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Old 2017-01-09, 13:01   Link #3101
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hey does any one know what Shiki Thirteen stepping-stones do? Like are they hot-keyed to do specific thing always, or are they set to have specific properties like area of effect or boost attributes? because at first i thought it was the latter but now I thinks it the former. Which is it?
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Old 2017-01-09, 13:04   Link #3102
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I want to see Maloto lose his temper. Sometimes he bores me.
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Old 2017-01-09, 17:34   Link #3103
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hey does any one know what Shiki Thirteen stepping-stones do? Like are they hot-keyed to do specific thing always, or are they set to have specific properties like area of effect or boost attributes? because at first i thought it was the latter but now I thinks it the former. Which is it?
Each one is hotkeyed to a specific thing, whether it is a direct spell, utility spell, a buff, or a transformation. I think those 13 are based on Makoto's mana rings he had to wear for the ruling contract to work on him. So i guess whatever they do has a stupidly high mana cost
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Old 2017-01-09, 19:17   Link #3104
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I want to see Maloto lose his temper. Sometimes he bores me.
You will....at the end of this arc.
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Old 2017-01-09, 19:50   Link #3105
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I want to see Maloto lose his temper. Sometimes he bores me.
I want to know who is this Maloto you speak of?
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Old 2017-01-09, 21:33   Link #3106
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Maloto? You're not talking about Torreto, right
Yeah, can't wait to see he lost his temper... Burn the Demon!!
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Old 2017-01-09, 21:45   Link #3107
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I want to know who is this Maloto you speak of?
Maloto definition in my local native language is "staring with such a tension that as if your eyeballs gonna burst out"
So he probably refers to... Tomoki?




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Old 2017-01-10, 02:13   Link #3108
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Hmm... after reading latest chapters I was wondering, isn't sakai super OPed? I mean if he can use it to create microwaves, spy people conversations, track others etc. can't he also setup even more ridiculous AoE such as: areas where "blessings" or "divine abilities" do not work, or "skill stealer" zone, zone "where magic does not work"? AkA make heroes even more pathetic by totally stopping Trashmoki's immortality or charm power or whatever abilities Hipocrite has

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Old 2017-01-10, 02:41   Link #3109
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Hmm... after reading latest chapters I was wondering, isn't sekai super OPed? I mean if he can use it to create microwaves, spy people conversations, track others etc. can't he also setup even more ridiculous AoE such as: areas where "blessings" or "divine abilities" do not work, or "skill stealer" zone, zone "where magic does not work"? AkA make heroes even more pathetic by totally stopping Trashmoki's immortality or charm power or whatever abilities Hipocrite has
What is this sekai you speak of, I know of Makoto's ability sakai that roughly translates to 'field'. Sekai, from my limited knowledge in moon runes, is supposed to mean 'World'. How the hell did Dio enter that world
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Old 2017-01-10, 03:43   Link #3110
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What is this sekai you speak of, I know of Makoto's ability sakai that roughly translates to 'field'. Sekai, from my limited knowledge in moon runes, is supposed to mean 'World'. How the hell did Dio enter that world
Here, fixed. Happy?
Why are everyone so picky with such little details? Do they have no life or something? As if they have never made a single mistake...
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Old 2017-01-10, 06:05   Link #3111
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Hmm... after reading latest chapters I was wondering, isn't sakai super OPed? I mean if he can use it to create microwaves, spy people conversations, track others etc. can't he also setup even more ridiculous AoE such as: areas where "blessings" or "divine abilities" do not work, or "skill stealer" zone, zone "where magic does not work"? AkA make heroes even more pathetic by totally stopping Trashmoki's immortality or charm power or whatever abilities Hipocrite has
It is Over Powered, to an absurd degree. However, it likely has currently unknown limitations that prevent things like "Area without Magic", "Area beyond the God's Power". Remember, Sekai/Sakai (no, I'm not teasing you, Sparteh, I'm teasing Corvo269. He deserves it for not actually trying to answer your question) is a power generated through Tsukuyomi's ability to grant random gifts. That means that it won't be able to go beyond, or even reach, what Tsukuyomi himself can do. Purposefully creating areas without Magic, or where Divine Power does not work, is something that I would put as beyond Tsukuyomi. Everything that we have actually seen happen with Sekei/Sakai are all things that I would put under the possible power of any God, should they try, to one degree or another. Even the healing. What you're suggesting as potential possibilities, however, actually reaches the realm of messing with things either that God's specialise in, or messing with things another God has done.

Interestingly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Makato could have actually used Sakai/Sake to communicate, using it as a medium which translates his words into the local one.
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Old 2017-01-10, 07:20   Link #3112
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It is Over Powered, to an absurd degree. However, it likely has currently unknown limitations that prevent things like "Area without Magic", "Area beyond the God's Power". Remember, Sekai/Sakai (no, I'm not teasing you, Sparteh, I'm teasing Corvo269. He deserves it for not actually trying to answer your question) is a power generated through Tsukuyomi's ability to grant random gifts. That means that it won't be able to go beyond, or even reach, what Tsukuyomi himself can do. Purposefully creating areas without Magic, or where Divine Power does not work, is something that I would put as beyond Tsukuyomi. Everything that we have actually seen happen with Sekei/Sakai are all things that I would put under the possible power of any God, should they try, to one degree or another. Even the healing. What you're suggesting as potential possibilities, however, actually reaches the realm of messing with things either that God's specialise in, or messing with things another God has done.

Interestingly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Makato could have actually used Sakai/Sake to communicate, using it as a medium which translates his words into the local one.
Interesting point of view. Personally, I saw it a bit differently. The way I saw it was something similar to martial arts teacher or a painter and student relationship. Makoto was given technique (like a student was taught by a teacher), but he is different individual, therefore he could evolve it along the way to the point where it surpasses original. Considering that Makoto already has god like firepower and it is still growing, what stops him from improving it to become a new, more OPed power
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Old 2017-01-10, 10:34   Link #3113
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Interesting point of view. Personally, I saw it a bit differently. The way I saw it was something similar to martial arts teacher or a painter and student relationship. Makoto was given technique (like a student was taught by a teacher), but he is different individual, therefore he could evolve it along the way to the point where it surpasses original. Considering that Makoto already has god like firepower and it is still growing, what stops him from improving it to become a new, more OPed power
It's been hinted Makoto can exceed its(Sakai's) limits if he gain his own divinity. That can only happen if he gets followers or cultists that worship him, or gets things sacrificed in his name etc. etc.
Of course, he's pretty much halfway there but still oblivious to how divinity works so he still isn't aware of it
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Old 2017-01-10, 11:24   Link #3114
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I want to know who is this Maloto you speak of?
I have big hands. And K and L are next to each other. Sometimes it happens. I am not sorry though.
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Old 2017-01-11, 13:02   Link #3115
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Damn, Sari could give Ema a run for her money in regards to intelligence ans managment. And Makoto should really not drink when someone is offering his daughters for marriage. Otherwise Mio might turn into full fledge berserker mode
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Old 2017-01-12, 00:57   Link #3116
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Interesting point of view. Personally, I saw it a bit differently. The way I saw it was something similar to martial arts teacher or a painter and student relationship. Makoto was given technique (like a student was taught by a teacher), but he is different individual, therefore he could evolve it along the way to the point where it surpasses original. Considering that Makoto already has god like firepower and it is still growing, what stops him from improving it to become a new, more OPed power
The same limitations are there under the basis of your viewpoint. Think of it this way, in practicing martial arts, you're still limited by your tools, be the tools in question your body, swords, whips, clubs, guns, whatever. Similarly, there will be fundamental limitations on what Sakai can do. This doesn't mean that it's weaker than it would be without those limitations, just that there's things that it simply can not do. This will relate to the fundamentals of how Sakai works, and is unlikely to actually be explored in the story. However, we can come up with some reasonable assumptions on what those limits are.

1. Can't simply "negate" the presence of matter. In that it can't stop matter from simply existing in a set area.
2. Can't simply "negate" the presence of Mana.
3. Can't simply "negate" the presence of Divine Power.
4. Can't simply "negate" spells and/or abilities entering the field.

However, just because something can't be done doesn't mean that something similar can't occur.

1. May be able to push matter away at the edge of the related field.
2. May be able to eject Mana from inside the field.
3. Unlikely to be able to interfere directly with Divine Power. If wrong, likely to be the best shield against Divine Power due to it's source essentially being Divine Power.
4. May be able to deflect spells and/or other abilities that come in contact with the field.
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Old 2017-01-14, 07:52   Link #3117
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About Sekai/Sakai (I wanted the power to be called sekai since it means world, sakai makes me think of sake the way its pronounced) in its current state is supposedly still in its incomplete form, so there is possibly room to grow in that direction for Makoto. We might see its full form or not after Makoto finally snaps.

Sari is more beneficial to Asora than Lucia since she has extensive knowledge on diplomacy, domestic affairs, as well as information gathering.

Now about 191~

Makoto had a lot of fun fighting the demon generals in battle of tactics and teamplay. He even had time to examine the demon lord's magic swordsmanship in the midst of that flaming meteorite attacking him. This battle maniac.... he probably enjoys watching other people's trump cards being overturned.

What's more dangerous than a gender bending dragon throwing rainbows? A warmed up Makoto throwing deathrays.
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Old 2017-01-14, 08:29   Link #3118
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chapter 191 was a treat to read.
What i loved most was Ronas request to Makoto.
“For you to be unwounded even when I used that, just how tough are you? At least receive a slight scald for formality!”
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Old 2017-01-14, 08:38   Link #3119
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Can't Makoto just...I dunno...destroy that breath attack from Root using darkness magic?
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Old 2017-01-14, 09:21   Link #3120
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^ If it was that simple then I'm sure he would have done it by now, and I think the darkness element is also included inside Root's breath attack.
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