AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Retired > Asatte no Houkou

Notices

View Poll Results: Asatte no Houkou Episode 7 Rating
Perfect 10 5 17.86%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 15 53.57%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 7 25.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 0 0%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 3.57%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 2006-11-14, 13:33   Link #1
xris
Just call me Ojisan
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: U.K. Hampshire
Asatte no Houkou Episode 7 Discussion / Poll

Welcome to the discussion thread for Asatte no Houkou, Episode 7!

Thread Guidelines
  • No telling or asking for RAWs.
  • Try to keep spoilers from the Manga out of the anime thread. If you need to in reply to someone with a reference to the Manga, either PM them or use Spoiler tags (see example below).
  • Discuss your expectations of the episode if not aired.
  • Be polite to your fellow forum members.
  • Try to keep the discussion on topic and future episode spoilers out of the thread whenever possible.

Spoiler Tag Usage

Using Spoiler Tags is easy. Using this...

[spoiler=title]Don't forget to use the spoiler title[/spoiler]

....will get you this...

Spoiler for title:
xris is offline  
Old 2006-11-16, 19:24   Link #2
eggplant
Eggplant
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Haha, I can't believe Shouko doesn't know the meaning of "double boil", but the way she cuts the strawberries takes the cake.
So, Karada puts two and two together when she sees Shouko's photo (together with Hiro undoubtedly). But does she have to run away? Why did Shouko bring that picture over to the Iokawa residence in the first place?
Hm, starting to see the immature side of both Karada and Shouko (not to mention Hiro).
The wishing stone swiped? Do I sense some Kotomi wrongdoing?

All in all, a good story focusing on Karda and Shouko with plot developments, setting the stage for some angst.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yuri de yuri de yuriyuri ne!--Tsunomoto Rein

eggplant is offline  
Old 2006-11-17, 02:21   Link #3
Kaoru Chujo
Minase Inori
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Moving forward. Seven eps down and five to go. I don't think Shoukou brought the photo over intentionally, it was just in one of those books, since she never really got over Hiro. Why Karada takes off, I guess we won't know until next week. Big deal, yes, but reason to flee? Is she looking for something or running away? Where can she go? It does look as if Western-style cooking -- and perhaps any cooking -- is not Shoukou's forte. I wonder still how she can afford that apartment without an apparent job.
__________________
MINASE Inori 水瀬いのり age 18. 2010 Occult Academy (Akari). 2011 Uta no Prince-sama 1000% (students). 2012 Nukko (Sumire), Symphogear (minor roles). 2013 Love Lab (Suzu), Super Seisyun Brothers (Kohara Shiyo). 2014 Robot Girls Z (Gre-chan), Nobunaga The Fool (Chibihane, Toku), Black Bullet (Mibu), Is the order a rabbit? (Chino), Sugar Soldier (Kisaragi Makoto), Gargantia OVA (Rima), Locodol (Mirai), Aldnoah.Zero (Eddelrittuo), Sora no Method (Noel).
Hashihime blog | Twitter @nakanokimi | summer 2014 previews | summer 2014 schedule |
characters/seiyuus: | Mahouka Koukou | Glasslip | Tokyo Ghoul | Sailor Moon Crystal | Locodol | Ao Haru Ride | Hanayamata | Aldnoah.Zero | Nozaki-kun | Magimoji Rurumo | Zankyou no Terror | Tokyo ESP | Rokujouma no Shinryakusha | Love Stage!! | Jinsei | Rail Wars | Blade Dance | Himegoto
Kaoru Chujo is offline  
Old 2006-11-17, 14:07   Link #4
niwasatou
mind the gap
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: スキマの向こう
Age: 22
Send a message via MSN to niwasatou
Hmmm, twist.
Well, Karada is still a child inside, and children do run away sometimes when facing uncomfortable situations.
We'll see next ep, anyway.

But the cake, or rather the strawberries on it, really win/s.

Last edited by niwasatou; 2006-11-17 at 14:08. Reason: wth are situtations? xD
niwasatou is offline  
Old 2006-11-17, 16:21   Link #5
dxgarten
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Episode 07 screencaps and summary

Spoiler:
__________________
dxgarten is offline  
Old 2006-11-18, 01:36   Link #6
Thelastguardian
...
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo View Post
Why Karada takes off[?]
Spoiler for manga related speculation:
__________________
Thelastguardian is offline  
Old 2006-11-18, 07:32   Link #7
Srin Tuar
無謀
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Spoiler:
Srin Tuar is offline  
Old 2006-11-18, 11:53   Link #8
Deathkillz
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: uk, England
Age: 24
Send a message via MSN to Deathkillz
this is why i love this series soo much
for some reason...even with the pace as slow as it is this series have never bored me once...the episodes just fly by and again i am waiting for another outcome that has been left hanging in the air...
brilliant! the development on shouko's part is ace...she is turning out to be the "misunderstood" charater type and is not way on track in becomming one of my fav
the whole ep was focused on development and it was done in a good way...shouko helping karada, giving her new cloths and having fun etc...
Spoiler for end twist:

10/10
__________________

Siggy: hohohohoho~ | AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ | Summer2009 early review
Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS
Deathkillz is offline  
Old 2006-11-18, 15:54   Link #9
Cal-Reflector
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
A very fine episode. As much as I am a fan for quiet, slow-paced shows that focus on the characters besides than a gripping-central plot (those are good too), I had begun to worry that Asatte had slowed down TOO much. However, something significant develops in this episode, and the languid pace into which the story has settled has been jump started.

Several episodes ago, I speculated, and others responded, to what would be Karada's action when she eventually realized the true nature of Shouko and Hiro's past relationship. At the time, it seemed most likely that she would learn of it from Shouko, though figuring it out on her own from clues or slips of the tongue were possibilities as well.

I think most of us would have liked to see Karada summon her inner child's (hah) sense of duty and try to bring back the two together in some scheme; that course would have led the show down a happier, more light-hearted course. Her running away however makes the future for these three much harhder to predict, and I don't know how this show will end.

Edit: I gotta say I envy Hiro; Shouko is a wonderful woman in every sense of the word. Even the bad-cooking part, when its her doing it, is kinda charming.
__________________
Cal-Reflector is offline  
Old 2006-11-19, 09:40   Link #10
Srin Tuar
無謀
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal-Reflector View Post
Edit: I gotta say I envy Hiro; Shouko is a wonderful woman in every sense of the word. Even the bad-cooking part, when its her doing it, is kinda charming.

I think that shouko is attractive (adult form) but I had no idea she was a terrible cook. Maybe I can understand why Hiro left her now At least shouko
recognizes this, and seems to be trying to do something about it.
Otoh, Touko works at a restaurant, so perhaps she is still in the running
Srin Tuar is offline  
Old 2006-11-19, 11:31   Link #11
DoReMiFaSo
Samba!!
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
This is an excellent episode. I like it better than ep.6. Maybe because I like Shouko better.

I like the interactions between Shouko and Karada. It was so heart-warming that Shouko pointed at Karada instinctively when she was asked if she had met any friends yet.

It's too bad that Hiro didn't find out at the end that Shouko had put a lot of effort into cooking something for his birthday, although she failed.

As for Karada fleeing away, I hope Hiro is not going to blame Shouko for bring the pictures over, although I doubt she brought it intentionally.
__________________

Check out this story
Current Favorites: Red Garden, Soukou no Strain, Asatte no Houkou, CODE Geass, Death Note, Irohanihoheto
DoReMiFaSo is offline  
Old 2006-11-19, 17:20   Link #12
Cal-Reflector
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Srin Tuar View Post
I think that shouko is attractive (adult form) but I had no idea she was a terrible cook. Maybe I can understand why Hiro left her now At least shouko
recognizes this, and seems to be trying to do something about it.
Otoh, Touko works at a restaurant, so perhaps she is still in the running
By that logic, Ayu and Hagu from Honey and Clover will in the end end up spinsters... unless Morita takes them both, since he's the only who likes their cooking.

And in spite Shouko's bad cooking (and Karada's good cooking), it is apparent that Hiro's physical state was not what it used to be while he was living with Shouko in the US; might be because he got used to a meaty-diet and having a girlfriend around, both of which are important to a man's health.
__________________
Cal-Reflector is offline  
Old 2006-11-19, 18:46   Link #13
JediNight
キズランダム
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
End of this episode: Oh shi~! =D

Very cute interactions happening between Shouko and Karada when making the cake. Shouko tries her best to help, but it's obvious that she has had almost zero cooking experience before. Makes you wonder just what kind of family she came from -- if she can afford that apartment, and school in the US then I assume its more well-to-do, so maybe her mother never cooked. Nice save by Karada in finding a way to arrange the strawberry slices lol...

Since I haven't seen it elaborated on here:
Kotomi says that people think that it's a prank someone pulled -- replacing the wishing stone with charcoal. Since legend has it that a wish being granted causes the stone to turn to charcoal, although she has never heard of one being granted before.

Shouko is very childish at heart, even if she won't admit it. The original spiteful remarks at chibi-Karada in Ep1, her obvious enjoyment of the day playing a couple eps ago, and now her "I helped too!" gloating over making the cake. Cute stuff.

I don't think she intentionally brought the picture over. It just happened to be in one of her books from school when she moved. Karada says in the preview that she always knew this day would come that she would have to go out on her own, and now she has to find a place for herself. It's one of those well-meaning decisions that she doesn't realize will just cause them more grief over her running away because of them, and now they will have to search for her.

I assume she took Shouko's wallet with her, and at the very least they could track her if she used any checks or the credit card.
JediNight is offline  
Old 2006-11-30, 20:27   Link #14
Matrim
Naysayer?Fanboy?Wiseacre?
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
I was disappointed by the previous episode but this one was made up for it and no wonder, since I love the Shouko-centered episodes. The character interaction was very good and the flashbacks of Shouko's past excellent as always. And this Hiro is quite a funny guy, always forgets his birthday. Shouko's cooking reminded me of the disastous cooking contest episode of Mai-HiME. I think we need to see more of Hiro and understand why Shouko still has some feelings him, despite calling him names, sure love can be blind but still we need to understand his character better.
After seeing the picture I gotta say Karada is not as naive as she looks, the picture doesn't portray Shouko and Hiro as lovers that explicitely, though they are holding hands. But whwere the hell does Karada thinks she is gonig, I can't say I expected a lot of things to take place outside the town.
__________________
'The world we live in is always in darkness.'
'Yes, and that is why we seek light.'

Matrim is offline  
Old 2006-12-01, 05:18   Link #15
Maniac
Member
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA, USA
Send a message via ICQ to Maniac Send a message via AIM to Maniac Send a message via MSN to Maniac Send a message via Yahoo to Maniac
oohhh Boston you're my home... <3 the reference
__________________
Maniac is offline  
Old 2006-12-01, 17:33   Link #16
aliensporebomb
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: mpls, mn, usa, urth
Send a message via AIM to aliensporebomb Send a message via Yahoo to aliensporebomb Send a message via Skype™ to aliensporebomb
I think I can see some things a little better now. But I'm wiping at my
vision a little trying to get a better view.

Shouko - she obviously still carries a torch for for Hiro, still remembers
what was and is resentful about why he left and wrote that letter that
shook her to the core.

She feels his leaving and subsequent "dismissal of her services" was
probably a selfish thing but I could see Hiro thinking it was a "I don't
want to burden you with this, you should find someone better"
selfless type act - ironically, I'm guessing this is the same thing
that Karada is going "I'm burdening you two, I ruined your good
relationship" type thinking. Which might be why she left.

But we still need to know more!

As far as Hiro and Shouko I can see when they were together she tried
to do nice things for him but when they failed she never mentioned it
(the dinner out). Bad habits (smoking) and frustration, a past riddled
with regret (she never played with the neighborhood kids or whatever)
when she was a kid. Something was holding her back - she was getting
some kind of emotional payoff by holding back - she could be "right" as
long as she was some kind of victim perhaps.

I'm hoping (and this is a hope) that what this is going to let her do
is reorient her childhood that will change everything about her
adulthood when she goes back to adult-Shouko. Her playing with
those kids, her learning a little more about cooking (as kid-Shouko)
and the like is going to help her be a little more open and friendly
and maybe not so bitter.

I like her but she seems like the kind of person who sort of used the
things she didn't get to do when she was a kid and/or her relationship
that failed as a weapon or way to prevent her from progressing - in
other words trying to maintain control over her situation where she
in reality had no control.

And what really didn't make sense to me is Hiro just leaving and then
that letter. A classier way of approaching it would have been indicating
that he'd been appointed guardianship of this girl and that he had to
take care of her since there was no-one else - I suspect she wouldn't
have objected but we haven't really seen much of the negative sides
of their relationship - you can see when he was younger his hair was
a lot more in control and he's been more or less a wreck that's slowly
reverting to what might have been.

I really hope we see more about the sides of the relationship that
might have driven Hiro away - it is always possible he just didn't
care for her as much as she did him. Or, if he did he felt that by
staying in Japan and caring for Harada as guardian was a price he
had to (and was willing to) pay despite losing Shouko.

Karada's departure after seeing the photo is an interesting
development. When the denouement of this story nears I'm
hoping we have an ending opposite the one I can easily
visualize.

What turned him into a chain smoking, scruffy guy who might not be
terribly happy? Does he feel regret for the lost relationship with Shouko?
I can see hints of it but he's not saying anything - he hardly say anything
at all!
__________________
aliensporebomb is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 20:10   Link #17
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 27
Hiro's birthday is six days before mine.. :3

I've heard how emotional the next episode is, so i believe i'm doing the best thing and waiting for the subs.. though i really have to stop rewatching episode 07.
__________________
Shiroth is offline  
Old 2006-12-02, 22:20   Link #18
Sinestra
ショ ン (^^)
*IT Support
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu
Send a message via AIM to Sinestra Send a message via MSN to Sinestra Send a message via Yahoo to Sinestra
Thumbs up

Looks like we got one carefree episode before we move into the emotional ones. Watching Karada and Shouko together i dont feel like it forced anymore. THe fact that Shouko pointed to Karda when she was asked if she made any friends whos just how close the two have become. I dont think Shouko really planned on this happening so she was surprised by it.

The fact that Hiro-Nii forgets his birthday every year is kind of weird. I understand forgetting every now and then but every year thats a little tough to swallow. We got some more glimpses of the past of Shouko and Hiro in America and it seems Hiro has not changed much and neither has Shoukos cooking, man she is fire hazard in the kitchen.

I for one do not think that Shouko brought the picture over on purpose and heres why. Shouko never got around to unpacking her things before her little mishap. She had all her books stored in the closet the picture was in the book but Shouko cold have very easily forgotten about the photo. The fact also that while talking Karada about her past she was very hesitate to mention who she liked while in america. Shouko considers Karada a friend now i cant see her doing something like this on purpose she might have thought that it would be better for Hiro to tell Karada about them.

Anyone think that wishing disappeared because it granted Shoukos and Karadas wish?
__________________
Sinestra is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 02:03   Link #19
Guido
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
Age: 34
A Moment for the Two

The irony of Shouko helping Karada with the birthday cake is that even back in her college days the adult Shouko was a helpless child at the kitchen and has not changed since then and pronounced more that chibi-Shouko's an adult who got her body turned into her child self.

Anyways, it doesn't matter if Shouko still harbors some resentment for Hiro after leaving her, she admits to herself that love for him still lingers on.

I think in the present Shouko desired to help in any matter possible to get that cake done, even if Karada did most of the work. She might wanted to amend to Hiro for not being a proper woman at the kitchen with that cake.

And the episode continues with the surprises. I understood that Karada would find out about Hiro x Shouko's affair.
Spoiler:
Guido is offline  
Old 2006-12-03, 04:35   Link #20
Deathkillz
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
*Graphic Designer
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: uk, England
Age: 24
Send a message via MSN to Deathkillz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinestra View Post
Anyone think that wishing disappeared because it granted Shoukos and Karadas wish?
that was already mentioned in ep 2 iirc

anyways its becoming obvious that shouko is starting to like karada as a friend rather than resent her as being the one who took away her love...tbh she should have realized that its pointless to hold a grudge against a kid...especially one soo sweet ^_^
and it also seem that her hate for hiro is also becomming more dilute with her helping with the cake and all
__________________

Siggy: hohohohoho~ | AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ | Summer2009 early review
Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS
Deathkillz is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.