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View Poll Results: Byukugan or sharingan?
Byukugan 407 35.51%
Sharingan 647 56.46%
Neither 92 8.03%
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Old 2006-09-07, 04:42   Link #1061
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Neiji wasn't really describing the eyes more like where Hinata was looking at but yeah, maybe you're right.
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Old 2006-09-07, 10:32   Link #1062
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Quick question.

Once byakugan is activated, can you see the sharingan eye normally or just those chakra paths?

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both...it seems to me that t hey can choose to see chakra paths or not when activating the byakugan. The byakugan can see things with great clarity as well so I think it could see prob. more details on a sharingan then a normal eye.
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Old 2006-09-07, 23:17   Link #1063
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From what we've seen, i would say the sharingan has a large advantage over byakugen, simply because byakugen revolves around close range fighting, while sharingan excels in dodging close range attacks.This would be with 2 people, of equal skill of course, combating.

Of course the sharingan not only counters the close range effectiveness of the byakugen, but has all the fun bells and whistles that comes with the sharingan. Its no wonder oro is so interested in it no? Overpowered, i would have to say yes.

Im sure neji will learn more techniques and cool attacks with his byakugen, but so far we have seen that they all utilize close range attacks, unless they are defensive. Also byakugen is revered as the ultimate hand to hand close range fighting technique, so im sure the rest of the tricks he will pull out will revolve around this strength.
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Old 2006-09-08, 09:26   Link #1064
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From what we've seen, i would say the sharingan has a large advantage over byakugen, simply because byakugen revolves around close range fighting, while sharingan excels in dodging close range attacks.This would be with 2 people, of equal skill of course, combating.
This thread is still not about those two Doujutsu fighting each other...
Hunter said it already but since everybody seems to forget it:
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This thread is about what abilitity/capacity/etc. these bloodline can give to their user (and not necessarily against each other). Not X Sharingan user against Y Byakugan user.
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Old 2006-09-08, 10:41   Link #1065
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Also byakugen is revered as the ultimate hand to hand close range fighting technique
This is not Byakugen, but Jyuuken. Byakugan doesnt really give much to the user except for unrivalled vision capabilities. That is it.
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Old 2006-09-08, 12:33   Link #1066
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This is not Byakugen, but Jyuuken. Byakugan doesnt really give much to the user except for unrivalled vision capabilities. That is it.
Its close range fighting they created by incorporating their byakugen. Take byakugen away, and they can no longer do it, right? Its one in the same for the most part.

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This thread is still not about those two Doujutsu fighting each other...
Hunter said it already but since everybody seems to forget it:
Well thats not fun is it :|
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Old 2006-09-08, 13:48   Link #1067
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Its close range fighting they created by incorporating their byakugen. Take byakugen away, and they can no longer do it, right? Its one in the same for the most part.
One is a form of martial arts and the other is an inherited body part. There is no similiarities or relationship except that the Byakugen is use as an aid to see the vital areas that Jyuuken targets. If the Jyuuken user can determine these vital areas by different means, then he doesn't need the Byakugen.

Likewise, the Byakugen isn't used for jutsus like Kaiten (or however that swirling defense jutsu is) except to make the best use of it.
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Old 2006-09-08, 14:08   Link #1068
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This thread is still not about those two Doujutsu fighting each other...
Hunter said it already but since everybody seems to forget it:
Hmmm?
No, no there is no problem discussing about virtual Sharingan user against another virtual Byakugan user or a ninja-joe. I mean, the eyes alone won't do much if there isn't a human around to use it.
How and why these abilities could be used against another ninja is right on the topic.

What this thread isn't about is "Itachi is the best so the Sharingan is better!" or "Hiashi would beat the hell out of Sasuke so the Byakugan owns!!" or "Hinata can get lucky and blahblahblah".
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Old 2006-09-08, 16:16   Link #1069
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Neji has 360 vision even if his Byakugan is turned off. Right?
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Old 2006-09-08, 16:39   Link #1070
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Neji made a long description of Hinata's eyes while watching her with the Byakugan.
Neji merely commented on her posture, facial expressions and eye saccades.

I don't know why he would need to see any chakra points for that.

Maybe Kishimoto wasn't sure yet what to do with Byakugan.
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Old 2006-09-08, 17:03   Link #1071
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Neji has 360 vision even if his Byakugan is turned off. Right?
Byakugan is the reason of that vision, so no, if it is turned off, he can at most have 180 vision and only at visible-range.
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Old 2006-09-08, 18:09   Link #1072
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Byakugan is the reason of that vision, so no, if it is turned off, he can at most have 180 vision and only at visible-range.
But he saw Ino's fist and his Byakugan was turned off.
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Old 2006-09-08, 18:16   Link #1073
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Neji merely commented on her posture, facial expressions and eye saccades.
I don't know why he would need to see any chakra points for that.
Learn to read.

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But he saw Ino's fist and his Byakugan was turned off.
That's just ninja 6th senses, like Kabuto launching a knife at Kakashi from behind doesn't mean he can see at 360° and Kakashi catching the knife despite his blind spot doesn't mean the Sharingan see through things.
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Old 2006-09-08, 18:23   Link #1074
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Learn to read.
What do you mean? I didn't disagree with your post, you know.

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That's just ninja 6th senses, like Kabuto launching a knife at Kakashi from behind doesn't mean he can see at 360° and Kakashi catching the knife despite his blind spot doesn't mean the Sharingan see through things.
Ino was totally surprised at this, and wondered if Neji has eyes on his back.
He didn't just sense her, he saw her shaking a fist.
That was clearly a peek at his ability, the Byakugan.

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Old 2006-09-08, 19:35   Link #1075
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I like sharingan cuz like it helps predict and Copy moves and also u can use the mangekou thing plus it just looks cooler
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Old 2006-09-09, 11:34   Link #1076
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One is a form of martial arts and the other is an inherited body part. There is no similiarities or relationship except that the Byakugen is use as an aid to see the vital areas that Jyuuken targets. If the Jyuuken user can determine these vital areas by different means, then he doesn't need the Byakugen.

Likewise, the Byakugen isn't used for jutsus like Kaiten (or however that swirling defense jutsu is) except to make the best use of it.
Kaiten is just utilizing thier ability to extract chakra from their body, a technique possible due to heavy training of jyuuken.

But yes, if they can see the points in the body without byakugen, they could fight that way, but as far as we know byakugen is the only way, and they are the only users of the style. So its safe to say, anyone with byakugan knows, or will know, jyuuken anyways.
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Old 2006-09-09, 12:30   Link #1077
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i think for the all around most battle adaptability i go with Byukugan, but i think when mastered to its full extent i go with Sharingan.
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Old 2006-09-10, 08:01   Link #1078
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What do you mean? I didn't disagree with your post, you know.
No you just didn't understand it.
Tritoch wondered if Hyuga could distinguish the actual eyes while they were using the Byakugan instead of being merely able to see the chakra paths.
The answer being yes as Neji could describe the way Hinata's pupils were moving or how strength returned to her eyes or how Naruto's eyes showed absolute confidence and all this kind of stuff given Neji's liking to comment about people's eyes.

The Byakugan sees everything, if a ninja is hidding behind a tree a kunai behind his back then a Byakugan user will see the tree and the guy, and his inner coil, and the kunai (and the squirrel still behind all that).
The Byakugan isn't known to erase a part of what the user sees to see something else behind (like raikage once said, Hyuuga don't run into trees), but to see everything.
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Old 2006-09-10, 08:17   Link #1079
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No you just didn't understand it.
Tritoch wondered if Hyuga could distinguish the actual eyes while they were using the Byakugan instead of being merely able to see the chakra paths.
The answer being yes as Neji could describe the way Hinata's pupils were moving or how strength returned to her eyes or how Naruto's eyes showed absolute confidence and all this kind of stuff given Neji's liking to comment about people's eyes.
But Neji didn't see Kidoumaru's eyes with the Byakugan, only chakra paths.

You didn't reply to the other thing, does that mean you agree?
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Old 2006-09-10, 08:51   Link #1080
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Neji did see Kidoumaru's eyes, it just wasn't drawn just like Hinata's eyes weren't drawn during their fight whereas he was describing them.

When Kishimoto draws a Byakugan vision, he doesn't draw all what a Hyuga sees : it's impossible.
When Neji looked at Shino, the manga shows the bugs because it was the current point, Neji is still able to see though Shino but it's not drawn because the panel would be illegible.
It's the same when Neji and Hinata looked at each others with the Byakugan, there wasn't any background at all, all the panel was grey.
That doesn't mean when they look at the inner coil they become unable to see around them, just that the important point was to show the inner coils system.
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I didn't answer the other thing because it was retarded.
You asked, you were answered. You don't like the answer, so be it.
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