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Old 2006-07-14, 16:58   Link #121
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でもなぁ、TLは面白いけど、ムカツクのはやっぱTLの後の事全然加えられない事だな。
自分のTLはreleaseする当日までどう修正されたのは... ちょっとね。
例えば、「微熱」のキュルケをFever, Passionもしは Fervourで良いじゃないかと書いといたら
EP01見たら「Ardent」に変身するし... 「燃える」と全然関係ないのにT_T
そういうのは翻訳者と編集者の話し合いで決めるのが一番。ただ、最近のFansubってスピード志向が強す ぎて翻訳者といちいちチェックするのがうっとおしい、という考え方が蔓延してて、そういった勝手解釈による 翻訳エラー(本当は編集エラー)なんて、日常茶飯事。編集作業に自分も加えてほしいって、グループに言えば 何とか対処してくれるかも。煙たがられたら、そのグループのfansubに対する姿勢が疑われるというもの 。

That's how it goes around here.
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Old 2006-07-14, 17:04   Link #122
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I don't think she's incompetent, I think she's actually a genius magician
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Possibly incompetent was too strong a word. I didn't mean to suggest she wasn't powerful. Her spells do seem to result in a lot of unintended consequences, however, which her peers find both frightening and funny. I haven't read the book, but at this juncture in the series, she does appear to have accuracy and judgment issues. This certainly makes her appear incompetent. Let's face it. You can have all the potential in the world, but if you're a chemistry student who likes to improvise, and you blow up the classroom every time you perform an experiment, you're not going to be considered competent.

She may have great potential and power. What I was trying to say was her penchant for screwing up, along with the way she moves from "hard" to "soft," makes her endearing. It helps offset her sharpness and haughty demeanor.
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Old 2006-07-14, 17:33   Link #123
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Damn, I'm glad to see your posting in this thread MaidsX3.
I loved your hard work in the Fate Stay Night forum. It's nice to see you have a lock on the Louise image monopoly too.
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Old 2006-07-14, 17:42   Link #124
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Definitely turning out better than Shana for me. The comedy works nicely because it doesn't take itself too seriously and yet the story elements are pleasantly and competently presented. So far this new season its my favorite.
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Old 2006-07-14, 17:44   Link #125
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You can have all the potential in the world, but if you're a chemistry student who likes to improvise, and you blow up the classroom every time you perform an experiment, you're not going to be considered competent.
Not quite so. If you always, even in such simple experiments as mixing water and cooking salt, manage to create an explosion - then you are really gifted.
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Old 2006-07-14, 18:09   Link #126
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Definitely turning out better than Shana for me....
For me, too. Although we haven't seen how the story will develop yet. The character design and animation really work for me. The atmosphere is well handled. And the voice acting is very attractive, especially Kugimiya Rie. Can't say it's my favorite of the new season: that would be Bokura ga Ita, with NHK maybe second, after one episode. But it's a lot higher quality than I realized it would be, and rising.

The scriptwriter/series composition person, Yoshioka Takao 吉岡たかを, apparently did the same on Elfen Lied, DearS, and Yoshinaga-san'chi no Gargoyle; did the script for Major; and did the screenplay for Refrain Blue.

I should have realized it would be good when I saw the voice crew. Not only Kugimiya Rie and Hino Satoshi, but Kawasumi Ayako, Takahashi Mikako (Ayu in H&C), Horie Yui, Arai Satomi (Kozue in Mahoraba), and Inokuchi Yuka (Anju in Karin).

After two eps, I'm really finding both Louise's and Saitou's characters quite interesting and attractive.
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Old 2006-07-14, 18:33   Link #127
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Not quite so. If you always, even in such simple experiments as mixing water and cooking salt, manage to create an explosion - then you are really gifted.
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"Incompetent" means that you do not have what it takes to do something successfully. If you create an explosion when you're supoosed to make a salted water, then you're incompetent. Yeah, you may be gifted in other ways, but still, you're incompetent. Louise may have some powerful potential, but at this stage, she's quite incompetent.
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Old 2006-07-14, 19:10   Link #128
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でもなぁ、TLは面白いけど、ムカツクのはやっぱTLの後の事全然加えられない事だな。
自分のTLはreleaseする当日までどう修正されたのは... ちょっとね。
例えば、「微熱」のキュルケをFever, Passionもしは Fervourで良いじゃないかと書いといたら
EP01見たら「Ardent」に変身するし... 「燃える」と全然関係ないのにT_T

まぁ、本当どうでもいいことだけど。全部微妙に外れてるからな。
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ま、そういうのはよくあることだから、いちいち気にしても仕方ないでしょう。ここは大目に見るのがコツです よ。

っていうか、翻訳者はあなたですかw

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暴力団は英語で何て言えば良かったかな?
Gangster group/organization?

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編集作業に自分も加えてほしいって、グループに言えば何とか対処してくれるかも。
いや、そんなことしたら多分余計に混乱するだけだから、任せたほうがいいと思う。

あ、ここは一応英語掲示板だから、日本語の書き込みは控えめにしましょう。 怒られそうだから

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Possibly incompetent was too strong a word. I didn't mean to suggest she wasn't powerful. Her spells do seem to result in a lot of unintended consequences, however, which her peers find both frightening and funny. I haven't read the book, but at this juncture in the series, she does appear to have accuracy and judgment issues. This certainly makes her appear incompetent. Let's face it. You can have all the potential in the world, but if you're a chemistry student who likes to improvise, and you blow up the classroom every time you perform an experiment, you're not going to be considered competent.

She may have great potential and power. What I was trying to say was her penchant for screwing up, along with the way she moves from "hard" to "soft," makes her endearing. It helps offset her sharpness and haughty demeanor.
Well, you should think there's a reason why Louise can only create "Explosions". It's not about whether Louise is competent or not, but about the direction of her talent. (although the anime won't get to cover too much about it )

As for the kind of dere-ness (intimacy) portrayed in this series, it can get downright fatal. We're not talking about silly fanservices, but borderline erotic contents here. I'm at volume 5 of the novel now and I'm surprised that Saito still has his virginity.

Louise's tsundere range is also far more extreme compared to Shana. She's practically the personification of the word "moody".

Anyway, Saito rules.
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Old 2006-07-14, 19:16   Link #129
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Siesta's just another Kazumi Yoshida from Shakugan no Shana.. i'm gonna give her a few episodes before she notices that Saito's a real person. ^^;
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Old 2006-07-14, 19:27   Link #130
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As for the kind of dere-ness (intimacy) portrayed in this series, it can get downright fatal. We're not talking about silly fanservices, but borderline erotic contents here. I'm at volume 5 of the novel now and I'm surprised that Saito still has his virginity.
Well, in Green Green main hero also kept it for quite a while... And silly fanservices are plentiful there.
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Old 2006-07-14, 20:12   Link #131
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Well, in Green Green main hero also kept it for quite a while... And silly fanservices are plentiful there.
What do you expect, both are written by the same author, after all. The moment you see a perverted old man using his familiar for voyeurism, you go "ah, Yamaguchi Noboru!"
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Old 2006-07-14, 20:33   Link #132
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I'm already a Tabitha fan. Has Nagato crossed dimensions from Haruhi?
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Old 2006-07-14, 20:37   Link #133
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As for the kind of dere-ness (intimacy) portrayed in this series, it can get downright fatal. We're not talking about silly fanservices, but borderline erotic contents here. I'm at volume 5 of the novel now and I'm surprised that Saito still has his virginity.
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いや、そんなことしたら多分余計に混乱するだけだから、任せたほうがいいと思う。
いや、そんなことないと思う。ちゃんとIRCで交渉したら、解決ができる事もあるかもしれん。
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Old 2006-07-14, 21:16   Link #134
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Definitely turning out better than Shana for me. The comedy works nicely because it doesn't take itself too seriously and yet the story elements are pleasantly and competently presented. So far this new season its my favorite.
I see there's still the Shana juxtaposition going on...

for me though, I just couldn't compare/contrast the two other than the voice actors used in both series. the specified genre of each were just quite different from each other. I enjoyed Shana, and I think I will enjoy ZeroTsu as well.

-->> and about the competency, or lack thereof, of Louise: well, let's just say the girl is competently incompetent that she is able to summon a commoner for a familiar, who would probably become a strong one (not to mention the runes appearing on his hand seemed to be special).
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Old 2006-07-14, 21:38   Link #135
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いや、そんなことないと思う。ちゃんとIRCで交渉したら、解決ができる事もあるかもしれん。
I'm a translator myself too, so I know how frustrating it is to see your translation altered. But trust me, you're only going to give yourself a big headache if you try to bargain with the editors/proofreaders all the time about the changes they want to make. Unless you want to do everything yourself, it's best to not concern yourself about what they do to your scripts too much.

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-->> and about the competency, or lack thereof, of Louise: well, let's just say the girl is competently incompetent that she is able to summon a commoner for a familiar, who would probably become a strong one (not to mention the runes appearing on his hand seemed to be special).
Well, we'll see about that.
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Old 2006-07-15, 00:22   Link #136
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I take back all I said about Louise's skills as a magician. I'm spellbound.


This is a larger version of a previously posted image. It's still on the small side.
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Old 2006-07-15, 02:45   Link #137
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The second episode was very good...

I'm glad it doesn't turn out to be another (stupid) Shana. The comedy is very good, and while it isn't anything great, it's an entertaining watch.
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Old 2006-07-15, 07:49   Link #138
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I'm glad it doesn't turn out to be another (stupid) Shana. The comedy is very good, and while it isn't anything great, it's an entertaining watch.
Now now.. this isn't the place to call Shana~
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Old 2006-07-15, 10:31   Link #139
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First episode impression

Arguably, this is the anime I've been looking forward to pick up for the summer season.

Parallel mirroring with Shana (at least only in character designs and mannerisms) is deliciously portrayed within an all moe tsundere context.

I'm disclosing publicly my likeness for Louise. She's just pinky cute with a spicy, spunky, bratty personality that makes her more attractive.

The soundtrack and themes are now marked MOST wanted on my OST list. The arrange and symphonic of violins, cellos, pianos, harpsichords, and percussion instrument establish and compliment perfectly the magic and fantasy themes, touched upon with an effect of mystery and surprised discovery. The soundtrack is moody bumbling, fill with ethereal magic.

Forget Hogwarts and Harry Potter, Louise owns at Tristian and is first for me to get acquainted with an anime female tsundere that virtually sucks and messes at magic.
Osman is the naughty, lecher that Dumbledore will never aspire to be.

The tsundere, the moe, the pranks, the little ecchi tones, and big-a** explosions deliver a solid performance for this first.

I will definitely keep it. However, I'm somewhat discouraged that Louise did not cry in frustration: urusai, urusai, urusai.

C'mon deliver another few Shana tributes. He-he-heh!
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Old 2006-07-15, 14:06   Link #140
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I guess that many people have realized this by now, but since after a quick skim through the thread I didn't see this mentioned I'll do it now

Returning to the topic of the names, more than the names being based on the historical figures themselves, I think the author was based on the characters of "The Vizcount of Bragelonne" by Alexandre Dumas, since the series include some of the secondary characters (but practically unkwown historical figures) of this book like Malicorne. What's more, every noble that has been named so far (at least the ones I have noticed) have names that are at least mentioned in the aforementioned book. Hence why I think "romanizing" the names to their french counterpart would be the right thing to do, since it was the original author's source after all.
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