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Old 2006-07-10, 06:21   Link #41
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Wow 1st episode was surprisingly good, I liked it a lot, even new designs were somehow fitting. OP is great too.
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It's fairly good, but, honestly, I am not a fan of series that show you how fucked up people are in order to make you feel good about yourself.
You can look at it that way but then lot of folks will be able to identify with or feel close to some of the NHK characters including Satou, well in Japan at least.
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Old 2006-07-10, 09:53   Link #42
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Wow, your first impressions sound good. I can't wait for the subs.

BTW, check out the novel's cover drawn by Yoshitoshi ABe for comparison with the anime and manga art:



IMO each have their own charm, but I'm a bit biased with the novel version since I'm a bit of an ABe fan.
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Old 2006-07-10, 10:25   Link #43
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It's kind of funny how there are really very adverse reactions to the show. Is it really because they didn't draw the female characters as cutely as they did in the manga? I'm almost wondering if the show is poking fun at people like you (but of course, I can't say a single thing seeing that I have never read the manga)


What I can't understand is why people hate the OP I guess they prefer something cutesy and normal-coloured like Haruhi's OP. It's really YMMV with this show... I think it'll be interesting to watch just to see the viewer reactions - especially the difference between the manga fans and those who haven't read the manga.
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Old 2006-07-10, 11:14   Link #44
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How can anyone hate OP? OP is awesomah! ;D.
I was sceptic because of Gonzo production just like everyone, but that Keroro Gunso director (Yusuke Yamamoto) obviously knows whats he's doing. The only possible problem with future episodes might be budget limitations and then we'll probably see animation quality suffer cause of it.
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Old 2006-07-10, 11:28   Link #45
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Yeah. Considering how he piles in references to so many things in Keroro and still makes it funny enough for what, 3 years in running - he should be quite familiar with "what fans want".

I wonder if he'll actually make sure the lead guy gets portrayed as seriously, realistically screwed up as possible knowing very well in mind that there are many lonesome otaku/near-hikkis/hikkis (?) watching this very show.

Perhaps there's a reason behind them going for a less faithful and more er... "unbeautified" rendering of the characters. Not just less pain for the animation supervisors, maybe. Guess it's all speculation...

Edit: WHY didn't I notice this very glaring detail earlier in the OP? I love following animation production politics!!

Spoiler for for bored people :):
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Old 2006-07-10, 12:31   Link #46
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I had trouble getting into the manga, but I liked the first ep of the anime quite a bit. It seemed like quality work all 'round to me. The serious portrayal works for me, as do the character design, the script and the voices, and the simple yet rich overall look. And Misaki is great, in character design (moe but not too moe), character, and voice acting (Makino Yui).
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Old 2006-07-10, 15:22   Link #47
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I think episode 1 has been subbed by ADTRW. Can anyone make sure it's a sub?
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Old 2006-07-10, 15:25   Link #48
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I think episode 1 has been subbed by ADTRW. Can anyone make sure it's a sub?
Yes, it is. Check the ADTRW home page.
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Old 2006-07-10, 16:28   Link #49
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Let's face it, OP is way better than ED. This good OP song is made me remindered summer.

Since Gonzo have the dark history, I have to worry the quality afterwards.
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Old 2006-07-10, 16:56   Link #50
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The ED was hilarious.
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Old 2006-07-10, 17:24   Link #51
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I don't want to be burned by GONZO again. They are, for the most part, a bunch of gonzo bozoes.
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Old 2006-07-10, 17:42   Link #52
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I don't want to be burned by GONZO again. They are, for the most part, a bunch of gonzo bozoes.
Get yourself some sets of "fire resistant gears" like Zero no Tsukaima, Akazukin, Ouran and such before watching this show directed by some Anno wannabe.
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Old 2006-07-10, 18:08   Link #53
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I heard hikikomori is no longer a Japan-only phenomenon. We just don't call it that over here, but there are cases of teens shutting themelves away in their rooms for months and even years at a time.

I can really relate to Misaki in the manga, so I'm going to watch this. I love Satou.
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Old 2006-07-10, 18:37   Link #54
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Hm, this may be a little random, as I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned it...

But wasn't Jun from Rozen Maiden also a sufferer of hikikomori? I think that's when I first heard of the condition. His character was withdrawn from society and he spent all his time in his room ordering stuff online... anyway, not to get off topic, since Rozen Maiden is a different anime altogether.

On a more topic-oriented note, the premise of this series interested me. The thought of "Genshiken, but more serious" is promising. (By the way, is there going to be a second season for Genshiken?) Oh, and the opening theme is very nice. But can GONZO really pull this one off? Most of their recent works aren't exactly their "best". I wish they'd make more series like Last Exile and Gankutsuou...

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Old 2006-07-10, 19:37   Link #55
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Where can i buy the manga?
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Old 2006-07-10, 19:48   Link #56
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Where can i buy the manga?
I believe Tokyopop is releasing it.
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Old 2006-07-10, 20:56   Link #57
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It won't be out until October.
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Old 2006-07-11, 08:07   Link #58
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Wow this is surprisingly good. At first I thought, WTF is this (not seen the manga btw), but then the way they portray things no-holds-barred (i.e. annoying bishoujo anime / game music, the way Satou constantly has ero flashbacks of Misaki --- the tissue box: GENIUS!!! :P, the undiscipline that rules Japan's public schools)

I really like the animation character designs...so people said they don't compare with the manga (I haven't yet read all comments), but its still moe, and moreso because of its beautiful simplicity...this is definitely the soft digital style I was looking for. I thought at first Misaki = loli and Satou=lolikon but then later realized she's the one with the job, after all.

This is definitely a grabber for me, hopefully like how REC and Genshiken were so satisfying as fandom/industry-related shows. Now I won't too worry about Gonzo pulling this through the shits because
1.) This isn't a CG-intensive show
2.) It isn't an adventure show where visuals matter that much.
3.) The designs are simple enough that they shouldn't screw it too badly later on (well Speedgraphers designs were the simplest in the industry and yet they f-ud that one...oh well)
Anyways, I like Gonzo, they were the fan-driven studio that weren't ashamed to pull the punches. Granted, I was surprised to see them doing this and not JC Staff.

I'm a near-hikki myself, so I can identify with a lot of the things mentioned. I actually prefer the night shift with fewer people around because people don't energize, they drain. Though psychology tests proved otherwise, I dislike other people in general, usually mainstream people. Geeks and goths I can tolerate because I know that they know that society is a load of BS. I'm really questioning if it is indeed true that animation-->otakus-->unsocial. But I also realized I am very idealistic and just cannot tolerate a lot of the masks culture imposes, especially in the more conformist asian societies. I've read people do use female friends to get hikis out of the house. I feel sorry then for any female hikis, but perhaps there are none just like there are no goth girls where I live because women are socialized more. Sometimes I wish I were born female so I could be that caring friend that gives hope to low-social-status males who were intimidated by the patriarchal system of overachievement...but then I realize if I were born female I would have been socialized very differently and would probably have not been permitted to see the nether regions of society--so that I wouldn't gain the experience and realizations to have had such a desire in the first place.

Rozen Maiden was the first anime I believe that directly addressed this condition of hikikomori. Western societies because of their individualism should have less of this problem, but then you wonder...if there are 60%+ girls in schools (check the statistics), and the population is just slightly more boys...if those boys are not in school, just where the fuck are they and what are they doing.

Enough ranting...this is a good show. I understand now why adtrw speed-quality-subbed it.

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Old 2006-07-11, 08:59   Link #59
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Seeing that the general comments are good enough, I think I'm going to watch the first episode sometime later.
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Old 2006-07-11, 10:16   Link #60
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Are there anyone who loves ED outside Japan?

Overseas anime fans dislike rock?
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