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Vocaloid · 2010-07-25, 01:35

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Originally Posted by SilentOutlaw

Reading some of the comments on the blog, apparently they thought it was gonna be about girls fighting to Vocaloid tunes.

The PVs fooled us all...
Speaking of the PVs...so many scenes must have been re-edited or cut out completely.

ElizLestrad · 2010-07-25, 01:44

Yeah, I was kinda disappointed that they didnt at least have an instrumental or remix of the BRS song, but it was alright.

I would have liked to have seen a bit more explination and character depth, especially between BRS and Dead Master. But ah well. Hopefully they'll do more with this because the concept does have a lot of potential (I think anyways)

technomo12 · 2010-07-25, 01:50

though one thing is made original

THEY ARE ALL "AA" or "A" cup breast!! YEAH!!! LOVE THE orginal FORM

even small breast has a large potential to be sexy

Key Board · 2010-07-25, 01:52

There is no established plot or lore or universe in Black Rock Shooter. Aside from the illustrations
all other content is fan created. This not like Touhou where at least some kind of background is
prepared for each characters.

Because there is no canon established, it puzzles me how can anyone have any kind of
expectations at all for the anime

BRS itself was a series of pretty illustrations made famous by a Vocaloid song

That being said, I liked the episode. It requires you to suspend your disbelief at the end, however.

idiffer · 2010-07-25, 01:55

i'm not into the whole vocaloid mania. so it was very boring for me. i guess the action scenes were okay, but not more than that.

SilverSyko · 2010-07-25, 02:10

I'm glad I decided to give this a chance. While not what I was expecting it's probably better that way cause I was expecting things I wouldn't be completely happy with.

Spoiler for Just in case...:

Kudryavka · 2010-07-25, 02:17

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Originally Posted by SilverSyko

Spoiler for spoilermaybe:

Spoiler for spoiler maybe:

Hypernova · 2010-07-25, 02:48

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Originally Posted by idiffer

i'm not into the whole vocaloid mania. so it was very boring for me. i guess the action scenes were okay, but not more than that.

I'm not into vocaloid too but I just accept it as a yuri story and was ok with it.

Ichijo · 2010-07-25, 03:21

After seeing trailers I thought it's going to be a badass magical girl show. About in the middle of the show I thought that it's going to have a twist like Noein and almost expected the otherworld to be a post-apocalipse Earth.

But it was a metaphor? This twist feels lazy.

technomo12 · 2010-07-25, 04:21

one thing that never ever change

YURI = WIN

Stanelis · 2010-07-25, 04:44

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i'm not into the whole vocaloid mania. so it was very boring for me. i guess the action scenes were okay, but not more than that.

Sadly, This OAV is 100 % unrelated to vocaloids.

LoweGear · 2010-07-25, 04:49

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Originally Posted by idiffer

i'm not into the whole vocaloid mania. so it was very boring for me. i guess the action scenes were okay, but not more than that.

The OVA isn't really about Vocaloids in the first place though

As for the OVA itself... I watched it for the awesome action scenes, but stayed because somehow, I was actually able to relate to Yomi's situation somewhat (my personal experience was under different circumstances though). Also, Mato is too cute

It does feel... incomplete though. Like it's begging to be extended into a 12 episode series or something, especially since we still don't know what the deal is with the other Black characters

felix · 2010-07-25, 05:00

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

I've seen it, and I thought it was outstanding. Subtle and complete. I don't want the dots connected. That would cheapen the overall effect.

+1 to this.

And I would use "totally fuck it up" instead of "cheapen" there.
When exactly was a anime that connected the dots ever good?

ps. we need more Mato bad hair day moments!

Sol Falling · 2010-07-25, 05:06

omg, this was yuri? I totally didn't expect that. Anyway, the ending didn't turn out as epic as I had hoped but this thing had me leaking tears within 20 minutes, that's worth something. That's really worth something for me, actually. I totally don't regret randomly checking this out.

As for the story, uh, doesn't actually seem like a metaphor or anything like that to me. As I understand it, aside from the random sequences with the red and yellow girl, it's actually just a pretty straightforward chronologically interleaved story. First the real world stuff with Mato and Yomi happens. Then Mato becomes (yes becomes, meaning she goes to the other world) B*RS via the power of the two cell-phone pendants and goes on some long journey--i.e., next all the otherworld stuff minus the random segments with the red and yellow girls happens. As shown in those scenes, B*RS then actually succeeds in saving/beating green girl/otherworld!Yomi and exorcises that evil spirit thing, so that Yomi returns to her real world self. B*RS/Mato subsequently escapes the crumbling castle and returns to the real world, where resumption of their every day life leads up to Yuu getting jealous after the credits.

Presumably that latter is meant to lead to a sequel/new episode where the random evil power possesses Yuu too and Mato/B*RS has to return to the otherworld. That honestly sounds kinda annoying though, 'cause we haven't really been given any reason to care about Yuu, and the other world actually doesn't really seem too interesting without some meaningful motivation for being in there.

In any case, I'm such a damn sucker for tragic yuri friendship stories though. I really enjoyed this for the most part. They had all the classic jealousy, separation, longing, fighting and searching for etc. stuff, and the beginning with the budding friendship stuff was just plain amazing particularly.

**Klashikari** · 2010-07-25, 05:12

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Originally Posted by Key Board

There is no established plot or lore or universe in Black Rock Shooter. Aside from the illustrations
all other content is fan created. This not like Touhou where at least some kind of background is
prepared for each characters.

Because there is no canon established, it puzzles me how can anyone have any kind of
expectations at all for the anime

That's exactly the point: because there was no lore presented regarding BRS universe, that medium for BRS was the perfect opportunity for Huke to set it.
If there wasn't any true lore in Huke's mind, then, there wouldn't have any cohesion at all in the arts, MAD nor in the anime. And you have to admit there was already an established atmosphere which remained consistent between the arts and the MAD, which is more than "original characters being drawn".

The setup is obviously present when you factor all the media together. The problem is how the anime is basically very stingy regarding the said setup.

@Kaoru Shujo / Cats
"Connecting the dots" wasn't all about the presentation of the story at hand. More like: a lot of things were left completely unexplained (such like the cellphone straps, BRS world and whatever). Aside, by the end of the OVA, it is pretty simple to understand how the different sequences were tied together, but the background itself was basically laid bare to the strict minimum.
I don't even think it would be possible for that kind of story to be cheapen / ruined just because few elements are explained further.

Kudryavka · 2010-07-25, 05:30

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Originally Posted by Sol Falling

omg, this was yuri?

Who said this? ಠ_ಠ

Can two girls be friends without being accused of being lovers?

If not, then I'm scared now.

SilverSyko · 2010-07-25, 05:33

Yeesh, so many people looking too deep into the characters' relationship and giving it yuri-ish overtones.

Seriously, can't they just be really really close friends? ^^; (Nakamashipping 4eva)

Personally I don't like bringing romantic relationships into series' where it's not intended to be implied, but that's just me.

felix · 2010-07-25, 05:33

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Originally Posted by Komari

Can two girls be friends without being accused of being lovers?

Only when there are 3 girls. And we have 3 girls...

Unless/Until two of them kiss its all just good friendship anyway, no matter what anyone tells you.

Kudryavka · 2010-07-25, 05:34

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Originally Posted by felix

Only when there are 3 girls. And we have 3 girls...

Oh no.

People, you act like they were giving each other lovey dovey looks or something. I guess you're not familiar with female relationships, some girls like saying "I love you (because you metaphorically saved my life)".

Shiroth · 2010-07-25, 05:35

It felt like i was watching two separate films until that last scene which tied the two together. Would have liked to see a lot more of the BRS world then what we got, though overall i'm fine with the full package that was given. Wouldn't mind more though in the future.

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SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	I'm glad I decided to give this a chance. While not what I was expecting it's probably better that way cause I was expecting things I wouldn't be completely happy with. Spoiler for Just in case...: It's pretty easy to understand what the deal between the characters is and what connections they have after watching this now. I never factored Yuu before into being a reason depression would overcome Yomi and make her Dead Master. Though one thing kinda stuck out at me, it seemed kinda strange for Mato to be so intrigued by Yomi at the beginning. It's not really natural for someone to just have a feeling wash over them that says "Hey, I'm gonna be friends with that person!" Maybe I'm thinking too much though. Strength's presence seemed totally uneccecary, but I guess they needed to show somehow that Yuu was a factor in all that was happening. As for the scene after the credits, this could definetly forshadow a continuation, but I find it kinda silly that if one of Mato's friends isn't getting any acknowledgement they get all emo. xD; Also, Black Gold Saw = pointless? I hope not. Could be forshadowing I suppose. __________________

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Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	omg, this was yuri? I totally didn't expect that. Anyway, the ending didn't turn out as epic as I had hoped but this thing had me leaking tears within 20 minutes, that's worth something. That's really worth something for me, actually. I totally don't regret randomly checking this out. As for the story, uh, doesn't actually seem like a metaphor or anything like that to me. As I understand it, aside from the random sequences with the red and yellow girl, it's actually just a pretty straightforward chronologically interleaved story. First the real world stuff with Mato and Yomi happens. Then Mato becomes (yes becomes, meaning she goes to the other world) BRS via the power of the two cell-phone pendants and goes on some long journey--i.e., next all the otherworld stuff minus the random segments with the red and yellow girls happens. As shown in those scenes, BRS then actually succeeds in saving/beating green girl/otherworld!Yomi and exorcises that evil spirit thing, so that Yomi returns to her real world self. BRS/Mato subsequently escapes the crumbling castle and returns to the real world, where resumption of their every day life leads up to Yuu getting jealous after the credits. Presumably that latter is meant to lead to a sequel/new episode where the random evil power possesses Yuu too and Mato/BRS has to return to the otherworld. That honestly sounds kinda annoying though, 'cause we haven't really been given any reason to care about Yuu, and the other world actually doesn't really seem too interesting without some meaningful motivation for being in there. In any case, I'm such a damn sucker for tragic yuri friendship stories though. I really enjoyed this for the most part. They had all the classic jealousy, separation, longing, fighting and searching for etc. stuff, and the beginning with the budding friendship stuff was just plain amazing particularly. Last edited by Sol Falling; 2010-07-25 at 05:19.

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SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	Yeesh, so many people looking too deep into the characters' relationship and giving it yuri-ish overtones. Seriously, can't they just be really really close friends? ^^; (Nakamashipping 4eva) Personally I don't like bringing romantic relationships into series' where it's not intended to be implied, but that's just me. __________________

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Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	It felt like i was watching two separate films until that last scene which tied the two together. Would have liked to see a lot more of the BRS world then what we got, though overall i'm fine with the full package that was given. Wouldn't mind more though in the future. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2010-07-25, 01:44	Link #362
ElizLestrad Member Join Date: Oct 2007	Yeah, I was kinda disappointed that they didnt at least have an instrumental or remix of the BRS song, but it was alright. I would have liked to have seen a bit more explination and character depth, especially between BRS and Dead Master. But ah well. Hopefully they'll do more with this because the concept does have a lot of potential (I think anyways)

2010-07-25, 01:50	Link #363
technomo12 Wise Otaku Seeker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philippines Age: 34	though one thing is made original THEY ARE ALL "AA" or "A" cup breast!! YEAH!!! LOVE THE orginal FORM even small breast has a large potential to be sexy

2010-07-25, 01:52	Link #364
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	There is no established plot or lore or universe in Black Rock Shooter. Aside from the illustrations all other content is fan created. This not like Touhou where at least some kind of background is prepared for each characters. Because there is no canon established, it puzzles me how can anyone have any kind of expectations at all for the anime BRS itself was a series of pretty illustrations made famous by a Vocaloid song That being said, I liked the episode. It requires you to suspend your disbelief at the end, however.

2010-07-25, 03:21	Link #369
Ichijo Member Join Date: Jan 2010	After seeing trailers I thought it's going to be a badass magical girl show. About in the middle of the show I thought that it's going to have a twist like Noein and almost expected the otherworld to be a post-apocalipse Earth. But it was a metaphor? This twist feels lazy.

2010-07-25, 04:21	Link #370
technomo12 Wise Otaku Seeker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philippines Age: 34	one thing that never ever change YURI = WIN