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KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 15:16

DALEY BLIND, 2-0!!!

Just shoot the horse dead already, enough's enough.

Irenicus · 2014-07-12, 15:17

TWO.

My god, Brazil.

Mentar · 2014-07-12, 15:17

Interesting way of defending from Luiz. How much did PSG pay? 50 million pound?

Elazul · 2014-07-12, 15:18

Just can't believe it.

KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Mentar

Interesting way of defending from Luiz. How much did PSG pay? 50 million pound?

PSG got screwed by Chelsea big time with that amount of money.

Mentar · 2014-07-12, 15:21

Nothing against Holland, but I hope that Brazil scores soon. To avoid another rout.

Dhomochevsky · 2014-07-12, 15:31

Robben manages to run the 5 metres into the penalty zone before falling down... Gets the penalty.
Shouldn't it be about where you get fouled, instead of where you touch down?

Mentar · 2014-07-12, 15:38

Interesting Dutch defending, too. Does Cillessen have issues with crosses?

KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Robben manages to run the 5 metres into the penalty zone before falling down... Gets the penalty.
Shouldn't it be about where you get fouled, instead of were you touch down?

As I wrote with Pellissier, the problem is that the other option for that incident was a free kick outside of the box and an automatic red card because Silva was the last man anyway. The referee didn't have the balls to make that call with still 88 minutes to go.

Silva could have let Robben go and avoid further problems except for going down 0-1 early, but you know what reflexes a defender has on the pitch.

Dhomochevsky · 2014-07-12, 15:44

If it's inside the penalty zone, the 'last man' rule is overridden?
I am not that versed in such ruling details.

But still this does not seem like a choice the ref is to make. It's either inside, or it isn't. Weird decission~

Mentar · 2014-07-12, 15:48

Holland the much more mature and serious side, with a well-deserved lead. Brazil isn't completely in shambles like against Germany, but at THIS rate, they will lose again.

***Pellissier*** · 2014-07-12, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

If it's inside the penalty zone, the 'last man' rule is overridden?
I am not that versed in such ruling details.

The "last man" rule doesn't exist anymore. It's been replaced by "clear goal chance" (interrupting a clear goal chance with a foul equals to red card). Either way, that action was both last man and clear goal chance, hence I said no matter how you look at it that's always a red card. But not all referees apply this rule after 2 minutes, that is also a given.

And yes, penalty and red card coexist, one doesn't exclude the other. There have been some complaints asking to turn the red into yellow when a foul generates a penalty but so far rules haven't changed in that regard.

Jazzrat · 2014-07-12, 15:49

Just tune in to the end of half time, can't say i'm surprised by the scoreline. The team is going on a huge slump in team psychology after their disastrous result in the semi and it's going to be awhile before they can recover (need a new coach and a new team composition)

KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

If it's inside the penalty zone, the 'last man' rule is overridden?
I am not that versed in such ruling details.

But still this does not seem like a choice the ref is to make. It's either inside, or it isn't. Weird decission~

No. If it's inside the penalty area and it prevents a clear goalscoring opportunity, it can be a penalty and a red card at the same time. The ground for giving a red card is that the defender commits the foul to stop a definite breakaway.

The penalty decision was strange indeed, but it says how the ref was not keen to send the player off at all despite how blatant the foul was. So he took the escape door in a certain way.

Elazul · 2014-07-12, 15:52

Well, its not 0 - 5 at least.

Sadly, we are still playing "amateurish" in this match. But Oscar is doing a good job, thus creating some chances. Maybe we can score a goal on the second-half.

ChampDream · 2014-07-12, 16:00

Nobody notice there was a offside before the secong goal?, anyway, that Brazil awful defense is really funny to watch.

Bri · 2014-07-12, 16:01

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Originally Posted by Mentar

Interesting Dutch defending, too. Does Cillessen have issues with crosses?

Cillessen has no real weaknesses, although he sometimes looks a bit shaky. His league statistics last season were the best since Van der Sar.

Sakuratsuki · 2014-07-12, 16:16

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Originally Posted by ChampDream

Nobody notice there was a offside before the secong goal?, anyway, that Brazil awful defense is really funny to watch.

Yeah, that was definitely off-side. Brazil needs a new coach. This is just awful to watch. It's not because the Dutch team is really good but Brazil is just too bad.

KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Bri

Cillessen has no real weaknesses, although he sometimes looks a bit shaky. His league statistics last season were the best since Van der Sar.

That's really interesting. It's a shame that his fatal flaw is about saving penalties.

KiraYamatoFan · 2014-07-12, 16:26

Oscar getting the first yellow card in the whole tournament for diving, lol.

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KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 41	DALEY BLIND, 2-0!!! Just shoot the horse dead already, enough's enough.

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Irenicus Le fou, c'est moi Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 35	TWO. My god, Brazil.

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Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Interesting way of defending from Luiz. How much did PSG pay? 50 million pound?

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Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Nothing against Holland, but I hope that Brazil scores soon. To avoid another rout.

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Dhomochevsky temporary safeguard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Germany	Robben manages to run the 5 metres into the penalty zone before falling down... Gets the penalty. Shouldn't it be about where you get fouled, instead of where you touch down?

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Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Interesting Dutch defending, too. Does Cillessen have issues with crosses?

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Mentar Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Hamburg Age: 54	Holland the much more mature and serious side, with a well-deserved lead. Brazil isn't completely in shambles like against Germany, but at THIS rate, they will lose again.

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