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Old 2007-03-06, 20:07   Link #961
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Old 2007-03-06, 21:29   Link #962
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Old 2007-03-06, 21:57   Link #963
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Old 2007-03-06, 22:23   Link #964
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Kurumi and Saki will save them all

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Old 2007-03-06, 22:36   Link #965
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Old 2007-03-06, 22:39   Link #966
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Old 2007-03-07, 04:11   Link #967
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what is that last scene in the long preview: Kuu with a wedding vail on the head or something?
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Old 2007-03-07, 04:35   Link #968
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Old 2007-03-07, 09:56   Link #969
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Kurumi and Saki will save them all

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You know, when Kyoshiro told Kuu about the incidents regarding his brother and AAs, I though this series was far more related to Steel Angel Kurumi than to Kannazuki no Miko.

Now, with the recent developments, I realize this show could be (and maybe it is) a direct sequel to SAK.

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Old 2007-03-07, 12:35   Link #970
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Old 2007-03-08, 01:08   Link #971
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So basically you want him to throw himself in front of a bus or do some other similar dangerous act of self-sacrifice in order to save someone before he redeems himself.
I don't think that's what Kazu-kun meant. I think he meant "save someone ELSE ASIDE from Kuu to redeem himself." There's a difference between self-sacrification and rescue, you know. (Or perhaps it was worded bad. )

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What the heck has a viewers ability to sympathize with a character has to do with him being a good/bad guy or not ?
Depending on the person's views, A LOT. Call me odd, but always sypmathize with the good guys. I feel BAD for the person who mourns a partner's passing - which is extremely rare for 'the bad guys'. I sympathize with the girl in love with a guy who doesn't love her back, but is still able to give up everything for him - which is rare for 'the bad guys'. Normally; the girl would want to force the buy to fall in love with her, of course, if the's a 'bad girl'.

I can't sympathize with the girl who forces her rule on everyone. I can't feel bad for the guy who views his partner's death as a 'casuality' and nothing more. I just can't. Again, call me odd, but it's just me.
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Old 2007-03-08, 01:39   Link #972
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Old 2007-03-08, 02:07   Link #973
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Depending on the person's views, A LOT. Call me odd, but always sypmathize with the good guys. I feel BAD for the person who mourns a partner's passing - which is extremely rare for 'the bad guys'. I sympathize with the girl in love with a guy who doesn't love her back, but is still able to give up everything for him - which is rare for 'the bad guys'. Normally; the girl would want to force the buy to fall in love with her, of course, if the's a 'bad girl'.

I can't sympathize with the girl who forces her rule on everyone. I can't feel bad for the guy who views his partner's death as a 'casuality' and nothing more. I just can't. Again, call me odd, but it's just me.
I understand what you are saying, but that was not exactly my point Of course, most of the time i sympathize with "the good Guys"and i don't like "the bad guys", but that is not exclusively true for all occasions. Also, just because a person is not a saint and behaves in a questionable manner does not make him a "bad guy" out right. And deducting whether the guy is good or bad based on my ability to sympathize with him/her wouldn't make for a very accurate judgment

Lets take Fate from Nanoha series.
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The situation with Kyoshiro is similar to a degree(basing his actions in order to carry out the "will" of his closest family member). And while i am not sympathizing with him out right, calling him a bad guy is a streeeeeetch.

Again - concluding that a character is "bad" simply because i don't sympathize with him is not very objective, because that would make Kira(GS/GSD) the biggest bastard in the universe, because my grandest wish was for him to die.
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Old 2007-03-08, 02:30   Link #974
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I understand what you are saying, but that was not exactly my point Of course, most of the time i sympathize with "the good Guys"and i don't like "the bad guys", but that is not exclusively true for all occasions. Also, just because a person is not a saint and behaves in a questionable manner does not make him a "bad guy" out right. And deducting whether the guy is good or bad based on my ability to sympathize with him/her wouldn't make for a very accurate judgment

Lets take Fate from Nanoha series.
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The situation with Kyoshiro is similar to a degree(basing his actions in order to carry out the "will" of his closest family member). And while i am not sympathizing with him out right, calling him a bad guy is a streeeeeetch.

Again - concluding that a character is "bad" simply because i don't sympathize with him is not very objective, because that would make Kira(GS/GSD) the biggest bastard in the universe, because my grandest wish was for him to die.
Well, see, I was saying more over it's makes them a bad guy to that person. I don't mean bad guy - bad guy in this case, more like bad character. (Before I was going on and on about how I sympathize with certain characters.) To them, they're the antagonist of the show. It depends their own personal views. For example, a lot of people (Myself included) would drop this show if Kaon and Himiko were not in it. I'm not interested in Kuu or Kyoshiro, or Taroutte or anyone else prsent in the cast. Setsuna? Yes. But I'd get along fine with fanfiction. If Kaon and Himiko were not present, this series just wouldn't be worth it for me.

In the end, what I was tryin' to say was - depending on the person, they'll either find the character to be a bad guy or a good guy. The cases of Fate and Kyoshiro are hard to classify - since well, yes, they need to be punished for the bad deeds they did. It's a bad deed. It's needed to be punished. There's no excuse for wanting to kill someone (Referring to Kyoshiro). The only way for him to redeem himself is to try to save the AAs now and prove his view has changed. His heart was in the right place, and maybe it's the just sadist in me, but when someone does like that, I'd rather like to see a nice dose of justice either way.
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The situation with Kyoshiro is similar to a degree(basing his actions in order to carry out the "will" of his closest family member). And while i am not sympathizing with him out right, calling him a bad guy is a streeeeeetch.
but this is all after kazuya showed up...i bet that before kazuya and his badass attitude showed up 99% of people here were actually starting to dislike kyoshiro for the way he thinks ~ ofc now knowing the situation our opinions have changed (which is what the writers wanted all along ~ dam i dont like playing into someone else's hand )

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Old 2007-03-08, 15:02   Link #979
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and who are they? taking a guess i bet its not characters from this series XD
Both Touga and Akio are from the animanga series Revolutionary Girl Utena, which the translation of Shoujo Kakumei Utena. Touga is a playboy with a dramatic backflare. A pretty boy who's very popular with the girls. Akio is the same - though he is a bit more ... 'crazy'? XD
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Old 2007-03-08, 16:38   Link #980
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Also, Touga has bright red hair like Kazuya. Akio/Dios has purply-white hair. Touga and Akio both pretended to be Utena's prince, but Dios is the real one (confusing I know). They're both really dramatic, complete with all the hilarious poses.
Saionji's personality is like Kyoshiro's, but he's got long, wavy green hair.

Any guesses for the ending? There are only three episodes to wrap everything up, plus at least one episode of plain Kyoshiro angst.

On the main website, there are details for the third DVD special, which is coming out in June. It's Kuu's observation logbook on Setsuna...and it shows how she saw how kindly Kyoshiro was treating Kuu, so she imitated.
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