She is Rena, not Mion...
That`s why Jshaggy want a pic with Mion in it.

By the way...
Spoiler for animated Gin:


+ 1 great pic (hopefully no repost)
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Old 2006-06-02, 07:12   Link #3393
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Look what I dragged in.

And who say Suigintou's weak? In S1, she could stand 1 vs 1 against Shinku when Shinku isn't using Jun's energy. In S2, she lasted incredibly long despite not drawing energy from Megu. And she trashed Hinaichigo, Souseiseki, and Suiseiseki with no problems. And even Kanaria's violin attacks seem trivial to her. She is, by far, the strongest Rozen Maiden if we minus the medium factor, and if given a proper medium, she will be incriedible
Souseiseki, Suiseiseki & Hinaichigo(kawaiii) on S1 they 3 just try to stop her from attacking. That's why they don't use their full power on Suigintou(Actually Suigintou using all her power to SHUT UP! 3 of them.By seeing she use her left (or is it right)wing to stop them from disturbing her). Kanaria's violin attack may break her though but she have no STRENGH to fight with their own sisters.Actually Kanaria's attack may flew away the feathers or barasuishou crystal when Bara throw a crystal to stop her attack. Remember how Kanaria's violin attack make Barasuishou right hand CHOPPED off? That show her spirit of fighting and protecting~~~

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I think that after seeing Hina Ichigo's vines and Souseiseki's watering can used by different dolls, everyone should realize that the strength of the weapon is irrelevant. All that maters is the strength of the doll using that weapon.

Perhaps different weapons are better at certain tasks, lending themselves to different strategies or certain opponents, but any weapon can be either strong or weak depending on whether the doll using that weapon is strong. That's what really matters most.
I dont think so, they can be powerfull though you guys think their weak like HinaIchigo. Like i said before, no spirit of fighting no chance to win.

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And then, the last episode of Traumend, Bara and Shinku demonstrates that one weapon counters another, e.g. Shears vs Feathers, Feathers vs Vines, Violin Vs Vines, etc etc. The weapon effectiveness is pretty much of the paper-scissors-stone affair.
I think hina ichigo vines are a bit weak because she is borrowing Shinku's power(remember season 1?(again?)her vines are very tight until shinku cant escape although both of them using their medium's power).
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Old 2006-06-02, 07:37   Link #3394
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If you do notice, in Season 1, Souseiseki, Suiseiseki and Hinaichigo has zero chance to even defeat Suigintou. Even if Suigintou did not use her entire left wing, the outcome is still the same, she pwned them. Notice that they couldn't even get close to use any attacks against her, and the danger of being reduced into pieces of porcelain due to the scatter-shot feathers (it works kinda like a shotgun) forces them into the defensive. With no opportunity to attack, they can't hope to win. However, due to time constraints, Suigintou did not have the luxury of time to slowly dismember them with her feathers, and decided to end it quickly with her entire left wing. She is rushing to get to Shinku at that time.

But let's say both Suigintou and Shinku were using mediums with similar energy reserves as Jun, Suigintou and Shinku will be a match against each other, with none of the other dolls, save for Kirakishou or Barasuishou, anywhere near their power. Why? Because Suigintou, as acknowledged by even Shinku herself, is a very powerful doll, and all that power was coming from sheer will. Now add in the proper medium factor and Suigintou will be a terror.

And yes, did you notice that Kanaria's violin attack has absolutely no effect against Shinku, during that episode when she first attacked the Sakurada household? And remember that Suigintou, even without a medium, is already almost at Shinku's level in terms of strength (unless you add in the medium factor, Suigintou will be on par with Shinku)? If the attack does not affect Shinku, chances are, it will be the same with Suigintou.

And remember, while Souseiseki could not even break through Barasuishou's barrier, Suigintou, by drawing a bit of Megu's power, could easy break through it, and at that point in the N-field, if Suigintou wasn't so busy marvelling at the power a medium could give her, she would at that very moment turn Barasuishou to junk. And Barasuishou would not had defeated her without a Coup d'Grace, showing what kind of dangerous enemy Suigintou really is.
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Old 2006-06-02, 07:58   Link #3395
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Very nice. I like this pic.
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Old 2006-06-02, 09:27   Link #3396
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Hehehe~ It's 'almost' finished.



I just need to add a few more stuff.

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I love this. ~

Bigger version? Source?
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Old 2006-06-02, 09:28   Link #3397
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suigintou suigintou suigintou fever ...

do anyone of you guys like those 2 twins?? or hina ichigo or kanaria ... they are just KAWAIIIII ...
For brevity: I love SuiseiSeki and I dont care if she can beat Gin or not. I'm gonna vector a new Sui sig for myself during my upcoming termbreak.

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Lol milkmandan, you show-off! Hey, wasn't that the RM towel you got some months back?? You really framed it? Lol good stuff.

Mince, I'd love nothing more than to debate those points with you, but.. bleh. Later

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Old 2006-06-02, 11:31   Link #3398
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For brevity: I love SuiseiSeki and I dont care if she can beat Gin or not. I'm gonna vector a new Sui sig for myself during my upcoming termbreak.
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Lol milkmandan, you show-off! Hey, wasn't that the RM towel you got some months back?? You really framed it? Lol good stuff.
I love Suiseiseki as well. Its too bad there is no dakimakura of her >_<
Yup the term break means more time to work on AMVs and sigs eh? I can finally sit down and do a vector.

yeah that is the towel i got a long time ago. you have good memory.
I got it framed. I was thinking holes, but that would damage the towel. soo nawwww
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Old 2006-06-02, 11:34   Link #3399
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And I luv the eyepatch twins (Kira and Bara)

Wow, this thread progressed a lot without me. Anyways, send/post more Kira and Bara pics!
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Old 2006-06-02, 15:08   Link #3400
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Bigger version? Source?
I found this @ 4chan a few month ago...
and don`t have a bigger version... sry
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