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Old 2007-04-25, 09:33   Link #81
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I've watched 1 and 2, and to me, its not that bad. I mean really, I've seen much worse than this.
Now then: (prepares for the flames)
About Kiriya: to me, he seems kinda flat, like hes just going along for the ride.
If you would say that Souma is brash and brainless, then I would say that Kiriya is pretty close to being an emotionless doll. I've never played any Shining games past Shining Force II on the Genesis, so I don't know anything about Shining Tears.

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watched episode 3

starting to think japanese writers are self loathers, or masochists or something

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Old 2007-04-25, 23:46   Link #82
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er, no. Way to dumb it down to absurdity though. kudos

just saying they go overboard. To the point it seems strange to me, and makes me wonder about them a little
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Old 2007-04-26, 00:27   Link #83
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just saying they go overboard. To the point it seems strange to me, and makes me wonder about them a little
It's called DRAMA. I mean, what's a story without the guy going through some hardships? Only difference is that this one kinda stabs him in the back...2 times over. But at least he knew about one of it prior. It'd be a lot worse if he didn't know the girl he liked liked Kiriya.

I don't particularly like Souma and Kiriya yet, but Souma's growing on me, especially after the 2nd half of Episode 3. I still think the show needs to at least give more hints on Xion/Zero though, and hopefully they'll do that in Episode 4. How did he become Dark Mk.II?
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Old 2007-04-26, 00:52   Link #84
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watched episode 3

starting to think japanese writers are self loathers, or masochists or something

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I think you're looking at it the wrong way. It's a great way for character growth. If the character was likeable at least. Souma is probably gonna end up with his partner in the end. I don't agree with it, but hey I'm not the writers here. I hated Tenge Tenjou as well because of this particular part of the story. Didn't like the main guy, and hated how the main girl swooned over said loser. Souma needs to stand aside and let Xion/Zero or whatever his name, take over. OR at least let the emotionless doll(as Altima puts it), re-arrange his whole thought process.

I really don't like Souma at all, and hope to see Kiriya fleshed out some, as I think he'd make for a cooler main character. Too worn out of all the antsy hot-blooded kids who frequent anime these days. Must be me getting older. I can't relate with them at all(not that I really could when I was a teenager anyway). Cool & collected > Angry and dramatic.
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Old 2007-04-26, 03:12   Link #85
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you can put obstacles in a characters way without castrating him

start a character off as a eunuch and some people (like me) are going to tune him out

some shows get it right, I didn't think this one did but could be wrong because I wasn't all that into it to begin with
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Old 2007-04-27, 22:25   Link #86
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episode 4 aired

in it, the first real links to Shining Tears

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Old 2007-04-28, 10:57   Link #87
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Yay for Ryuna and Elwyn.

Still waiting for Neige though...
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Old 2007-04-28, 13:04   Link #88
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I hated Tenge Tenjou as well because of this particular part of the story. Didn't like the main guy, and hated how the main girl swooned over said loser.
What he said. Tenjou Tenge was a pain in the ass because of this. A wannabe badass male lead with no skills to speak of and no redeeming qualities, only gaining attention because of some bloodline (or something like that, I'm shady on the details of the dragon summoning/hunting/whatever in that manga. TBH, couldn't care less.)

I pinned Kiriya for the main character in the beginning of episode one, and was surprised to see the POV shift to Souma quickly. He's self-centered, has a lousy sense of humor, jumps to conclusions quickly, and is hot-headed, which is probably why he is suffering now.

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I can't relate with them at all(not that I really could when I was a teenager anyway). Cool & collected > Angry and dramatic.
Which is why Kaze no Stigma is in my opinion a great pick this season, even though one blogger pinned it as "complaining over 4 months stale bread" Give me a male lead that can keep his wits about him any day...
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:07   Link #89
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What he said. Tenjou Tenge was a pain in the ass because of this. A wannabe badass male lead with no skills to speak of and no redeeming qualities, only gaining attention because of some bloodline (or something like that, I'm shady on the details of the dragon summoning/hunting/whatever in that manga. TBH, couldn't care less.)

I pinned Kiriya for the main character in the beginning of episode one, and was surprised to see the POV shift to Souma quickly. He's self-centered, has a lousy sense of humor, jumps to conclusions quickly, and is hot-headed, which is probably why he is suffering now.



Which is why Kaze no Stigma is in my opinion a great pick this season, even though one blogger pinned it as "complaining over 4 months stale bread" Give me a male lead that can keep his wits about him any day...
You must be my twin. So hard to find people who think the way I do on characters.

I'm about 1 episode shy of dropping this series. Something I never do. If I make it to 3 episodes, I usually stick with it. I can't blame it all on Souma. The whole series is lackluster IMO. But I'll give it 1 more episdoe.
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:11   Link #90
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I love everything about this series!

The seiyuus are great! The storyline holds a lot of potential. Who cares about the game? As long as the anime is good, that's what matters.

Am I the only Souma fan here?
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Old 2007-04-28, 15:40   Link #91
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Does anyone knows a blog that has screenshots of ep 4? Preferably a blog that does it before the fansubs comes out.
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Old 2007-04-28, 17:35   Link #92
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http://blog.xuite.net/rookierookie/moe/11308128

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Old 2007-04-28, 18:32   Link #93
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well it's not really cantonese
since any chinese speakers can read it

LOL@ most of the comments XD
the comments on the ring part and the part where Triheart pulled out a shinken from the guy made me laugh so hard XDDDDDDD
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Old 2007-04-28, 18:35   Link #94
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Old 2007-04-28, 19:22   Link #95
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I am calling it now. Kiriya will die and this will turn into a harem for Souma.

Really though, Kiriya seems like a killable character in my opinion.
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Old 2007-04-28, 19:38   Link #96
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so...which shinken have we seen so far?

(Kureha)
(Shiina)

Excellion(Zekuti)
Balmung((Jiido)

Seiryuuken(Ryuna)

I think that's all of them so far?
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Old 2007-04-28, 21:01   Link #97
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Good! Then I won't be reading anything. I Won't be spoiling myself like in other english blogs.

Wow! At the of those screenshot it had an relationship chart I think. Does anyone know 1 in english ?
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Old 2007-04-28, 21:12   Link #98
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Kiriya isn't gonna die anytime soon because he's the main character in the game. It seems that in the game you play through Kiriya's POV, while the anime makes it Souma's POV to make things different and let fans see both sides of the story. Personally I'm a Souma fan and like his hot-bloodedness and love the Shining series and this anime.
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Old 2007-04-28, 21:22   Link #99
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Well I did not say right off the bat. I think one of the main four will.
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Old 2007-04-29, 07:28   Link #100
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I haven't played any game in the Shining series, therefore...

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