2008-11-13, 16:42 | Link #3601 |
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I'd say he deserved both some measure of happiness and some measure of punishment. He did plenty of good for the world, but he did alot of crappy things to do it; I think he should pay a penence, just not one that would make him absolutely destitute and miserable.
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2008-11-13, 16:48 | Link #3603 | |
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At any rate, "Life is pain. Anyone who says different is selling something." (I probably should have used the word penence rather than punishment in the first place. It's probably more applicable here.)
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2008-11-13, 16:52 | Link #3604 | |||
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2008-11-13, 17:15 | Link #3605 | ||
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Lelouch needed to be punished for the thousands that died due to Geass so he wouldn't be like his father. Charles had millions die so that his plans could work, but he didn't want himself, Marianne, Lelouch, or Nunnaly to die, he didn't even care that Euphemia died. Quote:
Most people would see that as Confirmation of Lelouch and C.C, and see Lelouch getting eternal life, as Eternal happiness with C.C for all the good he did. It was much shorter, and much easier to have Lelouch die, and show that as a punishment, then try the upscale battle of having Lelouch live, and show that as a punishment. Even if they have ten episodes they probably couldn't do it. I mean look at how many people where pissed of at Rossiu living, and Rossiu didn't even kill a single person. |
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2008-11-13, 17:19 | Link #3606 | |
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2008-11-13, 17:20 | Link #3607 |
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People were pissed off at Rossiu because he was willing to leave countless people behind on the earth, all of whom were desperate as ever to escape the Anti-Spiral menace. Or something like that. Eh, some just saw him as an uncaring bastard both for that, and for him locking up Simon. But I digress.
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2008-11-13, 17:40 | Link #3608 | ||
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2008-11-13, 17:42 | Link #3609 |
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I still don't see the point in punishing Lelouch, but maybe I'm just too much of an amoral person.
I mean, punishment only makes sense if you want someone to realize their mistakes so that they won't repeat them - otherwise, it's nothing more than petty revenge. Lelouch knew that he made mistakes. It's all right with me if he feels the need to atone for his so-calles sins, but I still think what he truly deserved was happiness. |
2008-11-13, 17:51 | Link #3610 | |
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So? That makes his mistakes justified? No. Lulu knew he did shit, he was anti-hero. In the end he chose to atone for his sins while giving the world the chance to start from the beginning. {though that was TOO FAR idealistic from the creators but anyway} |
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2008-11-13, 17:54 | Link #3611 | |
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Justification doesn't matter to me.
Lelouch made mistakes, yes, but punishing him for them won't bring back the dead. Quote:
He thought so, yes, but no one gained anything from his guilt. Well, they did, but if it wasn't for Zero Requiem, punishing him would have been pointless. |
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2008-11-13, 18:05 | Link #3612 | |
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But he did deserve punishment, he killed a lot of people whether you like it or not. Being the Lulu-worshipper i am, i did not want him to be punished but it was the right thing to happen. Of course i would not mind an ending with Lulu alive, hell i would pay Taniguchi to have him alive in the end but the fact that he chose his own death makes me content. |
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2008-11-13, 18:17 | Link #3613 | ||
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Why was it "right"? Because he wasn't a saint? Because people died because of him? I know that, but I still don't see the point in "punishing" him. There's no logical reason for it. Yes, I can see why Lelouch thought he needed to redeem himself by dying. But why should I agree with him? Punishing someone without the purpose of keeping him from repeating his mistake seems rather petty to me. It's like saying: "He did bad things, he just can't get away with that, even though he deeply regrets his actions already! Because... because he was bad!" Quote:
But I don't feel that Lelouch deserved punishment. I only admire his selfish sacrifice. |
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2008-11-13, 18:56 | Link #3614 | |
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"Crime and Punishment" It finds you whether you want it or not. A lot of circumstances forced Lulu to do the shit he did and he knew he was no saint and that is why he chose the end he chose. "Deserving" or "not deserving" it is up to one's POV i guess. |
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2008-11-13, 19:40 | Link #3616 | |
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Britannia isn't some evil country, theirs no such thing as an evil country. Its only leaders that are evil, Lelouch never hated the land or its people, he hated the rulers. |
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2008-11-13, 19:43 | Link #3617 | |
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He hates power and those who wield it over the weak. He'd have to spend the rest of his life dismantling a system of Apartheid and Noble Priviledge while re-educating the country's elite to protect the weak rather than abuse them. No matter what, he'd never be able to return to being Lelouch Lamporouge. |
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2008-11-13, 19:48 | Link #3618 | |
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2008-11-13, 19:58 | Link #3619 | |
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Lelouch hates power and those who wield it, but he did, and will do that for what he sees as the good of the world. Once again that is not a punishment, that is a reward Congragulations Lelouch, you have killed thousands of people, brainwashed hundreds more, and now your the Emperor of the most powerful nation on Earth. |
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2008-11-13, 20:06 | Link #3620 | |
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