2012-11-22, 19:39 | Link #2781 | |
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Until the last five minutes that it, when Ao abandons his principles and fires the quartz gun, changing reality and possibly killing Elena (no Eureka to save her) and Fleur (Daddy chooses Mommy this time around) and who knows who else, all so that his parents could have a happy ending. "Someone or something must be sacrificed" indeed! And let's not forget that Elena straight up murdered Miller, and no one anywhere seemed to care. |
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2012-11-22, 20:12 | Link #2782 |
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Time Travel paradoxes give me a headache.
We don't know the effect of firing the Quartz gun again exactly as we never saw the exact state of the world. Some things are for certain such as Naru never being infected by the Scub in the first place. Also no Scub Coral in Okinawa. |
2012-11-22, 20:31 | Link #2783 | ||
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And regarding any impact the truth has on her, despite have none on anyone else, I'll repeat what I said earlier. I wasn't even invested in her character to begin with, so why would I care how it affected her? From the beginning, she was just a girl hanging around, every line out of her mouth an anime/manga reference. Which, if combined with other aspects of a character, could've been a fun little personality quirk. But when that's mostly all we get? That's not a character, that's an advertisement. So, I couldn't get invested in her to start with, so any impact the reveal had on her after that moment (which we can only guess at since we saw almost nothing of her afterwards, not how this event would impact her from now on, how it would affect the way she lives her life in the future; not that that's an issue anymore since Ao quartz gunned all of that), rings hollow. Quote:
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2012-11-23, 02:29 | Link #2784 | |||
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2012-11-23, 05:43 | Link #2785 |
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Time bubbles. Koizumi explained to Kyon about the Disappearance of Haruhi in a way that was easy to understand. Basically along a timeline there is point a) the start, point x) the time changing event, and point b) the continued timeline from point x. But point b reverts back to point x. the two join up. then from here a new point b exists. if drawn on a chart this time bubble would be drawn in a circle, with the final result having a linear line from point a to point x to point b, with a circle touching the timeline at point x. simple really. In the case of this series, there are multiple circles or time bubbles within the overall time bubble.
If the Haruhi anime continued, Koizumis explanation would be animated.
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2012-11-23, 10:06 | Link #2786 |
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a bit messy towards the end, maybe i forgot most of the previous episodes
so everything is reset back to the world that we know, btw how is Ao going to land without trapar? overall is an ok show with very good animations
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2012-11-23, 10:14 | Link #2787 | ||
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2012-11-23, 10:25 | Link #2788 |
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Pregnant Eureka was already aware that her child would not be able to survive in a high trapar environment. Therefore, Renton and her must have desperately searched for a suitable place to raise their child. Since the kid ended up dying and Eureka had to be sent to another world to give birth to Ao, it's safe to assume there is no such place in their own world. They will never have any other children.
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2012-11-23, 14:28 | Link #2789 | |
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Regarding her being the only person hologram Eureka was able to touch, that was in between travelling different universes. We don't know if she touched her at the moment she saved her. As for her being in future, that doesn't do her any good. She thought she was entitled to a more exciting life in a more distant future, not a boring past with even less technology her entertainment is so dependant on. As for her hair color...well yeah it is certainly strange that they would note the strangeness of Ao's hair colour whilst ignoring Elena's, but it's definitely not a deal breaker for me. At least, that's not where my thoughts were at the time.
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2012-11-23, 15:20 | Link #2790 | |
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So Eureka could save Elena without touching her, but couldn't save AO without touching him? That makes no sense. I think the "real answer" that Elena was originally supposed to be someone special--part-Coralian, hence the pastel-colored hair--and that Eureka brought her to the Ao-verse for some specific reason. However, they probably ran out of time so just dropped her story line and came up with the "human from the past" story line, even though it makes no sense given what came before it. |
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2012-11-23, 15:27 | Link #2791 | ||
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[edit] If I may say so, I think that's an extremely liberal interpretation.
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2012-11-23, 18:12 | Link #2794 | |
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Renton sent Eureka back to the past though a pillar of light on the spur of the moment. Their plan was probably to have Eureka give birth to Ao on earth where the trapper is at low levels, but they got stuck having to shoot down secrets and scub coral so were in a bit of a dilemma. now thats over they can resume their plan on having kids on earths surface.
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2012-11-23, 18:32 | Link #2795 |
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It was pink when she was a kid too. Plus there was that scene where she submerged herself in the bath tub so if it is dyed then it must be ridiculously strong. I do kinda think they were taking advantage of the ambiguity there, just like with Naru's fake alien ears that she wore for no apparent reason...
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2012-11-24, 03:18 | Link #2796 |
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Perhaps just like his mother, as shown in episode 3? I believe there was a glimpse of trapar just as the destroyed Nirvash (or Truth) disappeared, as they were probably carrying a bit of trapar around them by moving between dimensions, but that probably won`t help Ao land normally.
What makes me wonder even more is what his life is going to be now. Of course it`s going to be weird for people around him that his natural hair and eye color are abnormal, but eventually they`ll find out that he`s actually either an alien or a mutation, as he can see Infrared and Ultraviolet waves. Maybe this is actually a gateway for another sequel where he tries to figure out how he can leave this (our) universe, and reunite with his parents. I`d love such a thing, personally. |
2012-11-24, 06:10 | Link #2797 |
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So, I just Marthoned the Original Eureka seven over the past two days. . .and wow, that show is hugely superior in every way to AO, and I can see why I was extreemly disapointed in AO, I mean really on a scale I'd rate E7 at a 95/100 (due to some of the flaws that were there but really were pretty minor in the course of the show) and AO at like a 25/100.
They really should have devoted a full 50 episode show to give it justice, ESPECAILLY since they seemed to only remake the show as a money grab. . .why not just put the needed money into it and make it as epic as the first one? That would make the studio a LOT more money than whatever the fuck happened here. Oh and I realize that there WAS room for a sequel, they could have made a story about what would happen if the scub(or parts of them) would return (as they hinted they may have to in the future) that would have made for an awesome sequel and would have done justice/answered some of the unanswered (well not really unanswered but rather cloudy) questions in the first E7. It just seems like the Japanese like to suffer sometimes, rather than do thigns the right(common sense)way...its no wonder why theyve been in a economic recession/depression for the past 30 years... (I've been living here[Tokyo] for a while for work/business and I've seen a lot of shit that qualifies me saying that) |
2012-11-24, 13:04 | Link #2798 |
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Damn, i really hate what this sequel did to Eureka7. It Had so much plotholes everywhere, pointless charctaers and it basically went against everything what made the prequel so great and even destroyed the wonderfull and deserved ending that everyone was fighting so hard for.
To sum it up. Dewey was right after all and Ray got her revenge on Eureka even after her death. I can just facepalm on about how absurd daffy this sequel was. Bones, I'm angry and disapointed and that is only the nice way to say how i feel about it. |
2012-11-24, 15:06 | Link #2799 |
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You know what, this series has proved to me to so completely different from what happened or explained in Palms of Planets. im willing to state right here and right now that there is enough evidence to suggest that the Eureka and Renton we saw in Ao is NOT the same people we saw in Palms of Planets. In PoP, the spokes person of the scub coral (the hippy aboard the Gekko-Go) told them they would disappear to another universe to work out a way of living with mankind before they return.
Answer me this, if the Secrets were tailing the scub coral wherever it went, where the fuck were they in PoP?? Hu? ANSWER ME THIS. BAD END IS BAD, AO. BONES- DISAPPOINT. Franchise cash in. Thats all this was. Believe in the DVD cover. IT HAPPENED
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