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Old 2007-05-08, 14:27   Link #1281
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really? u can actually choose manually in fate zero if u want a berserker or assassin>? in that case, i'd choose a assassin i don't think i would be able to control a berserker...LOL anyways,
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what do u mean im gonna help translate? i don't even know how to read japanese, i only know how to read english and traditional chinese, if u want me to try to translate traditiona chinese, i think i might give it a shot. also, if u remember where u got that info on fate zero the anime, let me know right away ok.
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Old 2007-05-08, 15:41   Link #1282
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But assassin is very weak on his own compared with the other servants--It is the only class that can match a human equally...
If I am really to summon a servant I'd like to have Archer...

I can't read Japanese either. It's a Chinese to English translation project--I hold the Chinese script which I attempted to translate it twice before, closely followed by two different accidents that destroyed my computer along with my home/apartment.
Realizing that it is a curse for not allowing me to translate the script alone, I dropped the translation project.
Still wanting to see the script translated, I decided to form a group to translate the script and thus the revival of the F/SN C>E translation project.
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Old 2007-05-08, 17:03   Link #1283
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ok iamandragon, im gamed, give me a copy of the traditional chinese script and i'll see what i can do.

assassin is weak? wtf u talking about? assassin evenly matched saber...i don't think that's weak, the weakest class is prolly rider...i dunno
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Old 2007-05-08, 17:17   Link #1284
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ok iamandragon, im gamed, give me a copy of the traditional chinese script and i'll see what i can do.

assassin is weak? wtf u talking about? assassin evenly matched saber...i don't think that's weak, the weakest class is prolly rider...i dunno
Well then leave your e-mail behind then...

I should have said 'true assassin'...

He was stuck in a corner once because the wind pressure exerted from Saber would slash him into pieces
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Old 2007-05-08, 20:00   Link #1285
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technically, "true" assassin is suppose to be more powerful than assassin, figuretively speaking that is,since he is the "true" assassin, dunno how he is suppose to be weaker,i already did my research on him,so u don't need to tell me anything.
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Old 2007-05-08, 21:28   Link #1286
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That's because Assassin in the 5th HG war is much cooler than true assassin^^

I'm assuming Assassin is much stronger because of his master, Caster, simply has overwhelmingly high mana compared to the master of True Assassin, whoose magic circuits are dying out in first place...

Or maybe the true identity of the servant also affects their capability? Like a Herculus Berserker is stronger than a Tizen Berserker...

Question: In the 4th HG war, almost everyone got to choose their own servant--how about in the 5th one? Is there anyone else apart from Illya(or to be strict, Illya's family...) who tried to choose their servant?
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Old 2007-05-09, 01:36   Link #1287
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Well, Shirou accidentally chose his servant...

The way I see it, because there were only 10 years since the last war, people didn't really get the time to prepare like they did before. It sort of snuck up on them. Seems to me it would take at least a few years to go and get an artifact connected to some specific hero.
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Old 2007-05-09, 05:16   Link #1288
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That's because Assassin in the 5th HG war is much cooler than true assassin^^

I'm assuming Assassin is much stronger because of his master, Caster, simply has overwhelmingly high mana compared to the master of True Assassin, whoose magic circuits are dying out in first place...

Or maybe the true identity of the servant also affects their capability? Like a Herculus Berserker is stronger than a Tizen Berserker...

Question: In the 4th HG war, almost everyone got to choose their own servant--how about in the 5th one? Is there anyone else apart from Illya(or to be strict, Illya's family...) who tried to choose their servant?
well i c guess you can say rin tried to draw saber, but then failed. i think the others just got what they got. assassin is not stronger because of caster, actually he is weaker than he is suppose to be because he was summoned by another servant which in terms gave him less mana because caster needs to keep some to herself also. in the end, assassin had to vanish because he ran out of sufficient mana.
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Old 2007-05-09, 17:53   Link #1289
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Oh...I forgot about the time too...

Assassins is weaker than True assassin, but he got more skills and is better than fighting--at least he can stand up against Saber.

And also...Caster only summoned Assassin, but she is not the 'real' master of Assassin since he's a product of rule breaking. The 'master' of Assassin is actually the gate to the shrine, who he made a pact with when being summoned(how? I don't know...I only remember the saying that assassin made a pact with the shrine gate in the game)

The gate, which is not a magician, cannot produce mana and thus cannot supply mana to Assassin who eventually ran out.
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Old 2007-05-09, 21:23   Link #1290
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exactly...so in a way, if assassin was summoned by a real magician, he would've been a bigger manace than he was. i thought he was kinda cool how he let saber go when he was about to go, really noble for an assassin who are suppose to be scoundrels
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Old 2007-05-10, 00:16   Link #1291
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If assassin is summoned by a real magician, True Assassin have to come out (one of the rule of the HG war that all assassins are 'supposed' to be Hassan--regardless of generation). And thus no Sasaki

I quite like Assassin too--but I still prefer Archer and Lancer
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Old 2007-05-10, 05:36   Link #1292
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i prefer saber ALL the time! say...where shirou and his father obtain the artifact for saber? how can it ne inside of them?
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Old 2007-05-10, 08:11   Link #1293
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Shirou's father got avalon through the Einzbern family, who got it through some unknown methods.

Avalon was 'inserted' into Shirou by Kiritsugu in order to save him from dying during the fire accident.
Yaoi jokes aside...(been watching too much hentai lately...)
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Old 2007-05-10, 10:41   Link #1294
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Sasaki Kojiro, despite (and because of) being Miamoto Musashi's nemesis, was a Japanese hero in his own right. He had a great deal of charisma and nobility. Popular myth ascribes him as being suave and urbane, like James Bond. In contrast to Musashi's rough-and-tumble appearance and ascetic lifestyle.

Assassins were not scoundrels. They were a secretive sect of devout Muslims who followed a fringe interpretation of the Quran. They dedicate their lives to their holy cause. They are not like the terrorists of today in that (1) they do not kill civilians and (2) they do not commit suicide.
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Old 2007-05-10, 14:04   Link #1295
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Shirou's father got avalon through the Einzbern family, who got it through some unknown methods.

Avalon was 'inserted' into Shirou by Kiritsugu in order to save him from dying during the fire accident.
Yaoi jokes aside...(been watching too much hentai lately...)
lol, i did not know girls watch hentai...echii

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ok ok, i was just koking, u don't have to go into that much detail bout this.

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Old 2007-05-12, 19:49   Link #1296
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A Fate/Zero related question, if Iskandar is capable of summoning the heroic spirits of his former comrades, why can't Saber do the same for her Knights of the Round Table?
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Old 2007-05-12, 21:26   Link #1297
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A Fate/Zero related question, if Iskandar is capable of summoning the heroic spirits of his former comrades, why can't Saber do the same for her Knights of the Round Table?
She just can't--different heroic spirits have different Noble Phantasms. Besides, the round table knights were not that all loyal in the end...
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Old 2007-05-12, 23:15   Link #1298
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hehehe...yeah she does have a point, they basically all sold her out in the end in the legend.
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do u happen to know where i can find and download fsn episodes that are subbed in chinese? the sites cannot be megaupload though since i cannot go to megaupload
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Old 2007-05-13, 00:41   Link #1299
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hehehe...yeah she does have a point, they basically all sold her out in the end in the legend.
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do u happen to know where i can find and download fsn episodes that are subbed in chinese? the sites cannot be megaupload though since i cannot go to megaupload
Actually when they got to India, Alexander's men said "F U bish, we're not going any further!"

At which point Alex the great said "Okay, PARTY TIME!"

And the day after the party, X_X, GG RIP to Alex Da Great.

I still think that Saber is the most huggable version of king arthur ever.
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Old 2007-05-25, 02:31   Link #1300
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Huggable...I understand what you mean...
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