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Chaos_Shinigami · 2006-12-28, 12:49

Hiya Guys

I haven't bought ps 3 cuz it costs 1164$ in my country and its way tooo expensive but i dunno anything special about it lol cuz none of my frnds have it
and its like complete mystery to me about how it works and etc

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-12-28, 17:30

it runs on gremlins

Its great, as long as you don't feed it or let it touch water, or it will melt your disc, and give you zero profit

Ansa · 2006-12-30, 08:03

Honestly I wouldn't expect a price drop or deal from Sony any time soon, they are LOSING MONEY for each PS3 that's sold, so right now until it costs a heck of a lot less for it to be made (to the point where they actually make money each time it's sold) I wouldn't count on a price drop.

Not to mention that Sony is really dependent on the PS3's success as a company in general, this last year they've lost a crapload of money thanks to the battery recall, not to mention lawsuits with it's controller and other things, honestly PS3 may very well kill Sony... or perhaps some company would buy Sony out... Either way though, I highly doubt that the PS3 will end up getting Sony out of trouble...

HimuraKiyone · 2006-12-30, 12:41

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Originally Posted by kayos

I'm not sure if anyone figured this out yet but I found the reason for the pixel problem situation with the ps3 backward compatibility.
First I've tried connecting my ps3 with different cables from component to composite to HDMI on a LCD HDTV (the ps3 games came out looking great on LCD HDTV). The backward compatibility (ps2 & ps1) screen came out horrible but with great colors.
Next I tried using a CRT TV, the screen was like it should be, no pixel problems there. But my CRT doesn't have a HDMI connector so I've only used component and composite cables. Looks like original ps2 quality.
My conclusion, CRT TV is still better than LCD and Plasma although it's big and bulky (I would recommend CRT HDTV but I haven't tried that yet so I don't know how the pictures will come out).

That could be the reason my PS2 games look great because I use a tube. I also have heard that you can change the output resolution on your PS3. This may help too.

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Originally Posted by kayos

I guess the other problem that were known was the network problem, can't seem to figure that one yet. But I'm on that case as well (using different routers and connections but always gets kicked off about 5 mins in).

As far as I know, there is nothing wrong with your setup on that one, just poor network servers on Sony's end. The same thing happens to me. It took me three times to download a demo. But I did get it downloaded, it just took a couple connection attempts. Having Sony get their PSN working correctly would be a big plus.

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Hmm... as for heating problems, it does get hot and steamy but I've played my ps3 for like 8 hours straight one time and the disc didn't melt. Although I don't like the whole disc in slot thing, it's starting to leave little scratches on my games, not like the ps2 flip the lid (or eject the tray) and gently place it in .

Hmm, I haven't noticed the scratches, but I definitely will check. As for the overheating. I left mine on two nights ago to download something because I _had_ to go to bed and then rushed to work the next day and then did some stuff, and, well, left my PS3 on for about a day and a half. No problems. Whoo!

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Originally Posted by Ansa

Honestly I wouldn't expect a price drop or deal from Sony any time soon, they are LOSING MONEY for each PS3 that's sold, so right now until it costs a heck of a lot less for it to be made (to the point where they actually make money each time it's sold) I wouldn't count on a price drop.

Not to mention that Sony is really dependent on the PS3's success as a company in general, this last year they've lost a crapload of money thanks to the battery recall, not to mention lawsuits with it's controller and other things, honestly PS3 may very well kill Sony... or perhaps some company would buy Sony out... Either way though, I highly doubt that the PS3 will end up getting Sony out of trouble...

Sony's success does not depend on the PS3. That is only a part of their company. They have plenty of other products to float them if the PS3 fails. If you didn't know, most of the video game consoles cost money to make when they are initially put on the market. Well, the Wii didn't, but it uses a processor that is almost the equivalent of an N64, so, we won't count them:) It takes a year or two for them to be able to break even, then make a small profit. Most of the money made is on game sales. It doesn't matter if you lose money on one thing, if you make it back tenfold on something else. Basic business principle.

Onizuka-GTO · 2006-12-30, 13:04

unfortunately for Sony, it isn't making "tenfold" on it's other products.

To say Sony financial future is entirely depending on the success of the PS3 is a lie, but to say it isn't is equally deceptive.

Sony is placing a big stake on the PS3, if the ps3 fails, Sony is going to suffer some very harsh and lean times, even now, there are debates that even if the ps3 take back the market share, Soy is still due for a hard financial future, due to the increase competition in all its core markets and the consequences of the battery recall fiasco.
:/
you have to pity them in some sense, because Sony really did mess up the PR for the ps3, which in retrospect to it's other problem isn't so bad, but if you take that in account, Sony won't remember 2006 as a happy memory....

Papaya · 2006-12-30, 13:09

I think it's safe to say that Sony is taking BIG hits right now, even from Japanese devs.

From http://kotaku.com/

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Along with the news that the next Dragon Quest title will be made for the DS, comes the news that the franchise's first next-gen title, DRAGON QUEST SWORDS: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors, will be developed for the Wii.

Executive Producer, Yuu Miyake, feels the Wii is a perfect partner for Dragon Quest:

We believe (Dragon Quest's) appeal lies in simplicity that anyone can enjoy, and the excitement of becoming a hero in an epic adventure. With the Nintendo Wii, we believe that these aspects of the DRAGON QUEST experience can be taken to a whole new level of fun and interaction

DRAGON QUEST SWORDS: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors has no set release date as of yet, but thanks to the folks over at WorthPlaying, we have a bunch of new screens from the upcoming opus.

Check out all 20 here:
'Dragon Quest Swords' (Wii) - 20 New Screens

Still no word of a full-featured DQ for PS3 or PS2 yet :O

Slayerx · 2006-12-31, 06:51

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Originally Posted by Papaya

I think it's safe to say that Sony is taking BIG hits right now, even from Japanese devs.

Still no word of a full-featured DQ for PS3 or PS2 yet :O

Actually, that doesn't really say all that much...
When you talk about dragon quest your talking about Square Enix, and Square has always pretty much released games for both Sony and Nintendo... they release the games for the system they are best suited for... In the case of DQ for the wii, they seem to be focusing on "fun and interaction" or, as i see it, more innovative gameplay, which is something the Wii is more suited for... However, with FFXIII, the focus there is mostly about making the game looking downright beautiful, which is what PS3 is good for...

DS is also gonna get FFXII: Revelant Wings and a sequel to FFTAdvanced... however, PSP is getting FFVII: Crisis core, and a remake of FF Tactics (the really awsome PSX game)...

So ya, the only reason a DQ game is coming out for sony is not because the square doesn't love sony, it's just that the PS3 and the PSP are just not the right machines for the game they want to make... nintendo is where you go when you want to aim for a innovative gameplay, Sony is where they aim when they want graphical beauty...

Benoit · 2006-12-31, 08:37

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Sony's success does not depend on the PS3. That is only a part of their company. They have plenty of other products to float them if the PS3 fails.

Years back they had a really rough time thanks to Matsushita's better performance in the electronics market. They have been reporting losses almost every year.

Then we had the Sony BMG rootkit fiasco, exploding batteries, M$ coming out with a console that had a multi-core CPU, when they thought they had an exclusive on it...

If anything, the Blu-Ray getting integrated to the PS3 is a dead give-away.

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If you didn't know, most of the video game consoles cost money to make when they are initially put on the market.

Not true. It all started with the PS2 or PSX. The Dreamcast, GameCube and the Wii didn't make losses (not sure about the Dreamcast). This "lose on console, gain on games" idea is a recent trend. It wasn't present in the 16-bits, 8-bits or older era.

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Well, the Wii didn't, but it uses a processor that is almost the equivalent of an N64, so, we won't count them

I hope that's a joke, because if not, you're badly misinformed...

Radd · 2006-12-31, 08:40

Not really try, Square and Nintendo were, as far as companies go, quite at odds with each other for a while. For the entire life of the N64, and much of the Gamecube/GBA generation. Crystal Chronicles was Square's first "big" return to the Nintendo camp, and it was more of a grudging token, as Nintendo would not let Square develope for the lucrative GBA market unless they also supported the home console. Since then, Square-Enix's support for Nintendo has almost exclusively rested with the GBA, and the much more profitable DS market. The DS is really the big machine right now, outselling home consoles, and still selling out a few years after its original launch over the course of this holiday season.

On that note, saying that the PSP/PS3 are not the right machines for the games Square-Enix wants to make? Well, that's only true so much as that S-E wants to make games for the consoles they stand to make the most profit off of. This is why the DS is seeing so much more love from them than the PSP or the home consoles.

However, at this time I'd say their support for the Wii is still tentative. Early support in the form of a new Crystal Chronicles game, and DQ:Swords show that they want their foot in the door. We can expect to see much more support for the Wii should it prove that it's popularity is not simply a short lived spurt due to new-console hype.

The shift in Square-Enix support, despite not being absolute, is certainly a sign of the times. Developers realize that the PS3 is a risky investment, as it costs a lot to develope for, and the promise of returns isn't nearly as great as the PS2 showed, and will not likely sell as well as the PS2 due mainly to its price. Nintendo and Microsoft both are bending over backwards to make a friendly working environment for developers, while Sony is acting much as Nintendo did when the Big N thought they could do whatever they pleased.

The 360 is already in homes, and largely successful outside of Japan. The Wii is incredibly popular and is currently leading the PS3 in market saturation, not to mention it is incredibly inexpensive to develope for since Nintendo is in no way asking developers to push MGS4 level graphics. The DS trumps both and is outselling the PS2 as well. Developers see where the money is going here, and that is the primary factor which will shape the generation.

Currently we're seeing developers spread out more in expectation of a market shift. If any single console shows a strong lead over the others in the next 12-18 months, expect the gap to widen from there.

Radd · 2006-12-31, 08:46

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Originally Posted by Benoit

Not true. It all started with the PS2 or PSX. The Dreamcast, GameCube and the Wii didn't make losses (not sure about the Dreamcast). This "lose on console, gain on games" idea is a recent trend. It wasn't present in the 16-bits, 8-bits or older era.

The way I understand it, this started with the PSX. Which was how Sony as able to deliver the console a full hundred bills cheaper than the $400 Sega Saturn. Feeling the heat, Sega tried to convince retailers to soak the loss for them. This did not win them brownie points, and the retailers declined the suggestion.

I'd say that was the beginning of the end for Sega's console aspirations, however that started earlier. Past Sega trying to push their unrivaled 2D powerhouse as a 3D machine doing them no favours, the rift between Sega of America and Sega of Japan threw them into the downward spiral that ended with them leaving hardware altogether.

Shift_ · 2006-12-31, 15:25

Here's the problem with sony's PS3:
Overpriced. Lack of games. Other than Blu-ray, it's weaker than the Xbox360 (cpu/gpu/os/memory wise, oh wait that's anything related to gaming performance), Blu-ray uses MPEG-2 which is an ancient codec whereas HD-DVD uses VC-1, on many HT forums HD-DVD has much better Picture quality than Blu-ray does.

As of right now Xbox360 > Wii >>> PS3. There is no arguing the facts that the PS3 is NOT selling. And people can say "wait for the games to come out" but if no one BUYS the system what incentives do the publishers have do produce an exclusive for the system? The answer is none. This is why many 'PS3 Exclusives' are now also going to be moved to the Xbox360.

Lebron · 2006-12-31, 17:14

I'm too lazy to read through, but why are the Japanese hardware sales being posted? Outside of the Nintendo hardware, the rest of those aren't that great. We all know 360 isn't going to take over nothing, so those sales are expected, but yet higher than they use to be. About 2 weeks prior it sold around 50k in tide with Blue Dragons release, but still, I highly doubt they are trying to win Japan over. As long as they can average around 15k a week, then that will be fine. Considering how its selling outside of Japan, that will still enable them to get more Japanese support.

Then again, this is a PS3 thread not 360, this is already gearing up to head into a console war BS thread. We had a 360 thread a while ago, but of course, it turned into a retarded console fanboy war :P

Still I will say this, 06 was one hell of a year. Who would of thought that the 360 and MS would show that they came to fight, and actually deliver some unexpected surprises. Who would of thought the Wii would have such a strong launch, and seem to have alot of non-gamers talking and interested in buying the console. And who would of thought, the PS3, would have such a terrible showing. Let's face it, they no where met the numbers and claims they talked about at the 2 past E3's.

To me coming into next year, Nintendo needs to keep up its pace. They really need to bring in some more 3rd party support, I mean actually good 3rd party support, so they can keep that train going. Get their online mode fully up and running, not just some parts. MS needs to get out those new 360 systems in early '07, with the new chips, to get rid of the overheating issue and enable the price cut. And Mr. Sony, needs to stop thinking they're all high and mighty and that they don't have to worry because they're Sony, due to the fact that they won the last 2 gens. Don't forget Nintendo had that same type of attitude back in the day, and see what happened? :P They need to get rid of the shipping problems, snatch up some good Exclusives, and actually show they have come to fight. Because right now, I'm not getting that vibe. Both Nintendo and MS, have showed that they are, but Sony, is just high up in the clouds.

Yup '07 should be a fun year, so many games, so little time(due to college)

Lebron · 2006-12-31, 17:49

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Originally Posted by kayos

Lol, sorry I was being lazy as well, just grab some data and threw it in.

haha nice :P

Slayerx · 2006-12-31, 20:10

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The shift in Square-Enix support, despite not being absolute, is certainly a sign of the times.

Only real signs i see for certain is that the Wii and DS is best suited for games that are innovative and targeted to an audience of all ages, where as the PS3 and PSP are better suited for games that are generally focus more on looking just really damn good... any signs beyond there are uncertain and FAR too early to make the call... It will be atleast another year before we can make such calls

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This is why many 'PS3 Exclusives' are now also going to be moved to the Xbox360.

Please tell me more... Seriously i haven't heard much about exclusives moving to the 360...
MGS4, Devil May cry, FFXIII, Resitance fall of man, white Knight story, God of war, Heavenly sword... all of them are PS3 exclusives and show absolutly no sign of crossing over to the 360... i think armor core is the only sony exclusive that is cross platforming... heh, funny thing is that there is also ninja gaiden for the xbox being remade for the PS3... not to mention, that the 360, after a year, doesn't have THAT many more good exclusives itself

I also do recall a story i heard on a blog about a game Wardevil... what was interesting about it was that the game was orginally annouced for both PS3 and Xbox 360... However, it has more recently been changed and the release of the 360 version was cancelled... the UK developer picked the risky PS3 over the early successful 360... i can't help but wonder why they picked THAT platform over the other, only to think that they saw something the PS3 could do that the 360 could not... and i can't help but think that this may become the trend in later years...

Papaya · 2006-12-31, 20:13

Virtua Fighter 5 is going to the XBox360. Not that it'll make much of a difference, since SEGA has already stated long ago that they're never adding in online support.

Radd · 2006-12-31, 21:27

Actually, we're two years into the PSP/DS thing. It's pretty easy to see the trends and make correlations with price, portability, and games. We're also a year into the 360, and with the beginning of this generation (starting at least half a year ago) we've seen some major shifts in developer support that fall right along the lines drawn by predictions (some of which have already been proven true) in production costs, market saturation, and profit potential. Coupled with quotes from developers voicing concerns about things such as those, for anyone paying attention none of what is happening is news so much as confirmation.

Note that I make no decisive conclusions about what will happen this generation, I agree that it is far too early for such judgements regarding the home consoles. We can make suppositions based on what we suggestions of what might happen in the coming year, but there's too many variables for anything more than a truckload of "ifs", tying them to what we know as fact, and what we deduce of the coming months. Whatever actually happens in these next 12 months will make the following years more clear.

Lebron · 2007-01-01, 09:23

White Knight Story is being developed by Level 5, but published by Sony. Heavenly Sword, Resistance and God of War, are also published by Sony, so no duh they won't cross over. As for SE, well no duh *knock on wood*, they will give the 360 that new FF MMORPG they're developing and call it a day, which will also be on PS3 and PC.

Seeing how you want to list canceled games, guess I'll contribute a few canned PS3 ones to be fair,
Killing Day -canceled-
Coded Arms Assault -canceled-
Elveon -360/PC only now-
Thesis -360/PC only now-
Alan Wake -360/PC only now-
Bioshock -360/PC only now-
Endless Saga -canceled-
Condemned -canceled-
Black Blade -canceled-
Dark RPG -canceled-
If you really want to look it up, you'll find the reasons why ranged from Unreal 3 engine issues( Japanese devs seem to be having issues with it, due to low support help), hardware issues, and production costs. Also there have been a few 360 games canceled for some of the same reasons, as well, Frame City Killer, Scarface, and The Sopranoes.

In the end, it isn't the hardware that will win developers, if that was the case Xbox would of had all the best 3rd party games, seeing how it was the most powerful, or PSP would be getting more support than DS. So that argument holds no water.

In the end, its the system that which will enable for the biggest profit, meaning who has market lead. As it stands right now 360 is hovering around 8million sold, Wii 3.6million( off to a great start), and PS3 around 1.2million. However, like Radd said, its too early to be calling things. This year, '07, will decide on how things will most likely turn out in the coming years.

But, expect more 3rd party developers to bring their games to multi-platforms. So it's a good thing for actual gamers, I guess maybe bad for console loyalists.

wsheit · 2007-01-02, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Lebron

But, expect more 3rd party developers to bring their games to multi-platforms. So it's a good thing for actual gamers, I guess maybe bad for console loyalists.

You bring a very balanced, healthy perspective to this forum, but I have to disagree on this point. Having more developers go multi-platform is NOT a good thing for gamers. When games are made for multiple platforms, they aren't as well optimized for the individual pieces of hardware they're running on. Even if a game is spectacular on one console, there's a pretty good chance that it ends up being watered down on consoles with different capabilities. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory is a good example.

And when I look at my favorite games on my shelf, I realize that most of them are exclusives (from a variety of consoles).

Lebron · 2007-01-02, 11:29

Yeah, I agree in some way. Maybe I should of refrained my actual statement, maybe not actual gamers, but for those who may not have the luxury of being able to buy all 3 consoles.

For instance since VF5 was brought up, lets say someone really wanted to own the game. They've played it at the arcades and really love it. However, they can not afford to purchase a PS3 for it, since its being out of their price range. Normally they would be out of luck. But now that its coming out on the 360, and lets say they can actually scrape some money to be able to purchase a core 360. So now they can get to enjoy the game in the comforts of home, w/o paying arcade prices or trying to shell out $500+ for a PS3. Pretty much giving every fan of the series a chance to play and own the game. Thats what I was trying to get it.

I think its kind of up in the air with multi-platform games, though. Some games I wouldn't mind going multi, but then there are others I wish would just stay on one console. Not being a fanboy of the console, but of the game. I would rather them focus their efforts on one console. I think its a lot easier for certain genres to go multi-platform, but for others they really need be on one console. Sports, fighting, and *some* shooter games, for instance, actually make the multi-platform transition pretty good. Then there are others like *other* shooters, RPGs, Action Adventure, etc, that wouldn't make that transition so well, and would be better if they stayed on one console. Also, glad you pointed out SC4 DA, thats one franchise I wish they just focus on with one console. Which is why I'm glad SC5, will be exclusive to one console, plus a PC version. I could care less if it was on 360, or PS3, just as long as it's on one. So they can focus the game for that particular hardware, and design it to that hardwares strengths.

Also, I hate downgraded ports with a passion. If they ever have to dumb down a game in order to bring it out on to another platform, then they might as well not even bother. It's mostly the lazy developers fault, not the actual hardware. Take Farcry for instance, the PC version still remains one of the best FPS ever, and easily one of my favorites. However, the ports they released on the consoles, were freaking terrible and should of never been released in the first place if they were going to half-ass them like that. Those were a major slap in the face to the original.

So yea like I said, its kind of a mix bag with me with multi-platforms. Guess I should of explained that better.

Cloud.Final.Fantasy · 2007-01-03, 01:20

Naww..I Played it in a Future shop..Still Has Rumble..! Which is pretty Good..I guess..

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Chaos_Shinigami Chaos Bringer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bahrain	Ps 3 Hiya Guys I haven't bought ps 3 cuz it costs 1164$ in my country and its way tooo expensive but i dunno anything special about it lol cuz none of my frnds have it and its like complete mystery to me about how it works and etc

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Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	it runs on gremlins Its great, as long as you don't feed it or let it touch water, or it will melt your disc, and give you zero profit __________________

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Onizuka-GTO Holy Beast ~Wuff!~ Scanlator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 41	unfortunately for Sony, it isn't making "tenfold" on it's other products. To say Sony financial future is entirely depending on the success of the PS3 is a lie, but to say it isn't is equally deceptive. Sony is placing a big stake on the PS3, if the ps3 fails, Sony is going to suffer some very harsh and lean times, even now, there are debates that even if the ps3 take back the market share, Soy is still due for a hard financial future, due to the increase competition in all its core markets and the consequences of the battery recall fiasco. :/ you have to pity them in some sense, because Sony really did mess up the PR for the ps3, which in retrospect to it's other problem isn't so bad, but if you take that in account, Sony won't remember 2006 as a happy memory.... __________________

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Radd Just Married, Oct. 28th! Join Date: May 2003 Age: 45	Not really try, Square and Nintendo were, as far as companies go, quite at odds with each other for a while. For the entire life of the N64, and much of the Gamecube/GBA generation. Crystal Chronicles was Square's first "big" return to the Nintendo camp, and it was more of a grudging token, as Nintendo would not let Square develope for the lucrative GBA market unless they also supported the home console. Since then, Square-Enix's support for Nintendo has almost exclusively rested with the GBA, and the much more profitable DS market. The DS is really the big machine right now, outselling home consoles, and still selling out a few years after its original launch over the course of this holiday season. On that note, saying that the PSP/PS3 are not the right machines for the games Square-Enix wants to make? Well, that's only true so much as that S-E wants to make games for the consoles they stand to make the most profit off of. This is why the DS is seeing so much more love from them than the PSP or the home consoles. However, at this time I'd say their support for the Wii is still tentative. Early support in the form of a new Crystal Chronicles game, and DQ:Swords show that they want their foot in the door. We can expect to see much more support for the Wii should it prove that it's popularity is not simply a short lived spurt due to new-console hype. The shift in Square-Enix support, despite not being absolute, is certainly a sign of the times. Developers realize that the PS3 is a risky investment, as it costs a lot to develope for, and the promise of returns isn't nearly as great as the PS2 showed, and will not likely sell as well as the PS2 due mainly to its price. Nintendo and Microsoft both are bending over backwards to make a friendly working environment for developers, while Sony is acting much as Nintendo did when the Big N thought they could do whatever they pleased. The 360 is already in homes, and largely successful outside of Japan. The Wii is incredibly popular and is currently leading the PS3 in market saturation, not to mention it is incredibly inexpensive to develope for since Nintendo is in no way asking developers to push MGS4 level graphics. The DS trumps both and is outselling the PS2 as well. Developers see where the money is going here, and that is the primary factor which will shape the generation. Currently we're seeing developers spread out more in expectation of a market shift. If any single console shows a strong lead over the others in the next 12-18 months, expect the gap to widen from there. __________________

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Lebron I hear voices Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 37	I'm too lazy to read through, but why are the Japanese hardware sales being posted? Outside of the Nintendo hardware, the rest of those aren't that great. We all know 360 isn't going to take over nothing, so those sales are expected, but yet higher than they use to be. About 2 weeks prior it sold around 50k in tide with Blue Dragons release, but still, I highly doubt they are trying to win Japan over. As long as they can average around 15k a week, then that will be fine. Considering how its selling outside of Japan, that will still enable them to get more Japanese support. Then again, this is a PS3 thread not 360, this is already gearing up to head into a console war BS thread. We had a 360 thread a while ago, but of course, it turned into a retarded console fanboy war :P Still I will say this, 06 was one hell of a year. Who would of thought that the 360 and MS would show that they came to fight, and actually deliver some unexpected surprises. Who would of thought the Wii would have such a strong launch, and seem to have alot of non-gamers talking and interested in buying the console. And who would of thought, the PS3, would have such a terrible showing. Let's face it, they no where met the numbers and claims they talked about at the 2 past E3's. To me coming into next year, Nintendo needs to keep up its pace. They really need to bring in some more 3rd party support, I mean actually good 3rd party support, so they can keep that train going. Get their online mode fully up and running, not just some parts. MS needs to get out those new 360 systems in early '07, with the new chips, to get rid of the overheating issue and enable the price cut. And Mr. Sony, needs to stop thinking they're all high and mighty and that they don't have to worry because they're Sony, due to the fact that they won the last 2 gens. Don't forget Nintendo had that same type of attitude back in the day, and see what happened? :P They need to get rid of the shipping problems, snatch up some good Exclusives, and actually show they have come to fight. Because right now, I'm not getting that vibe. Both Nintendo and MS, have showed that they are, but Sony, is just high up in the clouds. Yup '07 should be a fun year, so many games, so little time(due to college) Last edited by Lebron; 2006-12-31 at 17:31.

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Ansa Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Honestly I wouldn't expect a price drop or deal from Sony any time soon, they are LOSING MONEY for each PS3 that's sold, so right now until it costs a heck of a lot less for it to be made (to the point where they actually make money each time it's sold) I wouldn't count on a price drop. Not to mention that Sony is really dependent on the PS3's success as a company in general, this last year they've lost a crapload of money thanks to the battery recall, not to mention lawsuits with it's controller and other things, honestly PS3 may very well kill Sony... or perhaps some company would buy Sony out... Either way though, I highly doubt that the PS3 will end up getting Sony out of trouble...

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Shift_ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Down Under	Here's the problem with sony's PS3: Overpriced. Lack of games. Other than Blu-ray, it's weaker than the Xbox360 (cpu/gpu/os/memory wise, oh wait that's anything related to gaming performance), Blu-ray uses MPEG-2 which is an ancient codec whereas HD-DVD uses VC-1, on many HT forums HD-DVD has much better Picture quality than Blu-ray does. As of right now Xbox360 > Wii >>> PS3. There is no arguing the facts that the PS3 is NOT selling. And people can say "wait for the games to come out" but if no one BUYS the system what incentives do the publishers have do produce an exclusive for the system? The answer is none. This is why many 'PS3 Exclusives' are now also going to be moved to the Xbox360.

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Papaya Sup Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Age: 36	Virtua Fighter 5 is going to the XBox360. Not that it'll make much of a difference, since SEGA has already stated long ago that they're never adding in online support.

2006-12-31, 21:27	Link #276
Radd Just Married, Oct. 28th! Join Date: May 2003 Age: 45	Actually, we're two years into the PSP/DS thing. It's pretty easy to see the trends and make correlations with price, portability, and games. We're also a year into the 360, and with the beginning of this generation (starting at least half a year ago) we've seen some major shifts in developer support that fall right along the lines drawn by predictions (some of which have already been proven true) in production costs, market saturation, and profit potential. Coupled with quotes from developers voicing concerns about things such as those, for anyone paying attention none of what is happening is news so much as confirmation. Note that I make no decisive conclusions about what will happen this generation, I agree that it is far too early for such judgements regarding the home consoles. We can make suppositions based on what we suggestions of what might happen in the coming year, but there's too many variables for anything more than a truckload of "ifs", tying them to what we know as fact, and what we deduce of the coming months. Whatever actually happens in these next 12 months will make the following years more clear. __________________

2007-01-01, 09:23	Link #277
Lebron I hear voices Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 37	White Knight Story is being developed by Level 5, but published by Sony. Heavenly Sword, Resistance and God of War, are also published by Sony, so no duh they won't cross over. As for SE, well no duh knock on wood, they will give the 360 that new FF MMORPG they're developing and call it a day, which will also be on PS3 and PC. Seeing how you want to list canceled games, guess I'll contribute a few canned PS3 ones to be fair, Killing Day -canceled- Coded Arms Assault -canceled- Elveon -360/PC only now- Thesis -360/PC only now- Alan Wake -360/PC only now- Bioshock -360/PC only now- Endless Saga -canceled- Condemned -canceled- Black Blade -canceled- Dark RPG -canceled- If you really want to look it up, you'll find the reasons why ranged from Unreal 3 engine issues( Japanese devs seem to be having issues with it, due to low support help), hardware issues, and production costs. Also there have been a few 360 games canceled for some of the same reasons, as well, Frame City Killer, Scarface, and The Sopranoes. In the end, it isn't the hardware that will win developers, if that was the case Xbox would of had all the best 3rd party games, seeing how it was the most powerful, or PSP would be getting more support than DS. So that argument holds no water. In the end, its the system that which will enable for the biggest profit, meaning who has market lead. As it stands right now 360 is hovering around 8million sold, Wii 3.6million( off to a great start), and PS3 around 1.2million. However, like Radd said, its too early to be calling things. This year, '07, will decide on how things will most likely turn out in the coming years. But, expect more 3rd party developers to bring their games to multi-platforms. So it's a good thing for actual gamers, I guess maybe bad for console loyalists.

2007-01-02, 11:29	Link #279
Lebron I hear voices Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 37	Yeah, I agree in some way. Maybe I should of refrained my actual statement, maybe not actual gamers, but for those who may not have the luxury of being able to buy all 3 consoles. For instance since VF5 was brought up, lets say someone really wanted to own the game. They've played it at the arcades and really love it. However, they can not afford to purchase a PS3 for it, since its being out of their price range. Normally they would be out of luck. But now that its coming out on the 360, and lets say they can actually scrape some money to be able to purchase a core 360. So now they can get to enjoy the game in the comforts of home, w/o paying arcade prices or trying to shell out $500+ for a PS3. Pretty much giving every fan of the series a chance to play and own the game. Thats what I was trying to get it. I think its kind of up in the air with multi-platform games, though. Some games I wouldn't mind going multi, but then there are others I wish would just stay on one console. Not being a fanboy of the console, but of the game. I would rather them focus their efforts on one console. I think its a lot easier for certain genres to go multi-platform, but for others they really need be on one console. Sports, fighting, and some shooter games, for instance, actually make the multi-platform transition pretty good. Then there are others like other shooters, RPGs, Action Adventure, etc, that wouldn't make that transition so well, and would be better if they stayed on one console. Also, glad you pointed out SC4 DA, thats one franchise I wish they just focus on with one console. Which is why I'm glad SC5, will be exclusive to one console, plus a PC version. I could care less if it was on 360, or PS3, just as long as it's on one. So they can focus the game for that particular hardware, and design it to that hardwares strengths. Also, I hate downgraded ports with a passion. If they ever have to dumb down a game in order to bring it out on to another platform, then they might as well not even bother. It's mostly the lazy developers fault, not the actual hardware. Take Farcry for instance, the PC version still remains one of the best FPS ever, and easily one of my favorites. However, the ports they released on the consoles, were freaking terrible and should of never been released in the first place if they were going to half-ass them like that. Those were a major slap in the face to the original. So yea like I said, its kind of a mix bag with me with multi-platforms. Guess I should of explained that better. Last edited by Lebron; 2007-01-02 at 11:41.

2007-01-03, 01:20	Link #280
Cloud.Final.Fantasy Call me Cloud..Mr. Cloud. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bankhead, Atlanta, Georgia	Naww..I Played it in a Future shop..Still Has Rumble..! Which is pretty Good..I guess..