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Old 2006-12-01, 15:51   Link #1
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[Manga] Does Shikamaru have bloodline ability?

- bloodline abilities are a mixture of 2 or more elements - using 2 or more elements to make a new element
- there are only 5 elements; wind, lightning, earth, water, fire
- Shika's shadow jutsu is shadow element?

So does Shikamaru and his dad have the shadow jutsu's as a bloodline ability?
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Old 2006-12-01, 15:54   Link #2
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- bloodline abilities are a mixture of 2 or more elements - using 2 or more elements to make a new element
- there are only 5 elements; wind, lightning, earth, water, fire
- Shika's shadow jutsu is shadow element?

So does Shikamaru and his dad have the shadow jutsu's as a bloodline ability?
Everyone with bloodlines was identified, and if shika were one his ability would have been told as so.

In the databook it also states that the jutsu is one passed down his family i believe, just like chouji's abilities. Chouji doesnt have a bloodline because he can grow, his family simply specializes the techniques and guards them for use only by them. Same with Kiba, and Shikamaru.
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Old 2006-12-01, 15:55   Link #3
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No. he does not have a blood line ability. Kage jutsu is taught within the Nara clan but not inherited by blood. Shadow is not an element. Shika's jutsu work through a type of chakra manipulation known as yin-yang manipulation.
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Old 2006-12-01, 16:01   Link #4
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The closest thing to a BL for shikamaru is his insane strategic abilities and natural IQ, but those aren't really a BL haha
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Old 2006-12-01, 16:27   Link #5
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Anyone actually know anything about the yin yang manipulation?
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Old 2006-12-01, 21:23   Link #6
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Nothing is knowned yet about yin and yeang manipulation.. Kakashi or Yamato were suposed to tell him later on is training on the last chap we learned about Chakra's vulnerability soon we'll learn about yin n yang!
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Old 2006-12-01, 21:45   Link #7
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I'm guessing something along the lines of light and shadow, and healing and poison will be on each side of the spectrum.
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Old 2006-12-01, 23:39   Link #8
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Anyone actually know anything about the yin yang manipulation?
Nothing's been stated yet, only that yin and yang manipulation are ways to physically recompose chakra. All jutsu use one or more of the 5 basic elements. Katon, Suiton, Raiton, Doton and Fuuton jutsu use the elemental recomposition so the jutsu takes on the properties of the element used to create it. Other jutsu such as Kage Mane seem to have totally different properties from any of the five elements. This is where yin-yang manipulation comes in. Yin yang manipulation allows the user to take basic chakra and give it new properties. So to use Kage Mane, Shika applies yin or yang manipulation to whatever nature chakra he has, resulting in the new jutsu.
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Old 2006-12-02, 02:58   Link #9
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Everyone has a bloodline...(obviously)...however....whether this is an "advanced" bloodline is probably not the case..

I've never seen Uchiha's use techniques that the Aburame, Akamchi, Inuzubaki, Nara, Yakamano Clans use...or copy it...probably because they have a special affinity to a certain chakra that Uchiha's dont have..since most of them are Fire types..
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Old 2006-12-02, 03:21   Link #10
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naruto tried to ask kakashi about shikamaru and gangs abilities but kakashi told naruto that even if he told naruto about it, naruto would not understand the theory behind it at all lol~
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Old 2006-12-02, 11:26   Link #11
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Anyone actually know anything about the yin yang manipulation?
Safest thing we can assume at the moment, ying and yang are about the balance between spirit and body energy molded and manipulated into elemental chakra. As explained by Kakashi in the Haku arc, each element requires a different spirit-body balance for each element to take proper effect.


As for Shikamaru's jutsu.. it's not necessarily a kekkei genkai, and it certainly is no mixture of two elements.
As he said himself when he was fighting Tayuya and she started her chakra eating ghost attacks, it's chakra controlled in a special way to give it some kind of nature (not related to elements whatsoever), taking some kind of effect. Shikamaru's "binds", whereas Tayuya's eats chakra.
It's just something about chakra control that's not been explained yet.
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Old 2006-12-02, 12:47   Link #12
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As he said himself when he was fighting Tayuya and she started her chakra eating ghost attacks, it's chakra controlled in a special way to give it some kind of nature (not related to elements whatsoever), taking some kind of effect. Shikamaru's "binds", whereas Tayuya's eats chakra.
It's just something about chakra control that's not been explained yet.

But didn't Kakashi state that the 5 elements form the basis for all jutsu? So every jutsu depends on the elements on some level right? It's all about the physical recomposition you apply to it which can be elemental or yin yang recomposition. It's confusing, I didn't quite understand it.
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Old 2006-12-02, 13:23   Link #13
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Thats in fact the very reason I so object to the elemental weakness theory. Every jutsu on some level uses elements. It'd be better if kishi just stuck to using battle tricks and strategies to find weaknesses, and not turn Naruto into a bloody pokemon type rpg.
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Old 2006-12-02, 13:53   Link #14
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It's a technique under the 'Ninpo'. Lots of Ninjas can learn this jutsu. Bloodline Abilities are something that STAND out in jutsu. Like Sharingan, Byakugan, Haku's Ice, etc
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Old 2006-12-02, 14:26   Link #15
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But didn't Kakashi state that the 5 elements form the basis for all jutsu? So every jutsu depends on the elements on some level right? It's all about the physical recomposition you apply to it which can be elemental or yin yang recomposition. It's confusing, I didn't quite understand it.
That was an overstatement as not all of the Jutsus depend on this 5 elements.

Take Kage BUshin for example, How could Naruto perform Kage Bushi without even knowing how to recompose his Chakra into a Element?

Or Rasengan that does not has any element at all?

When YIng-Yang was mentioned, it was like saying that apart to Recompose your Chakra into one of the 5 Elements, you could also use the YINg-yang alteration. which does not have one of the 5 Base element.
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Old 2006-12-03, 06:04   Link #16
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Not everyone has a bloodline jhonny and shikamaru by the way they show he's line of jutsu it seems he has a bloodline but He dosen't
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Old 2006-12-03, 11:23   Link #17
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He doesn't have a bloodline, he just condences his chakra or something like that. I believe this was stated somewhere in the manga.
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Old 2006-12-05, 02:26   Link #18
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is it possible to be copied with the sharingan?
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Old 2006-12-06, 15:16   Link #19
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is it possible to be copied with the sharingan?
If it's not bloodline, then it is. Well, just my opinion, but sharingan lets you understand the jutsu. The mechanics and the way chakra is molded to perform it, but not necessarily the ability. I guess an example is lifting a piano. You can see people bend at the knees, lifting with their legs instead of their back, but if you're not strong enough to lift it then you just can't. Same thing, just applied to ninjutsu.
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