Character Discussion - Kallen

[Phantom-Takaya]

Indeed. Implying rape or "make use of your body" is not something I'm willing to excuse, especially to my favorite character. Now, if Kallen looked scared, I would have been more angry. I personally don't like Gino, but since he somewhat saved her, I'll respect him for it.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

I don't think implying rape is 'a little'.

I don't think the Knight of Ten was implying rape. He seems more like the kind of guy who'd cut her up, torture her badly, not a rapist. Kallen realized that she could get seriously hurt if he tried something, as he wouldn't hold back like Suzaku had before.

[Dream_Traveller]

Well, then, that's all the same- certainly not a 'little'.

[ramadden13]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Mordred, tricked out? Throughout the series and in the new OP, it looks...well, the same.

Compared to the mass-production models the Mordred is certainly tricked out. In that post I was referencing a post that asked if Kallen could beat a KoR without all her upgrades. I was saying that the Mordred is tricked out compared to pre-upgrade Guren.

[Verist]

Originally Posted by True Warrior

There's nothing bad with upgrades everyone gets them but how can you judge someone skill as a pilot from just A) Reading a manual and suddenly kicking everyone's ass who's trained hard for years, its an insult to them and the viewer or B) Receiving mid flight upgrades during the heat of battle and just in the nick of time stopping to high ranking soldiers from ganging up on by stopping their operation systems.

Well there is something for having natural ability.. I doubt Anya has been trained for years. I know what Kallen's abilities are, I've seen her fight almost every named person in the series. I have not seen Gino, Anya or Luciano fight much. I don't feel like I'm going out on a limb to say her skills match or rival them, especially when Gino and many other agree.

[NettoSaito]

im pretty sure Kallen could beat the crap out of them if they tried to do anything to her.... i mean.... look at what happened to suzaku... and that was when she wasn't even trying to kill him or anything.... she was just kind of ticked and wanted to cause him pain.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by NettoSaito

im pretty sure Kallen could beat the crap out of them if they tried to do anything to her.... i mean.... look at what happened to suzaku... and that was when she wasn't even trying to kill him or anything.... she was just kind of ticked and wanted to cause him pain.

suzaku let her beat him up
thats why she stopped halfway rather then kick him when he was down
this guy doesnt seem to be like that (lacks any form of honor)
and he did say that he was an expert killer

[NettoSaito]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

suzaku let her beat him up
thats why she stopped halfway rather then kick him when he was down
this guy doesnt seem to be like that (lacks any form of honor)
and he did say that he was an expert killer

that is true..... but suzaku and kallen are evenly matched and we saw suzaku stop one of his attacks.... which was more of a greeting, and not truly aimed to kill suzaku. so... yeah i guess we'll just see what happens....

[bladeofdarkness]

what happens is simple
she gets out of jail
she gets the guren back
she kicks his ass (hopefully in to a shallow grave)

[NettoSaito]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

what happens is simple
she gets out of jail
she gets the guren back
she kicks his ass (hopefully in to a shallow grave)

like i replied saying in the C.C. topic. Kallen is the queen in Lelouch's army. In chess to get a queen back after it is captured you can send a pawn in to save it. Most likely it will be the same here. Chances are Lelouch will send one of his "pawns" in to brake her out.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by NettoSaito

like i replied saying in the C.C. topic. Kallen is the queen in Lelouch's army. In chess to get a queen back after it is captured you can send a pawn in to save it. Most likely it will be the same here. Chances are Lelouch will send one of his "pawns" in to brake her out.

rolo and sayoko

[Methuselah]

I don't think Code Geass have always been putting the battles according to Chess rules. Judging from the Op and the situtation, the Guren is next the the Lancelot, possibly a united we stand. The only way this make sense is that Lelouch convinced Suzaku to let her go and work together to stop so and so in the later disasters that awakes them. Not a surprise there....==

[Discerptor]

In Chess, you lose the pawn you send to regain the queen. Could a rescue mission for Kallen be the end for Rolo or Sayoko? Still, I think Suzaku may be involved in helping Kallen out in some way (should make for a funny "And WHY should I trust you?!" punch to the gut), since I'm hoping he and Lelouch will come to some sort of understanding next episode and agree that they need to get Nunnally out of Britannia's reach. Suzaku may feel bad enough about what he didn't do to Kallen and the bloodsucker's presence to suggest getting her out as well (or it could just be part of Lelouch's plan so he suggests it).

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Well, as far as Kallen goes, for those on Britannia's side that might just help her escape one way or another:

1. Nunnally. The girl considers Kallen a friend and she has started to notice the uglier sides of Britannia as well as started to lose her trust in Suzaku. And I don't think sh elikes the ide aof Kallen possibly being used as a hostage, so...
Besides, if the girl has really figured out or strongly suspects that Lelouch is Zero as some speculates is the case, then that might be even more reason for her to want to return his "protector" to his side.

2. Guilford. It's clear to us that Orange seem to be blackmailing him using cornelia to help them. That might mean that if there's a rescue attempt for Kallen or the like, he will help or even do it himself, for the sake of his princess.

3. Suzaku. If he and Lelouch does come to some sort of understanding next episode or the like, then I suppose that he might just do it. It's a big IF though, because otherwise, why would he help her escape? Why would he return the OotBK's strongest ace to them?

4. Gino. The guy apparently wants a rematch with Kallen. He might help her escape just to get the chance for a rematch, so...

5. Anya. Very unlikely, but still possible if she partiparticles in the battle next time around and Orange for some reason uses his anti-geass which affects her, I suppose.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Discerptor

In Chess, you lose the pawn you send to regain the queen. Could a rescue mission for Kallen be the end for Rolo or Sayoko? Still, I think Suzaku may be involved in helping Kallen out in some way (should make for a funny "And WHY should I trust you?!" punch to the gut), since I'm hoping he and Lelouch will come to some sort of understanding next episode and agree that they need to get Nunnally out of Britannia's reach. Suzaku may feel bad enough about what he didn't do to Kallen and the bloodsucker's presence to suggest getting her out as well (or it could just be part of Lelouch's plan so he suggests it).

I honestly do not see that happening with Suzaku aiding Kallen's escape. Suzaku may promise to keep Nunally safe but we still do not know what that entails and giving her to Lelouch does not really make her any safer then with Lelouch now that war is going to break loose. They were also building up Kallen's relationship with Nunally as well so if anyone is going to be instrumental in aiding her it would be Nunally. I just don't see Suzaku being so kind to Lelouch as to set Kallen free and give her the upgraded Gurren as a present.

[NettoSaito]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, as far as Kallen goes, for those on Britannia's side that might just help her escape one way or another:

1. Nunnally. The girl considers Kallen a friend and she has started to notice the uglier sides of Britannia as well as started to lose her trust in Suzaku. And I don't think sh elikes the ide aof Kallen possibly being used as a hostage, so...
Besides, if the girl has really figured out or strongly suspects that Lelouch is Zero as some speculates is the case, then that might be even more reason for her to want to return his "protector" to his side.

2. Guilford. It's clear to us that Orange seem to be blackmailing him using cornelia to help them. That might mean that if there's a rescue attempt for Kallen or the like, he will help or even do it himself, for the sake of his princess.

3. Suzaku. If he and Lelouch does come to some sort of understanding next episode or the like, then I suppose that he might just do it. It's a big IF though, because otherwise, why would he help her escape? Why would he return the OotBK's strongest ace to them?

4. Gino. The guy apparently wants a rematch with Kallen. He might help her escape just to get the chance for a rematch, so...

5. Anya. Very unlikely, but still possible if she partiparticles in the battle next time around and Orange for some reason uses his anti-geass which affects her, I suppose.

1. Yeah Nunnally and Kallen seem to be friends. They both like each other, and get along really well. By the looks of it they would try to protect each other if anything were to happen.

2. Maybe....

3. I think Suzaku would save Nunnally even if Lelouch didn't show up. Suzaku is like her second brother. Suzaku cares about Nunnally a lot, so I don't think he would let anything happen to her.

4. lol it would be kind of strange but possible.

5. I'd like to see that happen!

[Blue_Mercy]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, as far as Kallen goes, for those on Britannia's side that might just help her escape one way or another:

1. Nunnally. The girl considers Kallen a friend and she has started to notice the uglier sides of Britannia as well as started to lose her trust in Suzaku. And I don't think sh elikes the ide aof Kallen possibly being used as a hostage, so...
Besides, if the girl has really figured out or strongly suspects that Lelouch is Zero as some speculates is the case, then that might be even more reason for her to want to return his "protector" to his side.

2. Guilford. It's clear to us that Orange seem to be blackmailing him using cornelia to help them. That might mean that if there's a rescue attempt for Kallen or the like, he will help or even do it himself, for the sake of his princess.

3. Suzaku. If he and Lelouch does come to some sort of understanding next episode or the like, then I suppose that he might just do it. It's a big IF though, because otherwise, why would he help her escape? Why would he return the OotBK's strongest ace to them?

4. Gino. The guy apparently wants a rematch with Kallen. He might help her escape just to get the chance for a rematch, so...

5. Anya. Very unlikely, but still possible if she partiparticles in the battle next time around and Orange for some reason uses his anti-geass which affects her, I suppose.

You forgot the choice of Kallen breaks out of there herself, and steals the Guren on her own.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Blue_Mercy

You forgot the choice of Kallen breaks out of there herself, and steals the Guren on her own.

I didn't forget, because it was supposed to be a list of which people might help her escape, not a list of ways she might possibly escape

[NettoSaito]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

I didn't forget, because it was supposed to be a list of which people might help her escape, not a list of ways she might possibly escape

lol yeah, there is always that chance that she will get out on her own.

[bladeofdarkness]

i liked the sound of anya getting anti geassed
not so much in having to do with kallen escaping as in finally finding out what is up with her