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TigerII · 2007-04-28, 15:51

When she woke up, she shortly died afterwards. So he would have had to kill himself.

Jamezterr · 2007-04-28, 17:35

Not really, since Avalon is whatever Saber makes of it. She could of wished to be re-united with him. So that would explain it, if she did wake up in Avalon and he was there.

TigerII · 2007-04-28, 18:12

But then it would either be a fake Shirou or if she wanted the real one, the one still living on Earth, he would have to die(Or be transported through a new dimension..which is what some consider death).

Jamezterr · 2007-04-28, 18:15

Nahh, just having him appear there would be enough for everyone.

Through the power of magic of course. ^^

TigerII · 2007-04-28, 18:22

So have the real Shirou magically appear in another dimension..nice.

Demongod86 · 2007-04-28, 20:06

In the words of Vegeta, Shirou got "sent to another dimension!"

TigerII · 2007-04-28, 20:39

Hahaha, god its been so long since I watched that show. I miss the days of child hood.

Jamezterr · 2007-04-28, 22:51

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Originally Posted by TigerII

So have the real Shirou magically appear in another dimension..nice.

That much different then Saber being in a different era?

It wouldn't be that far feched.

TigerII · 2007-04-28, 23:01

I get that, but I was talking about death, which is entirely different.

To explain, lets call the dimensions planes.

Arthur became Saber yes, and yes appeared before Shirou. But she came from the past of the same plane as Shirou, just a different time.

In death, she leaves that plane. She is gone forever from it, past, present, and future. So say she does get to go to an afterlife in a paradise. And the way you are saying, she would want Shirou there. For him to be there, one of two things would happen. One would be a copy, or fake. Maybe he would have all the memories, and act just like Shirou, but it would not be Shirou, and she would want the one she was with. Now you want the real one. Say he is not killed, but transported there. That would mean he dies in his plane or the living world and appears in the afterlife world. Even if it just means he disappears, technically he would still be dead.

Do you understand what I am saying? For Saber to have the Shirou she was with and just not a Shirou made for her, he would have to die in his plane.

Jamezterr · 2007-04-28, 23:29

It doesn't nessesarly mean he would have to die to be teleported there or whatever, since there is all sorts of magic. Couple be many different ways, death might just be one of them. If she wished Shirou was there, the magic of Avalon would grant that wish most likely.

TigerII · 2007-04-29, 00:01

Then he would be with the undead. Basically she would be a zombie..lol

Jamezterr · 2007-04-29, 11:05

It doesn't mean that, lol.

mlai · 2007-04-29, 17:04

Taking that train of thought, time is irrelevant. Therefore Shirou lives his full life (up to 30 something years old), grows up to look like Archer, then dies.

Then his soul finds Saber in the afterlife.

So Shirou doesn't have to die before his time.

Jamezterr · 2007-04-29, 17:30

That wasnt the ending I had in mind, but even thats better then the ending that was in the Anime.

sharingan0619 · 2007-04-30, 15:25

you wanna know what guys? if we really really wanted an continuation of this, kinoko nasu can make up sum ridiculous crap, and we'd accept it, dats how much we wanna see more, hell, it could even be that saber comes back to save the world according to arthurian legends, arthur shall be called back one day to save the world from crisis, if anyone wants proof, see me, i have an article. man...i was out of action for a couple of days, and this discussion gets this heated...wow...great

Jamezterr · 2007-04-30, 15:49

I want to see more incredibly bad..

sharingan0619 · 2007-04-30, 16:08

and tell me...who doesn't? BTW, jamezterr, how is that website me and u discussed going?

Jamezterr · 2007-04-30, 17:43

He is going to ask me questions he needs to know, to get some ideas of how to make the site. ^^

Will probably be getting started tonight, or tomarrow.

sharingan0619 · 2007-04-30, 20:39

good good good, this is really good, this might just pull through man, mostly thx to u of course, keep me posted and lemme know if i can do anything to help!!XD

mlai · 2007-05-04, 08:58

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I would have loved her to live, but since the makers chose Saber to be King Arthur, it would have been odd to have her live.

Yup. Ppl who don't look too deeply into the story, forgets who Saber is.

This is Saber:
I may not so, for I have promised to do the
battle to the uttermost by the faith of my body, while me lasteth
the life, and therefore I had liefer to die with honour than to
live with shame; and if it were possible for me to die an hundred
times, I had liefer to die so oft than yield me to thee; for
though I lack weapon, I shall lack no worship.

Middle English:
liefer = rather
worship = honour

2007-04-28, 17:35	Link #182
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	Not really, since Avalon is whatever Saber makes of it. She could of wished to be re-united with him. So that would explain it, if she did wake up in Avalon and he was there. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-28, 18:15	Link #184
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	Nahh, just having him appear there would be enough for everyone. Through the power of magic of course. ^^ __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-28, 20:06	Link #186
Demongod86 Gundam Boobs and Boom FTW Join Date: Dec 2005	In the words of Vegeta, Shirou got "sent to another dimension!" __________________ Signature stolen by a horde of carnivorous bunnies. It is an unscientifically proven fact that they are attracted to signatures which break the signature rules.

2007-04-28, 23:29	Link #190
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	It doesn't nessesarly mean he would have to die to be teleported there or whatever, since there is all sorts of magic. Couple be many different ways, death might just be one of them. If she wished Shirou was there, the magic of Avalon would grant that wish most likely. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-29, 11:05	Link #192
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	It doesn't mean that, lol. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-28, 15:51	Link #181
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	When she woke up, she shortly died afterwards. So he would have had to kill himself.

2007-04-28, 18:12	Link #183
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	But then it would either be a fake Shirou or if she wanted the real one, the one still living on Earth, he would have to die(Or be transported through a new dimension..which is what some consider death).

2007-04-28, 18:22	Link #185
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	So have the real Shirou magically appear in another dimension..nice.

2007-04-28, 20:39	Link #187
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Hahaha, god its been so long since I watched that show. I miss the days of child hood.

2007-04-28, 23:01	Link #189
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	I get that, but I was talking about death, which is entirely different. To explain, lets call the dimensions planes. Arthur became Saber yes, and yes appeared before Shirou. But she came from the past of the same plane as Shirou, just a different time. In death, she leaves that plane. She is gone forever from it, past, present, and future. So say she does get to go to an afterlife in a paradise. And the way you are saying, she would want Shirou there. For him to be there, one of two things would happen. One would be a copy, or fake. Maybe he would have all the memories, and act just like Shirou, but it would not be Shirou, and she would want the one she was with. Now you want the real one. Say he is not killed, but transported there. That would mean he dies in his plane or the living world and appears in the afterlife world. Even if it just means he disappears, technically he would still be dead. Do you understand what I am saying? For Saber to have the Shirou she was with and just not a Shirou made for her, he would have to die in his plane.

2007-04-29, 00:01	Link #191
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Then he would be with the undead. Basically she would be a zombie..lol

2007-04-29, 17:04	Link #193
mlai Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Taking that train of thought, time is irrelevant. Therefore Shirou lives his full life (up to 30 something years old), grows up to look like Archer, then dies. Then his soul finds Saber in the afterlife. So Shirou doesn't have to die before his time.

2007-04-29, 17:30	Link #194
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	That wasnt the ending I had in mind, but even thats better then the ending that was in the Anime. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-30, 15:25	Link #195
sharingan0619 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: United States	you wanna know what guys? if we really really wanted an continuation of this, kinoko nasu can make up sum ridiculous crap, and we'd accept it, dats how much we wanna see more, hell, it could even be that saber comes back to save the world according to arthurian legends, arthur shall be called back one day to save the world from crisis, if anyone wants proof, see me, i have an article. man...i was out of action for a couple of days, and this discussion gets this heated...wow...great

2007-04-30, 15:49	Link #196
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	I want to see more incredibly bad.. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-30, 16:08	Link #197
sharingan0619 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: United States	and tell me...who doesn't? BTW, jamezterr, how is that website me and u discussed going?

2007-04-30, 17:43	Link #198
Jamezterr Deep in thought. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The world of Anime.	He is going to ask me questions he needs to know, to get some ideas of how to make the site. ^^ Will probably be getting started tonight, or tomarrow. __________________ <3 Saber, Teresa, Clare & Horo

2007-04-30, 20:39	Link #199
sharingan0619 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: United States	good good good, this is really good, this might just pull through man, mostly thx to u of course, keep me posted and lemme know if i can do anything to help!!XD