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Old 2004-02-12, 19:09   Link #1
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Unhappy Lunar releasing separate versions in WMP9?

Lunar is releasing in both XViD and WMP9.

What for? WMP9 is a proprietary format, and so is AC3. It didn't even make the file size smaller. Why not just release in XViD/MP3 like all the sensible digisubbers?
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Old 2004-02-12, 20:03   Link #2
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we DO release in Xvid...
see that Xvid/MP3 version...

If you don't want WMV9, don't get it... as we have a version for those who can't use WMV9/AC3...

Having another doesn't hurt you, just get the Xvid if you want... but don't complain about it -_-
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Old 2004-02-12, 20:20   Link #3
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I just don't see any reason for you to do two releases, one standard and one proprietary.

02-13 . 00:12 Maburaho 16 (XviD / mp3) Lunar Anime 229.9 Mb. 5 1376 Details
02-13 . 00:12 Maburaho 16 (WMV9 / AC3) Lunar Anime 231.4 Mb. 16 190 Details

Look, nobody else likes WMV9 either.
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Old 2004-02-12, 20:35   Link #4
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One's higher quality...

And like I said, it doesn't cause a problem, so why not?
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Old 2004-02-13, 00:19   Link #5
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why arent there many divx formats out thier? i personally think divx 5.11pro gives me way better quality than xvid.
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Old 2004-02-13, 00:24   Link #6
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The answer to this question is really simple: Because encoders just wanna have fun.

I encode in the morning light
The leecher says when you gonna live your life right
Oh leecher dear, I've got this awesome new codec
And encoders, they wanna have fun
Woah encoders, they wanna have fun

Hey now, hey now
Whats a matta with ya
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on

The video crashes in the middle of the night
ashibaka yells whatcha gonna do with your life
ashibaka dear, you know your still number one
But encoders they wanna have fun
Woah encoders, they wanna have

Thats all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
You know encoders they wanna have fun
Come on

Some encoders take a beautiful vid
And encode just like everone using XviD
I wanna be the one to encode really 1337

Hey now, hey now
Whats a matta with ya
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on

Hey now, hey now
(When the windows media player is done)
Whats a matta with ya
(You know encoders they wanna have fun)
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on
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Old 2004-02-13, 00:36   Link #7
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Originally Posted by Lucier
One's higher quality...

And like I said, it doesn't cause a problem, so why not?
As long as there's an XVID version, I don't see anything wrong with providing a WMP9 version. Looking at the download counts XVID wins far and away, but it gives people the choice. I'm glad Lunar has XVID as an option, though--I think it was ep10 of Maburaho that was only WMP9 at first, which since I'm not running Windows meant I couldn't watch their version.

I hope in the future we don't see fansubbers going to WMP9-only--it would shut out all Mac and Linux users (yes, there's an OS X version of WiMP9, but it doesn't play WMV3 video). I think one of the cool things about XVID/DIVX/etc is they're free and with mplayer, vlc, etc. they run on all platforms, with decent performance even on older PCs (to a point).
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Old 2004-02-13, 00:54   Link #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSanninWa
The answer to this question is really simple: Because encoders just wanna have fun.

I encode in the morning light
The leecher says when you gonna live your life right
Oh leecher dear, I've got this awesome new codec
And encoders, they wanna have fun
Woah encoders, they wanna have fun

Hey now, hey now
Whats a matta with ya
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on

The video crashes in the middle of the night
ashibaka yells whatcha gonna do with your life
ashibaka dear, you know your still number one
But encoders they wanna have fun
Woah encoders, they wanna have

Thats all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
You know encoders they wanna have fun
Come on

Some encoders take a beautiful vid
And encode just like everone using XviD
I wanna be the one to encode really 1337

Hey now, hey now
Whats a matta with ya
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on

Hey now, hey now
(When the windows media player is done)
Whats a matta with ya
(You know encoders they wanna have fun)
Encoders just wanna have fun now
Come on
Wow you were really bored huh? XD
Anyhoo, I agree, why not? It just gives you an alternative.
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Old 2004-02-13, 01:05   Link #9
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I like the WMV9 version for the better quality video (yes, it's noticeable), but as long as Lunar doesn't go WMV9 exclusive I can't really complain. Kudos to outlaw55 for taking the time to make two versions.
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Old 2004-02-13, 01:33   Link #10
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Lunar is releasing in both XViD and WMP9.

What for? WMP9 is a proprietary format, and so is AC3. It didn't even make the file size smaller. Why not just release in XViD/MP3 like all the sensible digisubbers?

Why don't you save your complaining/whining and just download the one you want.
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Old 2004-02-13, 01:39   Link #11
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Succinctly put. Very good advice.

Still, I can't help but feel that ashibaka actually wanted to know why they bothered to put out two different version of the same show.
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Old 2004-02-13, 02:09   Link #12
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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa
parody++
I soooo have to try that with Karaoke Revolution now.... (runs off)
Actually, I don't like DivX5 because it feels as if it's way too bloated for its own good I do, however, agree that DivX5 is good for people who are starting to learn encoding and aren't planning to go too far in it. Basically, if you need a quick MPEG4 of something, and you aren't familiar with encoding, DivX would be good.
One question though, does AC3 provide less distortion at the same average bitrate as LAME MP3? If it doesn't, there's really no point in using it, since I've only seen it used for surround sound, and not stereo. And I don't think the Maburaho DVDs for that episode are out yet
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Old 2004-02-13, 13:31   Link #13
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I've a good reason for the 2 files though...
My computer tend to have lots of problem with the xvid codec, the decoder messes up some files, and lunar's files are one of them.

When i had problem with my codecs, i d/l the wmv9 version as it can't go wrong. and now that my computers working perfect again, a comparison of encodings got me to believe that AC3 and WMV9 are both better.

Good job Lunar, just do what you like, there will always be some people who agree which ever way it is done.
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Old 2004-02-13, 17:33   Link #14
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Originally Posted by p3psi
why arent there many divx formats out thier? i personally think divx 5.11pro gives me way better quality than xvid.
You obviously don't know how to set Xvid then....
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Old 2004-02-13, 17:34   Link #15
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Originally Posted by zalas
does AC3 provide less distortion at the same average bitrate as LAME MP3? If it doesn't, there's really no point in using it
AC3 was built with Hiss reduction in mind....

But they both suck so I'd just use Ogg...
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