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View Poll Results: Higurashi Episode 4 Rating
Perfect 10 66 52.80%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 33 26.40%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 20 16.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 2.40%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.80%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 2 1.60%
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Old 2006-06-09, 17:01   Link #141
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And who is
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*is clueless of any advanced plot theories*
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More proof:
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Old 2006-06-12, 17:17   Link #142
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More proof:
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*fears noddy*
That's amazing display of highlevel detectiveness
I'm sure Rena would have been proud of you
I wonder what all of this could mean....uuuhh the plot thickens*also fears all the conspiracies*
But I still fear Rena even more
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Old 2006-07-08, 00:19   Link #143
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Well well well. It seems some interesting theories have begun to develop after reading through every post in this thread. Other than what has already been said, the only thing that I have to add to this conversation is this.

Soley based on the hints given to us by those who have played the game, i'm almost 99% sure that Rena and Mion were innocent. I've heard several times that once you start getting more and more answers, that this chapter becomes more of a tragedy than a murder mystery. This leads me to believe that someone outside the group of friend's is the one pulling the strings. If you believe in the drug/disease/government conspiracy theory, then it's quite possible that Mion and Rena we're trying to help Keichi from the beggining of it all but he had fallen into such a state of dementia that his paranoia led him to suspect them as the ones out to get him. Ultimately, he ends up killing the only people who could've helped him and taking his own life.

As to the "trigger point" that brought him down that road..... I honestly have no clue.
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Old 2006-07-08, 00:46   Link #144
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As to the "trigger point" that brought him down that road..... I honestly have no clue.
Probably the needle in the rice ball. Everything was downhill from there.
I'm pretty favorable to the external influence idea for many more reason outside this arch, but one thing doesn't make sense if that's the case, and that's Rena's ginormous cleaver. Unless she lives in a butcher shop or something, I can't see why she'd have something like in her posession
Not saying you're wrong. I think you're right, but this little issue is still a bit of a snag for the theory.
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Old 2006-07-18, 22:15   Link #145
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I don't think Rena was carrying a cleaver in that scene, K1 was just seeing things. I think that since Rena had already scarred him before with the cleaver that his paranoid dilusional mind put it there (maybe its really just a school bag or something).

In that scene Rena was trying her hardest to help K1. If you take away all the weird and distorted camera shots and the creepy voice and just pay attention to the dialogue, it seems really normal.

Also, the needle scene was a symptom of K1's insanity, not a cause. There was no needle. With the (also distorted) dialogue he just had with the girls before, he was expecting something like that

1) He manages to find the needle in one small bite.
2) There's no blood.
3) It is gone when Ooshi asks for it as evidence.

Though, it is true it is the first scene that he is completely bonkers.
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Old 2006-12-28, 03:49   Link #146
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Possibly, I'm hearing the footsteps too.
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Old 2008-03-25, 21:58   Link #147
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Just watched this arc.
It's obvious that the cop Oishi is the main criminal who with the help of some friends drives Keichi into panic/madness and makes him go on a killing spree.
The main evidence is the way he keeps supplying Keichi with more and more
scary bits of desinformation. I wonder hom much of his story was a lie...
From what I've read in this thread, he might have used some drugs too.
He can easily remove evidence from the scene of crime.
Motivation - we've been shown that he has some past with Mion (she was saying "I should've killed him", etc.) so this all was to remove former accomplices.

...If only Keichi had the presense of mind to understand that his friends never had a reason to kill him to begin with - he doesn't know anything that the cop doesn't know!, to understand that he was being used.
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Old 2008-03-26, 04:25   Link #148
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Just watched this arc.
It's obvious that the cop Oishi is the main criminal who with the help of some friends drives Keichi into panic/madness and makes him go on a killing spree.
There's actually a rumor in Hinamizawa that Oishi is the harbinger of Oyashiro-sama's curse.
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Old 2008-07-08, 18:02   Link #149
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Ok so here's what I don't get...Can somebody PLEASE answer it?
Spoiler for events of episode 4:
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Old 2008-07-08, 18:21   Link #150
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I'll not answer all, but you just started Higurashi now or you already watched Higurashi + Higurashi Kai and you're just asking? Because, if you started now, it's no good if people explain this things to you XD



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Ok so here's what I don't get...Can somebody PLEASE answer it?
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Old 2008-07-09, 10:41   Link #151
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Ok so here's what I don't get...Can somebody PLEASE answer it?
Spoiler for events of episode 4:
As of yet, all of your assumptions are wrong, save for one. Furthermore, if you think the ending of episode 4 was confusing, wait until the first 2 minutes of episode 5.


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Old 2008-07-10, 12:29   Link #152
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[QUOTE=Dante of the Inferno;1715152]As of yet, all of your assumptions are wrong, save for one. Furthermore, if you think the ending of episode 4 was confusing, wait until the first 2 minutes of episode 5.

well all i have to say is
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Old 2010-01-18, 14:20   Link #153
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Wow what an end to this first arc, still leaves lots of questions, also it's best not to watch this show right before bed, you end up with some bizarre dreams.
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