2021-04-24, 18:21 | Link #124 | |
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However, there is one thing that keeps me somewhat skeptical of Matsumoto being evil which apparently nobody on the Internet caught aside from me assuming that Funimation correctly translated this episode, and that is that Matsumoto indicated it and Diva had interfered in the events of a previous timeline, not just this current one, confirming my belief that Episode 1 indicated that they are on a time loop. Matsumoto said, "Meaning that our objective at the time served to hinder their romance" in reference to the Sunrise Hotel crash, and assuming the subs are accurate, this indicated that Matsumoto and Diva were directly involved in the crash in the previous timeline instead of Toak, killing thousands of people just to halt the evolution of AIs, and that Matsumoto is being updated with new information from the previous timeline every time the professor restarts the loop, which reduces the likelihood of Matsumoto being some rogue AI if it has history with Diva across timelines. Of course, I don't rule out that Funimation botched the translation, which would kill my speculation on this particular line of argument. Matsumoto has never struck me as being very humane, so it would not surprise me if it tried to slaughter thousands of humans because it believed that that would further its cause to stop the AI war. |
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2021-04-24, 23:25 | Link #127 |
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I think it's unlikely that Matsumoto modified the virus considering the preview.
Plus, if he did modify the virus then it will be obvious after a conversation with the professor. It would be difficult for him to convince Vivy to keep working with him if it was revealed. |
2021-04-25, 13:27 | Link #130 | |
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Maybe he wouldn't need to. Think about it this way. Since the advancement of AI has been accelerated by roughly 20 years according to Matsumoto himself, we can assume judgement day will happen sooner too. If this is Matsumoto's true objective (make judgement day happen sooner) then we can assume that fucking up the island was his final move that would trigger judgement day now or in just a few years in the future. So Matsumoto wouldn't need to work with Vivy anymore after this.
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2021-04-25, 20:26 | Link #132 | |
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I do not think there was ever a human/AI war in the first place. There was just a virus that made AI's attack humans and Matsumoto was sent back to make sure it succeeds. That is why he keeps speeding up AI advancement. |
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2021-04-25, 21:13 | Link #133 | |
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2021-04-26, 00:28 | Link #134 |
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Yeah, it's difficult to parse what exactly the motives of Matsumoto are at this point. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt by now, but it's clearly also possible to think that he might still be up to no good.
As far as the AI advancement goes, it's pretty ironic that leaving the island be would have probably been the better course to take, because they very unequivocably were very content just serving humans. Introducing the virus may have fucked up things for humanity quite spectacularly.
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2021-04-26, 08:17 | Link #135 |
is this so?
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episode 5:
the cat wire art was actually cute, and the ai even took the effort to use different colors. Would have liked to take that home. :> M has a dream of taking care of children.. unfortunately, it's not meant to be. scary how ai can be so friendly, then turn so violent the next second when provoked. They do have a legit reason this time, some terrorists want to destroy them, so they have to defend themselves. the opening song is soooo good! Liking it a lot.
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2021-04-27, 02:45 | Link #136 |
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Will this show ever have a clear agenda?
For example, the AI agenda in Beatless is clear. AI can either make or break humankind. Ultimately, humankind has to make decision wisely. AI may eventually have their own desire, but it is due to the wish of human. WIthout clear agenda, it would be as angst AI running around. |
2021-04-28, 08:36 | Link #137 |
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I think trusting the ex-Toak guy was reckless at best. The other guy being rescued for a third time...something had better come of it soon.
I'm getting a bit irked with how little this reveals each episode given how temporary characters that aren't Vivy are. Vivy is the only real hook. A cause/greater good goal is an end worth striving for, but yikes, this really needs more to be compelled by than a motivation like that.
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2021-05-01, 13:05 | Link #140 |
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Episode 6
Wow. Perhaps not quite a perfect episode, I thought the chase went on just a bit long, but... I really enjoyed the twists and the butterfly effect that Diva's actions have had. Spoiler:
That's 6 out of 6 awesome episodes. Can't wait for the next one. (Speaking of waiting... Funimation... you guys ok over there??)
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