2012-12-03, 17:48 | Link #24941 | |
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Only an international effort that levels the playing field could provide the means to make them pay more taxes. However, the own interests of the very nations that could benefit from a concerted approach, stands in the way of getting there. Every nation wants to outsmart the others... in the end they all loose - being outsmarted by multinational corporations (this applies also for states on national level and cities on state level).
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2012-12-04, 10:20 | Link #24943 | |
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Paying for sex: Women's groups call for EU-wide ban Quote:
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2012-12-04, 10:27 | Link #24945 | |
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1) People are less sensitive to scenes of gore or violence after being exposed to pornography 2) There has been a higher incidence of erectile dysfunction among young men who consume significant amounts of pornography Apparently there's a part of the brain, that for a lack of a better example, gets acclimated to the intensity of the stimulus. Reminds me of issues that heroine addicts apparently experience.. Reply hazy, ask again later |
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2012-12-04, 10:32 | Link #24946 | |
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2012-12-04, 11:44 | Link #24947 | |
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All hail your muslim brothers from Chechnya, who are fighting in Syria as mercenaries now. Stupid people.
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2012-12-04, 12:02 | Link #24948 | |
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Who Let This Man Die on the Subway?
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2012-12-04, 12:21 | Link #24949 | |
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Honestly, those women are right to ask something such as this and I hope they will end up succeeding in Europe. Right now, there's also the issue of human trafficking that has to stop and having such ban would be a major help. |
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2012-12-04, 12:32 | Link #24950 |
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Let's continue on the sophism more, next we ban build related work cause there's no women inside and it's an obstacle of gender equality?
Ridiculous argumentation imho, it's true there's gender inequality, but I highly doubt prostitution is the main factor. Let alone the fact no state should impose his view on how women use their vagin, breats or whatever, women should be free to use it as they want it, it goes for both IVG or selling their body. What society truly needs to do is indeed, fighting against big human traffick networks that bring east european women in west because it's their sole chance of living, and the second on a farther view is to make sure women have other possibilities than selling their body to get a living. But banning prostitution ... really? |
2012-12-04, 12:42 | Link #24951 |
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^ Now now, labeling it sophism is kind of .. inflammatory right?
It's about where the social consensus is at the moment with regards to regulation and rights, etc etc. There are restrictions on tobacco and alcohol, there are restrictions on underage "relations" there are all kinds of restrictions on what you can or can't do with your own body already -- to say otherwise is to pick and choose your arguments to fit your viewpoint. Ultimately I agree it's better to treat root causes than try to legislate your way into the desired outcomes, but let's not utterly dismiss their position as nonsense. That said, it'll never pass, so this is probably just a grab for press "mindspace" Reply hazy, ask again later |
2012-12-04, 12:44 | Link #24952 | |
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Mortar attack on school outside Damascus 'kills 29'
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2012-12-04, 13:11 | Link #24953 | |
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In any case, more emphasis should be placed on improving economic and social prospects so that things like prostitution and trafficking aren't so tempting. Unfortunately these are systemic issues that require changes which aren't so easily done, but regardless of anyone's personal feelings on the matter, people in the current world are still going to pay for sex, and people are willing to provide it, and banning it won't amount to anything more than a feel good law that doesn't solve anything in the long term. It just strikes me as puritanical wishful thinking.
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2012-12-04, 14:44 | Link #24954 |
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Ah, Sweden. The country of banning, political correctness and being a role model for everyone. Whether they want it or not.
It pretty much blew up for a little while in the media here, too, and the general response is a massive sigh, for reasons already stated.
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2012-12-04, 14:52 | Link #24956 | |
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They all left the country! Their descendents are scattered across the realms of their pillaging and in Iceland. |
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2012-12-04, 14:56 | Link #24957 | |||
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Then again... generally speaking, prostitutes are unfortunate enough that they have to, well, be prostitutes to earn a living. They really don't need to deal with more crap, IMO. |
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2012-12-04, 14:57 | Link #24958 |
Asuki-tan Kairin ↓
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What I see as more important in this discussion about the merits of a prostitution ban is a clear differentation between forced prostitution which is typical for organized crime and... for a lack of a better term lets call it home grown prostitution akin to a one person business model.
The forced prostitution is done in a way that prostitutes are trapped inside the business. This is akin to slavery. Now, the gender equality argument is a really stupid one, since it implies, in a sense, that someone who sells his/her body to make a living and it is their own decission... that these people must be of lower social standing. This in itself shows how bigoted these so called women rights activists actually are. I wonder what they want to regulate next in the name of gender equality... men are not allowed to give girl friends presents and have sexual intercourse in the next three days, because it is so similar to prostitution. Anyway, I agree, that there must be (enforcable) rules that protect the people involved in prostitution. Its a very delicate decission to prostitute oneself. It must always be possible for such people to return to a life without prostitution. And of course this will require, that the image of prostitution is better. Currently the image of prostitution alone causes a vicious circle, because the stigma of that business makes finding normal work almost impossible.
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