Lucky Star (Generic Discussion thread)

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by mukansa monkey

BTW Kaioshin-kun, Lucky Star *is* the greatest comedy ever written. You just haven't come out of the closet enough with your loli-moeness to admit it yet. And yer OCD? That explains a few of your odder posts.
:: makes a note to send Kaioshin a case of soap::

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Be that as it may, I still wouldn't deny that I prefer western comedy over anime style comedy. The best comedy ever written for me is something I watch daily. It's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, blending raw political humour with a clever satire on the gimmicks of a primetime news program.

[Vexx]

Jon Stewart --- the only real reason to have cable

@the OP: yeah, the time signature changes really appealed to me as well (music geek, highschool and college band) ... there's just something marvelous about the shift from beat "rap" to the harmonic chorus.

[Ascaloth]

Originally Posted by dKiWi

Especially for people like me hu does a dumb security job (MINDEF MP) and spends most of my time sleeping.

....Wow, small world. That was the job I was doing until last December.

So, are you "outside" or "inside"? You know what I mean. And give me the answer by PM, you know what we do is pretty classified stuff.

And....just a piece of advice, try to avoid mentioning it in the future. Again, "classified", you know what I mean?

Originally Posted by mukansa monkey

In the first episode, the character Miyuki is introduced as a supremely cute-girl moe character. However, the specific details of what makes her moe are not only laid down with cold precision, she's then openly made fun of. So a fan of such moe is going to go Oooh! And then go Man, she's kind of lame for such a cute girl... but wait, when characters do lame stuff like that I think they're cute... what does that say about me? The trouble is that if your first reaction is "What a ditz", you're never going to get the rest of the chain of thought and the dramatic tension that it leads to.

...pal, you just left me feeling VERY depressed about myself.

Yep, that's right. Knew a girl in my schooling days who could rival Ayu in loli-ness, very much a ditz to boot, used to think she was cute then, but now I'm not so sure....

[dKiWi]

Originally Posted by Ascaloth

....Wow, small world. That was the job I was doing until last December.

So, are you "outside" or "inside"? You know what I mean. And give me the answer by PM, you know what we do is pretty classified stuff.

I am "outside". Wanted to say more but yeah as you said our job is classified. Too much stress for too little pay. Luckily we've got Lucky Star. In fact I shoudn't even have put that little detail abt my job in.

Originally Posted by Telliamed

I thought it was just about food. And I thought it was humorous. I've even had conversations like that in real life. And we weren't thinking anything vulgar, at least not until someone with his mind in the gutter makes the suggestion. Then we just start laughing at him for his H-ness.

Lol I am military, and I've been through shit like 2 weeks confinement from civilian pleasures. Yes, no girls, and I've seen some soldiers resort to some really disgusting acts in the barracks toilets (unfortunately. It was a WTF moment) which I have not engaged in. If u think my mind is in the gutter, think again.

The sexual reference I have pointed out is NOTHING. NOTHING damnit. And I do believe alot of people have noticed it but just declined to point out. In fact I am curious. What is the "gui gui" thing? Coz yea due to re-watching alot I do watch the works of numerous fansub groups lol.

[Jiji]

The "gui-gui" thing is something called "gitaigo" in Japanese. The Japanese language has TONS of words for things that are basically sound effect words. English has them too, but I've a suspicion that we have less. Words like "bam" "pop" or the like are what we're talking about here. There's a great guide at this site.

I'm glad you cleared up what level of security you're talking about (military), because at first, I was thinking "Wal-Mart? Classified? Give me a break..." :P

[dKiWi]

oh my. Push and pull isn't very accurate a.f.k. My oh my I think I fully understand now haha... thanks man!

Eating ice-cream cones will never be the same again.

can't wait for episode 4

[Risaa]

Originally Posted by Ueda

The "gui-gui" thing is something called "gitaigo" in Japanese. The Japanese language has TONS of words for things that are basically sound effect words. English has them too, but I've a suspicion that we have less. Words like "bam" "pop" or the like are what we're talking about here. There's a great guide at this site.

I have a 220 page book on Japanese onomatopoeia, not counting the index and bibliography. It's pretty interesting and there's just so much to learn about it - it's true, Japanese has soooo many onomatopoetic words. Onomatopoeia is used more often in daily speech in Japanese than in English, as well (not surprising considering Japanese has so many more than English), so it's very worthwhile to learn as many *ono* words as you can if you want to learn Japanese, IMO, whereas I would say it's not so important to learn many English *ono* words if you were learning English (but if course it's always nice to know stuff like that when learning another language).

Originally Posted by dKiWi

oh my. Push and pull isn't very accurate a.f.k. My oh my I think I fully understand now haha... thanks man!

Eating ice-cream cones will never be the same again.

I didn't understand how this was ecchi until I read "push and pull". It makes me *sad* because I don't think it's really a perverted thing to do at all - I've always shoved the ice cream down into the cone with my tongue because I also hate eating plain cone. But now, seeing as how such an innocent act is being presented naughtily, I hesitate to eat anymore ice cream cones.

..Aw, to heck with that. ::runs off to buy ice cream and cones::

[Seko]

I found a Lucky*Star fandub on youtube, ALREADY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDPZDk6HCI

I'm not sure what to think. I really like Akira's voice but it seems kinda unrealistic for an ENGLISH dub at times.
Shiraishi... I half like and half don't like. I dunno.

What do you guys think?

[FatPianoBoy]

Hmm... Akira isn't quite genki enough when she should be. I like the voice, but the girl seemed like she lost interest really quick. Also, this may be the first time I've accused an American voice for not being as gutteral and sarcastic as the Japanese.
Minoru is supposed to soud nervous, not bored.

I liked the voices, but the acting and execution was about as good as your standard commercial dub (read: not that great).

[WanderingKnight]

I have a 220 page book on Japanese onomatopoeia, not counting the index and bibliography. It's pretty interesting and there's just so much to learn about it - it's true, Japanese has soooo many onomatopoetic words. Onomatopoeia is used more often in daily speech in Japanese than in English

Very true, but there's another gist to it: Japanese onomatopoeias don't sound rude. Most can be used in a formal context and you wouldn't get any eyebrow raise. On contrast, in most western languages, using an onomatopoeia like "zap", "boom", etc can be found to be terribly out of place in a formal context.

[Seko]

Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

Hmm... Akira isn't quite genki enough when she should be. I like the voice, but the girl seemed like she lost interest really quick. Also, this may be the first time I've accused an American voice for not being as gutteral and sarcastic as the Japanese.
Minoru is supposed to soud nervous, not bored.

I liked the voices, but the acting and execution was about as good as your standard commercial dub (read: not that great).

Nervous! That's the word I was looking for. God I had a total brain fart so I just used the word "bored". I'm such an idiot. Forgive me.

But I think you really hit the nail on the head with your thoughts.

[Telliamed]

Originally Posted by Risaa

I didn't understand how this was ecchi until I read "push and pull". It makes me *sad* because I don't think it's really a perverted thing to do at all - I've always shoved the ice cream down into the cone with my tongue because I also hate eating plain cone. But now, seeing as how such an innocent act is being presented naughtily, I hesitate to eat anymore ice cream cones.

..Aw, to heck with that. ::runs off to buy ice cream and cones::

I'm with you, Risaa. It's not that I didn't consider how the food conversation could be perverted. Just when the idea occurred to me, I instantly rejected it as obscene and unnecessary. I'm enjoying L*S just fine without having to turn everything into a sex joke. And I doubt that that is what the writers really intend it to be.

Not that they aren't making some off-color jokes. Konata playing eroga and teasing Miyuki about her moeness. It's not exploitative, though.

And I know better than to describe the way I used to eat ice cream cones. Certain people here would get totally the wrong idea. It was a trick to get around not being able to eat all the ice cream before it melted. Nowadays, of course, I just eat normally since melting isn't a problem. But back then it was a cute and clever thing I and my brother and sister all did. And they've taught the trick to their children. That someone would be able to make a crude innuendo out of it doesn't escape me, and he may think himself clever for doing so. I just think it's tasteless and unimpressive.

[Samatarou]

The way we used to eat ice cream cornets as kids was to bite off the small end and suck the icecream down into the cone and out the bottom, so it emerges like toohpaste from the hole. (You may have to "guigui" the icecream down a bit first from the top to seal any air gaps to achieve suction.)

[Jiji]

Originally Posted by Telliamed

I'm with you, Risaa. It's not that I didn't consider how the food conversation could be perverted. Just when the idea occurred to me, I instantly rejected it as obscene and unnecessary. I'm enjoying L*S just fine without having to turn everything into a sex joke. And I doubt that that is what the writers really intend it to be.

Not that they aren't making some off-color jokes. Konata playing eroga and teasing Miyuki about her moeness. It's not exploitative, though.

And I know better than to describe the way I used to eat ice cream cones. Certain people here would get totally the wrong idea. It was a trick to get around not being able to eat all the ice cream before it melted. Nowadays, of course, I just eat normally since melting isn't a problem. But back then it was a cute and clever thing I and my brother and sister all did. And they've taught the trick to their children. That someone would be able to make a crude innuendo out of it doesn't escape me, and he may think himself clever for doing so. I just think it's tasteless and unimpressive.

Then for Gods' sake, don't ever read or watch Shakespeare. Or Chaucer (especially the Miller's Tale). Or Milton. Or...well, don't read anything.

[Kinny Riddle]

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/info.html

Director Yamada Yutaka would be replaced by Takeda Yasuhiro from episode 5 onwards.

TVアニメーション作品「らき☆すた」監督交代のお知らせ
「らき☆すた」監督の山本寛は、監督において、まだ、その域に達していないと弊社は判断し、交代いたしまし た。

　放送第５話から新監督武本康弘のもとスタッフ一丸となって作品制作をしていきます。
引き続きよろしくお願いいたします。

「監督において、まだ、その域に達していないと弊社は判断し」 Just this line alone says as Yamamoto is still rather not up to it as a director, so Kyo-Ani would be replacing him with the more experienced Takeda, the director of FMP: Fumoffu and FMP: The Second Raid.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AD%...BA%B7%E5%BC%98

Edit: I typed the wrong Yamamoto, my bad.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/info.html

Director Yamada Hiroshi would be replaced by Takeda Yasuhiro from episode 5 onwards.

From what I'm gathering on the babelfish translation it had to do with job performance. Kyoto Animation the Immortal has fallen on it's sword. Obviously the guy has screwed up somewhere in order for him to be replaced. You know what though, it could happen to anyone and this proves that the company is not perfect like some seem to think, there is always room for improvement.

[Nemo_N]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

「監督において、まだ、その域に達していないと弊社は判断し」 Just this line alone says as Yamamoto is still rather not up to it as a director, so Kyo-Ani would be replacing him with the more experienced Takeda, the director of FMP: Fumoffu and FMP: The Second Raid.

We can only speculate on the specifics, but could it be the "jumping around"? Moving from one scene to another so suddenly? (Again, just speculation).

I suppose Takeda's direction will show what they didn't like about Yamamoto.

Well, at least having FMP in his belt is quite reassuring.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/info.html

Director Yamada Hiroshi would be replaced by Takeda Yasuhiro from episode 5 onwards.

「監督において、まだ、その域に達していないと弊社は判断し」 Just this line alone says as Yamamoto is still rather not up to it as a director, so Kyo-Ani would be replacing him with the more experienced Takeda, the director of FMP: Fumoffu and FMP: The Second Raid.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AD%...BA%B7%E5%BC%98

Oooo, isn't that a little harsh? I mean, Yamamoto-san wasn't doing a bad job. Lucky Star was probably his best chance to learn how to be a Director, as the stakes are comparatively low compared to KyoAni's other works.

Did they give a detailed explanation as to why they are replacing him? Or are they going to save his face and keep mum about it?

Cheers.

[Nemo_N]

Originally Posted by Skane

Oooo, isn't that a little harsh? I mean, Yamamoto-san wasn't doing a bad job.

Yeah. It's not like he got a producer fired.

(Lame joke, I know. orz)

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Skane

Oooo, isn't that a little harsh? I mean, Yamamoto-san wasn't doing a bad job. Lucky Star was probably his best chance to learn how to be a Director, as the stakes are comparatively low compared to KyoAni's other works.

Did they give a detailed explanation as to why they are replacing him? Or are they going to save his face and keep mum about it?

Cheers.

They said they felt he had "Reached His Limits" and that is about it. It's your usual corporate speak for "Your Fired and We're not telling you why". Why they need to humiliate the guy by posting it on the web, however I don't know. Like I said, the company could use a little tact when making public ads and announcements.

The way you should do it is with a public appearance and a statement to the degree that "The Company and Mr. Yamamoto have mutually agreed that Mr. Yamamoto is in need of relief from his hard work and effort as a valuable member of this company. As such he will be stepping down from the position of director to spend time with his family" *Handshake, Smile for the camera, maybe wave a little, thank each other, and then go inside*