What's with all this Orihime hate?

[asam_laksa]

Originally Posted by Hari Michiru

LOL, times have changed. I now hate Ichigo too much to ship for a pairing that includes him. =) He has that annoying hero complex, doesn't use his brains, and is just the typical macho-type guy. >>"

Yeah, you hate Ichigo.....so much so that you can't help but to participate in that IchiHime vs IchiKiai debate thread, saying that.....what is it....bet blind IchiHime shippers would try to defeat your points.

I totally thnk the reasons for you hating Orihime because of her annoying voice, her insecurities, her heavy rely on other people (or not relying on others...according to some fans)......are a valid reasons. ::thumbsup::

I like them too.

[Hari Michiru]

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

Yeah, you hate Ichigo.....so much so that you can't help but to participate in that IchiHime vs IchiKiai debate thread, saying that.....what is it....bet blind IchiHime shippers would try to defeat your points.

I totally thnk the reasons for you hating Orihime because of her annoying voice, her insecurities, her heavy rely on other people (or not relying on others...according to some fans)......are a valid reasons. ::thumbsup::

I like them too.

What's wrong with not supporting both pairings but attacking the Ichihime pairing? I have my rights as a human being too.

I dislike Orihime. Deal with it.

I have no idea what I did to offend you, but I'd like it if you'd get off my case.

[asam_laksa]

Did I not say.....

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

I totally think the reasons for you hating Orihime because of her annoying voice, her insecurities, her heavy rely on other people (or not relying on others...according to some fans)......are valid reasons. ::thumbsup::

I like them too.

I dislike Rukia too, mainly because of how she contradicts whatever she say in a short matter of time.....not because she's an emo, tomboy, rude, bossy type.

But unlike others, I understand that Kubo Tite made her to be like that, contradicting everything she said earlier, so as to propel the story forward. That's why I don't bash her for that trivial matters, especially since she's a 'fictional character'.....except maybe despise Kubo Tite for creating Rukia the way that she shouldn't be.

Orihime? I like her for her big boobs, her weird peculior food preference, her happy-go-lucky type when she talks about food, her wild imaginations, her smile, etc. But her 'love' for Ichigo.....yes I despise Kubo Tite for making it be.

[BleachOD]

Originally Posted by asam_laksa

So, how different is a Mary Sue and a saint?


I don't hate you, I just feel sorry for your well-being.....that's why I don't want to try to aggravate the matter by responding to any of your post anymore.

Maybe, you should try to keep yourself from being 'hated' by Orihime shippers, by trying to tone down your shit over Orihime? You already know that you would be hated by Orihime shippers for hating Orihime......but you still keep doing it. Isn't that asking trouble for yourself?

As for the other person, well,.....since he claimed that he's never going to respond my post anymore.....even if I want to reply him.....to show how silly he could be, all the time......I think I rather let him try to keep his vow of not responding to me.

On another note, I like how annoying it is, the anime potray Rukia saying 'Ichigo, Ichigo, Ichigo", big doe-eyed, doing nothing when Ichigo fighting with Captain Amagai. It took a weaker person to stop the fight. And I marvelled at her attempt to fend off Captain SoiFon while Ichigo goes for Lulichiyo before.

Er.....I never respond to yours. I said one thing to you and that's it. You weren't in the equation. I will dislike who I dislike...I don't care if they are mad I just want them to be mad for the right reasons not wrong ones. ..I still hate her...Hope she dies.

I am hated? Lol...it doesn't seem like it.... I am merely diliked by some...but loved by most<--that's a joke you know... What can I say...I grow on people

[- HEROiNEx]

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Maybe I'm just totally insane, but I don't get why everyones jumping on the bandwagin for hating Orihime. I mean, I know there's a difference between like disliking her from the start and then just starting to hate her later on. And I'm not going to be biased or rude or anything toward those people, because each to their own. But I've met so-so-so many people who are just starting to hate her because more and more people just have more things to complain about.

I mean Inoue Orhime is probably... one of the only refreshing character that I've felt any sort of connection too other than Rukia -- which is the way its supposed to be, I would think. I mean, I think the whole point of Orihime is to allow people to feel connected to someone who feels a little hopeless.

Spoiler for For the manga:

I do think that Orihime tried really hard to get to Rukia, since I heard people thought she didn't in HM. I don't think she tried.. as hard as she could've, no. But when Orihime felt it, she whispered her name and got extremely worried from what I remember. If you remember Rukia was helping Orihime to train and was giving her encouragement to have the strength to protect her "nakama". Rukia, chad, Ishidai, Ichigo, ect. Are all her nakama, obviously. Going to Aizen to HER was protecting her nakama. She could've struggled, yes. But she's a soft-spoken, lonely pacifist. She didn't cry to Matsumoto for absolutely no reason. .___.; Sure, it might be overly done, but in the end... I think that Orihime will always serve her purpose.

I don't think that Orihime should be judged or disliked because of how she feels toward Ichigo. I mean, someone who feels... so lonely would obviously feel very clingy to the one person who she may think can end her sadness, right? And, she always tries her hardest to be "strong" but sometimes it just doesn't work. I'm going to out on a limb and say she was brave, for letting out her feelings TO him, although he wasn't conscious. Even so ~ I think that Orihime may be a little weak, but thats what makes her an aspiring character. Because although she loves Ichigo, sometimes love just isn't enough, and she might have to learn that the hard way. Which is what makes ME like her. Because her "innocence" is fresh and brazen and makes her all the more likeable when she does become strong and prove her worth.

Thats just my honest opinion though.
rofl. My first post here too! <33
I hope it wasn't bad. .__.;

[The_Three_Kings]

she can never fight for herself, she really needs to toughen up, like Chad and Uryu did.

[Mr. DJ]

maybe if she had more offensive powers than defensive...

[- HEROiNEx]

maybe if she had more offensive powers than defensive...

Spoiler for Manga:

... xD Orihime can control the universe, yo.
I think that works in either which case she wants it too
rejecting the existence of something, is a serious power to have.
When in doubt, that is when her powers don't work. Thats why she doesn't have serious offensive
She can only have amazing offensive when she's angry and fueled with the confidence to fight, like when Ulquoirra first came. She was determined but Tsubaki was injured so it didn't work as well as she wanted it too, and that is why she ended up getting hurt and feeling weak.

Orihime can use her powers to reject fate. If she wills something to have never happened, or she wills something to happen, she can use her Shun Shun Rikka Clips to make that happen. But I don't think that's something she's realized UNTIL Aizen said so. She doesn't fully understand what she can do yet. So its not fair to say that she has no offensive. She just thinks that all she can do is protect, because she's not strong enough.

But i'm waiting for the day when Orihime gets so pissed she kills someone in like two seconds. xD 'cause THAT would be amazing.

Tite Kubo just better not be an idiot and not use Orihimes powers to his advantage. Why have such a powerful character and never use her when it can really-really count.

Go Orihime! <3

[Hari Michiru]

Originally Posted by - HEROiNEx

Spoiler for Manga:

... xD Orihime can control the universe, yo.
I think that works in either which case she wants it too
rejecting the existence of something, is a serious power to have.
When in doubt, that is when her powers don't work. Thats why she doesn't have serious offensive
She can only have amazing offensive when she's angry and fueled with the confidence to fight, like when Ulquoirra first came. She was determined but Tsubaki was injured so it didn't work as well as she wanted it too, and that is why she ended up getting hurt and feeling weak.

Orihime can use her powers to reject fate. If she wills something to have never happened, or she wills something to happen, she can use her Shun Shun Rikka Clips to make that happen. But I don't think that's something she's realized UNTIL Aizen said so. She doesn't fully understand what she can do yet. So its not fair to say that she has no offensive. She just thinks that all she can do is protect, because she's not strong enough.

But i'm waiting for the day when Orihime gets so pissed she kills someone in like two seconds. xD 'cause THAT would be amazing.

Tite Kubo just better not be an idiot and not use Orihimes powers to his advantage. Why have such a powerful character and never use her when it can really-really count.

Go Orihime! <3

Scenario: Orihime gets pissed at Aizen and finally snaps at him, and erases him from existance.

That is when I'll start liking Orihime.

[BleachOD]

Originally Posted by Hari Michiru

Scenario: Orihime gets pissed at Aizen and finally snaps at him, and erases him from existance.

That is when I'll start liking Orihime.

I'd hate her even more if she did that...You do not erase eye-candy!

[Captain Yoruichi]

Don't really like her, don't really hate her.

She was ok at first but then she got annoying during the SS arc with her constant self-doubt about whether or not she was a help to everyone. She has this mindset that because she doesn't have a sword or bow, that she's not as valuable, and that mindset is really annoying. How many people would have died or lost limbs if Orihime didn't heal them? She underestimates herself. I hope after the HM arc she comes to realize that she has her own unique powers and that she doesn't need to be like Rukia or Renji or Ishida or Chad or Ichigo in order to help in their fight.

[Ichigo&Rukia]

On another note, I like how annoying it is, the anime potray Rukia saying 'Ichigo, Ichigo, Ichigo", big doe-eyed, doing nothing when Ichigo fighting with Captain Amagai. It took a weaker person to stop the fight. And I marvelled at her attempt to fend off Captain SoiFon while Ichigo goes for Lulichiyo before.

You are so funny with using these fillers. God, you are trying to prove a point by something not done by Kubo. Go on and soon nobody will answer you.
The difference is, Orihime does that in MANGA, Rukia never does.
Orihime may have powers of God but she lacks resolve, she lacks determination, fighting spirit which is even more important.
Besides, she is weak in attacking strenght and someone who can't attack is not a good fighter, sorry. She can't use Tsubaki properly.

[- HEROiNEx]

Orihime may have powers of God but she lacks resolve, she lacks determination, fighting spirit which is even more important.

She is weak in attacking strength because she's not someone who gets angry. Tsubaki fuels off her emotions, and if she doesn't have anger or the will to hurt at that moment, then it wouldn't work, obviously. That is why many don't like Orihime, because she doesn't blame others for the faults she finds within her own life -- because she's not selfish. She's very selfless, and that's her problem. She needs to take the time out and think about herself, for perhaps maybe even once. She thinks about everyone else first, before thinking about herself.

Besides, she is weak in attacking strenght and someone who can't attack is not a good fighter, sorry. She can't use Tsubaki properly

And thats not true at all. Orihime does have the will to fight, if she didn't she wouldn't have bothered letting Rukia help her. Rukia, herself, knows that Orihime is a great fighter, and a great friend and wants to see her help out. Fighting is never just offensive hitting. Its all about strategy. If Orihime could just let her emotions out instead of bottling them up for the majority of the time, she could definitely be a real good defensive and offensive. Just because someone plays the defensive in a fight, doesn't mean they aren't a good fighter. To me, fighting has always been about defending yourself and striking when you can. Maybe in a one on one fight Orihime would probably come off as a not-so-great opponent, but when in a group, Orihime would be VITAL.

Sure, she might not be able to be on the front lines until she masters all her abilities, but if Unohana is considered one of the best, I don't understand why Orihime automatically takes a back seat.

[Ichigo&Rukia]

She is weak in attacking strength because she's not someone who gets angry

Do you call having resolve "getting" angry because there is difference.
Also, determination and fighting spirit may be important but abilities also are. Take the Yammy fight for instance. She had resolve, she got angry at Yammy for hurting her friends and almost killing Chad and Tatsuki but Tsubaki still didn't work.

Tsubaki fuels off her emotions, and if she doesn't have anger or the will to hurt at that moment, then it wouldn't work, obviously. That is why many don't like Orihime, because she doesn't blame others for the faults she finds within her own life -- because she's not selfish.

It is true Tsubaki comes from her heart but you miss the fact there was already a situation of her friends being hurt and Hime getting angry and Tsubaki couldn't do what she wanted.
Yes, I do dislike Orihime for her being so undetermined but it is not just because she is self-sacrificing.
If she wanted to help everyone else that much, why they hell doesn't she try? She is always like "Gonna change" and the next moment she is behind someone and this someone is protecting her *_* This is annoying, like a circle who never stops and it is tiresome. This is her flaw and a character without flaws can never be interesting. But her falws are not acceptable because she didn't get over them for the time the other characters did. Her developement took too much time, it annoyed people and I understand them.

And thats not true at all. Orihime does have the will to fight, if she didn't she wouldn't have bothered letting Rukia help her.

Training with her means she wants to change but when she goes on the battlefield she doesn't do anything.
As for what fighting you think is right, it comes to opinion, I will drop it.

[Amray]

People, you have to remember that she is still just an adolescent girl. Any teenager with this on their shoulders would find it hard to simply just "toughen up" and adapt. In Hellsing Seras Victoria went through the same thing when becoming a vampire but everyone loved her, and I doubt that it was just her big breasts either because Orihime has them too. She has done better than what some other girls would do in this situation. Other girls would either ignore this power, or abuse it by doing stupid and pointless stuff. Maybe even lock themselves away, sulk in a corner and say "uuugh, I'm a freak! What is happening to me!?!", and then start using self-harming techniques. That is realistically speaking ofcourse.

Originally Posted by The_Three_Kings

she can never fight for herself, she really needs to toughen up, like Chad and Uryu did.

She was one awesome loli. XD

[Ichigo&Rukia]

People, you have to remember that she is still just an adolescent girl. Any teenager with this on their shoulders would find it hard to simply just "toughen up" and adapt.

This is WAR, in real wars people are usually forced to change, even teenagers and they DO change. The argument that because of her age she is sooo wonderful is weak, because Ichigo also is and he looks way more mature than Orihime and way stronger.
Not to mention the fact the situation demands changing and maturing.

In Hellsing Seras Victoria went through the same thing when becoming a vampire but everyone loved her, and I doubt that it was just her big breasts either because Orihime has them too. She has done better than what some other girls would do in this situation. Other girls would either ignore this power, or abuse it by doing stupid and pointless stuff. Maybe even lock themselves away, sulk in a corner and say "uuugh, I'm a freak! What is happening to me!?!", and then start using self-harming techniques.

These girls wouldn't be very old or mature.
And there are some girls who would have done better than Hime as well.
I can't see the reason of her being weak because she has support..

[Amray]

Originally Posted by Ichigo&Rukia

This is WAR, in real wars people are usually forced to change, even teenagers and they DO change. The argument that because of her age she is sooo wonderful is weak, because Ichigo also is and he looks way more mature than Orihime and way stronger.
Not to mention the fact the situation demands changing and maturing.

Yes I can see your point, although remember that they are individual characters with their own thoughts and feelings. Ofcourse if you compare Orihime to Ichigo she is going to look weak. Ichigo is some crazy and stubborn teenager with lots of potential and spirit energy from birth, not to mention a sword that takes the size as if it were modeled after the titanic. The only way you can get to him is if you throw his mother into the conversation, then he will flop to his knees. Orihime is a quiet, clumsy and gentle girl that has many soft spots, and also happens to be traveling with one of the people that triggers them.

Originally Posted by Ichigo&Rukia

These girls wouldn't be very old or mature.
And there are some girls who would have done better than Hime as well.
I can't see the reason of her being weak because she has support..

Yes, I was going to state in my last post that Tatsuki probably would've done a lot better, but I forgot so you will have to exuse me. Haha, to be honest I have no idea why I am backing Orihime up anyway. I'm not even into big breasts. ^-^;

[- HEROiNEx]

I just lost my post TWICE.
I'm not going to bother pinpointing everything out anymore, because its annoying that everytime I finish it gets erased. Anyway; about the whole Yammy thing. That wasn't Orihimes fault, because Tsubaki was injured and only Hachigen could fix him, which was after the fight. So, I don't really think its fair to use that against her. As for the rest, I've already talked about it, and I'm not in the mood to re-say it ( not that it matters, because you're just stating your opinion ). Just after losing it twice, its annoyin to do it again.

[Amray]

You'll have to exuse me. I don't often post in the Bleach section and as if I am going to read 20 pages of Orihime flaming just to see what has been said and what has not. Oh well, this is only how I see Orihime anyway, I do not see why anyone else should care as my own thoughts are always absolute by my own standards.

People can tamper and quote with my views as much as they want, they will not change them. ^_^

[- HEROiNEx]

That's very admirable of you, Amray~

nwn No one should be try to change anyones views, I don't try too, I just state my opinion as bluntly as I can. I wasn't telling you to look through 20 pages of Flaming Orihime though, I actually wasn't talking to you at all. Since, my first post was actually on this very page, you wouldn't need to look far even if I was telling you to search. I don't expect anyone to search, its just my computer ate my response to Ichigo&Rukia two times in the span of like.. 20 minutes or so.

Got a little annoying, so I gave up. That was all I was saying.