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Old 2007-02-15, 04:12   Link #1001
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Here are my thoughts of Vol 7 and Melancholy of Mikuru:

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Old 2007-02-15, 04:49   Link #1002
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Old 2007-02-15, 10:52   Link #1003
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Old 2007-02-15, 10:58   Link #1004
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Old 2007-02-15, 13:23   Link #1005
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Heh, this topic is quickly becoming useless to those who haven't read the translations...
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Old 2007-02-15, 19:46   Link #1006
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Old 2007-02-15, 22:17   Link #1007
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Old 2007-02-15, 23:02   Link #1008
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Old 2007-02-16, 13:46   Link #1009
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Well, that was a great belated Valentine's gift!. I enjoyed it a lot.

Do we need to keep the spoilers?

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Old 2007-02-16, 14:51   Link #1010
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I know it’s not worth much, but just want to add my thanks for all the hard work from the translating team! You guys should add a ‘paypal donate’ button to the site (or better yet, a ‘I’ll give you $10 when you finish translating chapter x’ button). Just so those of us desperate for more story can add a little more… ‘incentive’.

Also have to say, Tanigawa Nagaru is a freaking genius. Just when you think he’s making it up as he goes along, you find some passage that just ties it all together. Each story by itself is great. But as each arc unfolds it keeps building on past events, and gets better and better. I constantly laugh out loud while reading, even though I’m sure a lot of the subtle humor gets lost in translation between Japanese - Chinese - English (no knock on the translating team. When I was watching a Haruhi video with my brother, he kept laughing at the subtle language jokes in the Japanese narrative, that didn’t carry over into the English subtitles). Can’t wait for volume 9.

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Old 2007-02-16, 17:00   Link #1011
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I agree with the praise for Tanigawa Nagaru. I'm amazed with how he can interweave all these seemingly disjunct stories into something brilliantly coherent. KyoAni did a good job simulating this effect with the episode shuffle.
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Old 2007-02-16, 18:08   Link #1012
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KyoAni did a good job simulating this effect with the episode shuffle.
Even more impressive to me, is that they 'tweaked' the original material to make it even better. For example, in the novel, Kyon is a willing participant in the computer stealing incident, as Haruhi tells him what's going to happen to Mikuru ahead of time (kind of out of character). Also in lone island syndrome (novel), Itsuki basically explains the whole mystery right at the beginning, instead of Haruhi & Kyon figuring it out. KyoAni is really at the top of their game these days. Kind of spoils me for other anime.
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Old 2007-02-16, 19:19   Link #1013
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On a side note, Koizumi's assertion in the anime about Kyon being a normal person might also well fall foul of his philosophizing of Haruhi's powers and creation of the world. Basically, he says that there's no proof (by definition) that the world was not created three years ago by Haruhi, because all the evidence can be altered or fabricated.

Similarly, there's no real proof that Kyon is a normal person, if he does have special powers, but believes himself to be normal.
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Old 2007-02-16, 19:55   Link #1014
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On a side note, Koizumi's assertion in the anime about Kyon being a normal person might also well fall foul of his philosophizing of Haruhi's powers and creation of the world. Basically, he says that there's no proof (by definition) that the world was not created three years ago by Haruhi, because all the evidence can be altered or fabricated.

Similarly, there's no real proof that Kyon is a normal person, if he does have special powers, but believes himself to be normal.
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Old 2007-02-16, 22:52   Link #1015
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I know it’s not worth much, but just want to add my thanks for all the hard work from the translating team! You guys should add a ‘paypal donate’ button to the site (or better yet, a ‘I’ll give you $10 when you finish translating chapter x’ button). Just so those of us desperate for more story can add a little more… ‘incentive’.

Also have to say, Tanigawa Nagaru is a freaking genius. Just when you think he’s making it up as he goes along, you find some passage that just ties it all together. Each story by itself is great. But as each arc unfolds it keeps building on past events, and gets better and better. I constantly laugh out loud while reading, even though I’m sure a lot of the subtle humor gets lost in translation between Japanese - Chinese - English (no knock on the translating team. When I was watching a Haruhi video with my brother, he kept laughing at the subtle language jokes in the Japanese narrative, that didn’t carry over into the English subtitles). Can’t wait for volume 9.
Thanks a lot, but money + translation usually = copyright infringement, which tends to lead to lawsuits

Besides, most of us are just doing this in our free time to show our love for Haruhi
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Old 2007-02-16, 23:27   Link #1016
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Old 2007-02-17, 03:10   Link #1017
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Old 2007-02-17, 03:27   Link #1018
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One thing we all need to realise... There are things time travellers do, and then there are things time travellers don't do. You can believe Kyon to be the real god all you like, even if I think it's a completely groundless idea. What I don't believe is that somehow Kyon need to be the god in order to be important.

Haruhi is in love with Kyon. This we know. The time travellers would also know this.

The time travellers, however, can't want to harm Kyon because they are not here to observe Haruhi. The diety-like Galactic Existences etc can afford to kill Kyon if they want to, because their existence isn't linked to Kyon's survival. But unless Kyon is suppose to be killed in their own time line, the time travellers risk annialating themselves in acting this drastically.

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Old 2007-02-17, 05:25   Link #1019
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Thanks so much to all for discussing this so I can enjoy reading and thinking about the novels even when there's nothing more to read until the next update. I may edit this post with more to say tomorrow actually--there's one or two passages I think are worthy of discussion, in relation to Kyonism or Kyon being the slider.

Edit: Found it. Elaborating on what someone mentioned earlier, this entire passage seems to hint at "Kyonism", and the last few words directly muse upon the idea:
Spoiler for Volume 7 (Intrigues) Chapter 7:

And I looked all over for the section relevant to sliders but I couldn't find it--in one of the volumes, Koizumi says he has trouble making friends with sliders, or something very close to that.

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Old 2007-02-17, 11:21   Link #1020
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