History`s Strongest Disciple Kenichi (Shijou Saikyou no Deshi Kenichi)

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Somehow I doubt Jenazad's going to change his mind and make Kenichi his disciple, not after all the trouble he's caused him. An even if he tried, he wouldn't live long enough to put such a plan into action, Hayato would catch him and reduce him to paste with his full power. Last time it was a battle of ideals, this time it's personal, and Jenazad's all alone now.

I don't think is impossible..and actually Kenichi surprised the Demon two time in two page..the Demon actually don't know Kenichi real strength, and maybe after see Kenichi like this, he change his mind and want Kenichi to..however, like you said, there is no time for it..Hongo and Sakaki are going to stop him..or the Elder..

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

I seriously doubt his masters will allow that, they're trying to prevent Kenichi from becoming another Saiga. If he does start going down the dark path, I expect him to be booted out of Ryozanpaku, literally. Where would he go from there? Do you really think YAMI would accept him, and vice versa? How would he explain this to Shinpaku? Or his family? To me it just seems quite implausible at the moment.

The problem, isn't the fact that his master will allow that, the problem is if Kenichi see Miu be injured badly, maybe he go to kill..this is the real issue,this is how i make a comparison between Saiga and Kenichi..for protect someone important to their...however, this is the wrost scenario possible...i don't think Matsuena go in this way.

[Xaturas]

Originally Posted by Merilyn Mensola

I don't think is impossible..and actually Kenichi surprised the Demon two time in two page..the Demon actually don't know Kenichi real strength, and maybe after see Kenichi like this, he change his mind and want Kenichi to..however, like you said, there is no time for it..Hongo and Sakaki are going to stop him..or the Elder..





The problem, isn't the fact that his master will allow that, the problem is if Kenichi see Miu be injured badly, maybe he go to kill..this is the real issue,this is how i make a comparison between Saiga and Kenichi..for protect someone important to their...however, this is the wrost scenario possible...i don't think Matsuena go in this way.

As far as I remember Saiga is Miu's father right? Then he you know killed his wife, at least thats how I remember it.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Xaturas

As far as I remember Saiga is Miu's father right? Then he you know killed his wife, at least thats how I remember it.

True, Saiga is Miu father and Killed his wife..but first, he Killed someone when he was fighting to protect his friends and maybe his wife,..after this Saiga changed, become bad,and kill even his wife..so, Kenichi-Saiga comparison isn't impossible..but Is obviou that the mangaka can't go in this way..

[Franckie]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

I seriously doubt his masters will allow that, they're trying to prevent Kenichi from becoming another Saiga. If he does start going down the dark path, I expect him to be booted out of Ryozanpaku, literally. Where would he go from there? Do you really think YAMI would accept him, and vice versa? How would he explain this to Shinpaku? Or his family? To me it just seems quite implausible at the moment.

What his masters and his family wish for are irrevelent. What is important is the blatant foreshadowing about the danger of Kenichi succumbing to the Satsujinken philosophy as have Ogata, Mikumo, Saiga, and possibly even Tsutomu Tanaka. Going back to the status quo doesn't lead to any developments. Kenichi, on the other hand, at least thinking of killing someone - possibly to defend Miu - leads to actual development. Keep in mind too Mikumo's involvement has yet to be explained.

Look at where we are in the story. Yami is on the defensive. Silcardo will be gone after this arc; that's 3 of the Nine Fists that will have been sent to Big Lock. Also, the information the Shinpaku Alliance has on Yami is on the verge of being decoded. Yami is going to lose what little hold of Japan they have left. Furthermore, their patrons will be forced into limelight, allowing law enforcement around the world to dismantle the organization. Miu is starting to shake-off her brainwashing and will go back to normal once she leaves the island with Kenichi. Yomi? Who cares. Only Kajima is important at this point in the story.

What could possibly go wrong?

Everything. We're on the verge of approaching the point in the story where the bad guys go on the offensive instead of enduring their losing streak which has lasted for, what, several hundred chapters? Saiga is on the move and is aware of what has happened to his daughter. Miu going back with Kenichi is a return to the status quo. Miu being kidnapped (again) would spark development and would act as a catalyst for the darkening times that lie ahead as outlined by the "Eternal Sunset". Yami and the Kuremisago are on the verge of some global plan and it cannot come to fruition as long as Ryozanpaku are around. Its guaranteed Yami will pull some muscle to force them to scatter as they did in a previous arc and the information that the Shinpaku Alliance is decoding will probably end up useless. Oh, and one of Kenichi's Masters are scheduled to die in the near future.

Otherwise Kenichi and the Shinpaku Alliance are pointless to the story. There is no merit in Kenichi and his friends getting involved if his masters do the actual work for the last half of the series.

Originally Posted by Merilyn Mensola

Spoiler:

Mmmm..i don't think this arc is pointless because of this..

i think maybe that this arc,could be written more better for me,like i said in my previous post, if Kenichi was going to fight Miu seriously..because imho,would be interesting see a real fight between Miu and Kenichi..but if Matsuena don't make Kenichi fight Miu, even if her kill him and go to the darkness, is a bit illogical for me..

He put another disciple to complete Miu, in this way, he put Kenichi fight to protect Miu, and try to not make her kill..the issue is how Matsuena is going to finish it..

If kenichi is going to be like dead because the psychopath guy cut him..Miu is going to kill.

If Kenichi is going to make a good fight and win, Miu regain her memory while watching the fight.

If Kenichi has a trouble maybe Miu while regain her memory,go in the fight and help Kenichi without killing

If Miu is going to be hit really badly, Kenichi probably go out of mind, and isn't impossible that his start to go crazy and try to kill..

So, look like,there are many way to go...however..i hope that only when the fight is over, Hongo and co show up, i don't want anyone stop this fight.

This arc is completely pointless if Mikumo doesn't get what she wants. Remember that she is the one who suggested Miu to Silcardo, which in turn led to this arc. Silcardo being defeated, Miu's brainwashing being undone, everyone returning home, etc. is just a return to the status quo and lousy writing.

The probable scenario is that she is arranging for circumstances to shove Kenichi down the path of the Satsujinken as was the case with her. Silcardo is (in)famous in the organization for his ill-treatment of disciples, and Miu is Kenichi's lifeline. What happens if that lifeline is removed? Kenichi would become susceptible to the teachings of the Satsujinken and Mikumo would be in a position to gnab a disciple she has had her eyes on for the past 100+ chapters.

Originally Posted by Merilyn Mensola

True, Saiga is Miu father and Killed his wife..but first, he Killed someone when he was fighting to protect his friends and maybe his wife,..after this Saiga changed, become bad,and kill even his wife..so, Kenichi-Saiga comparison isn't impossible..but Is obviou that the mangaka can't go in this way..

The author has yet to reveal why Saiga decided to kill his wife. For example, the author could throw a twist in by mentioning that massacre we saw in Hayato's narration was caused by a berserk Shizuha. Saiga would then have an incentive to do something about his wife out of fear of her succumbing to her inborn pulse to kill as hinted in Miu's flashback.

The Kenichi-Saiga comparison is still valid and the inevitable dominant conflict in the story. Initially Saiga was a firm believer in the Katsujinken but his experiences during the Kuremisago dispute (e.g. having to see his wife the constant target of killers) caused him to develop a warped thinking that combines his initial philosophy with that of the Satsujinken: the idea that killing can serve the "greater good". Kenichi is in possible danger of inheriting this philosophy. Like Saiga, Kenichi is a firm believer in the Katsujinken. Given enough time and psychological hardships such as Miu being targeted, having a master killed right before his eyes, and the "Eternal Sunset" (which led to WWII), then Kenichi's morals would be warped as was Saiga's case. Assuming that were to happen, then Kenichi would probably become the future leader of Yami because from their perspective, no one would be more qualified to lead the organization than him.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Franckie

This arc is completely pointless if Mikumo doesn't get what she wants. Remember that she is the one who suggested Miu to Silcardo, which in turn led to this arc. Silcardo being defeated, Miu's brainwashing being undone, everyone returning home, etc. is just a return to the status quo and lousy writing.

The probable scenario is that she is arranging for circumstances to shove Kenichi down the path of the Satsujinken as was the case with her. Silcardo is (in)famous in the organization for his ill-treatment of disciples, and Miu is Kenichi's lifeline. What happens if that lifeline is removed? Kenichi would become susceptible to the teachings of the Satsujinken and Mikumo would be in a position to gnab a disciple she has had her eyes on for the past 100+ chapters.



The author has yet to reveal why Saiga decided to kill his wife. For example, the author could throw a twist in by mentioning that massacre we saw in Hayato's narration was caused by a berserk Shizuha. Saiga would then have an incentive to do something about his wife out of fear of her succumbing to her inborn pulse to kill as hinted in Miu's flashback.

The Kenichi-Saiga comparison is still valid and the inevitable dominant conflict in the story. Initially Saiga was a firm believer in the Katsujinken but his experiences during the Kuremisago dispute (e.g. having to see his wife the constant target of killers) caused him to develop a warped thinking that combines his initial philosophy with that of the Satsujinken: the idea that killing can serve the "greater good". Kenichi is in possible danger of inheriting this philosophy. Like Saiga, Kenichi is a firm believer in the Katsujinken. Given enough time and psychological hardships such as Miu being targeted, having a master killed right before his eyes, and the "Eternal Sunset" (which led to WWII), then Kenichi's morals would be warped as was Saiga's case. Assuming that were to happen, then Kenichi would probably become the future leader of Yami because from their perspective, no one would be more qualified to lead the organization than him.

Is true that maybe the real target for Mikumo is Kenichi..and she want him join in Yami-Yomi and maybe become her disciple..and this is a master plan, to put Kenichi like this, because Miu is the only reason that can put Kenichi out of the line Katsujinken..but, i think that this manga isn't really dark..i mean..the mangaka can't make Apachi dead..even when his was hit badly...so i think that if Kenichi see Miu hit and go out of mind, and try to Kill the Monster..probably the master show up and stop him at the last moment....so basically this is a partial victory for Mikumo..because Kenichi for once, go in to the wrong path..and this can make a trauma in him...but..sincerely.., i don't know how the Mangaka is going to finish this Arc..however you made a good point..

For the Kenichi-Saiga comparison..at this point of story, i think that they are similar in some way..but, before making theories..i want to know more of Saiga past..because for me is strange that Saiga killed his wife like this..even if he become a bad guy..

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Merilyn Mensola

Is true that maybe the real target for Mikumo is Kenichi..and she want him join in Yami-Yomi and maybe become her disciple..and this is a master plan, to put Kenichi like this, because Miu is the only reason that can put Kenichi out of the line Katsujinken..but, i think that this manga isn't really dark..i mean..the mangaka can't make Apachi dead..even when his was hit badly...so i think that if Kenichi see Miu hit and go out of mind, and try to Kill the Monster..probably the master show up and stop him at the last moment....so basically this is a partial victory for Mikumo..because Kenichi for once, go in to the wrong path..and this can make a trauma in him...but..sincerely.., i don't know how the Mangaka is going to finish this Arc..however you made a good point..

For the Kenichi-Saiga comparison..at this point of story, i think that they are similar in some way..but, before making theories..i want to know more of Saiga past..because for me is strange that Saiga killed his wife like this..even if he become a bad guy..

i get the feeling Saiga likely kill his wife with her blessing. Maybe they both agreed it was the best way to stop the fighting or maybe she was already dying by some illness and asked him to speed it along or both.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

i get the feeling Saiga likely kill his wife with her blessing. Maybe they both agreed it was the best way to stop the fighting or maybe she was already dying by some illness and asked him to speed it along or both.

To tell the true, i have that idea tha Saiga arrived when Shizuha was almost dead, and in the end, isn't Saiga that killed her..,this would explain because Saiga go in the wrong pact..but this is my speculation..but is really strange that Saiga killed her..the war was started for her.. So is a bit illogical that in the end he killed her..i want to know what happened..i hope the final Arc is going to star soon...

[Merilyn Mensola]

As always..sorry for the double post..however

There is a great news.....

KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple Manga Gets 2nd Video Anime

This year's ninth issue of Shogakukan's Weekly Shonen Sunday magazne is announcing on Wednesday that the KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple manga will bundle its second original video anime (OVA) in May. The 47th volume of the manga will be available that month in a set with the second OVA. More information about the second OVA will be provided in future issues of the magazine.

The same issue of Weekly Shonen Sunday also revealed that the beginning of the anime project will be posted before the first DVD's release on the magazine's Web Sunday site. The first OVA will be bundled with the 46th KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple manga volume on March 14.

Shun Matsuena's manga already inspired a television anime series that Funimation released in North America.

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Good!good! and Good!

I'm going to edit this post when pics and summary are out for 462..


Edit for summary ch 462 thanks to Imperial Scans

Spoiler:

kenichi is fighting the monster now. Miu's watching and realizes she knows this feeling. flashes of kenichi "getting killed". kenichi does his sword maneuver punch and impresses people. the "father" here is impressed and gives kenichi his kote back saying that he reminds him of someone special in their past (old man fuurinji). at this point we have sakaki and hongo busting in a wall and junazard getting ready to fight them telling bulu that she'll have to kill. he won't let the other two masters get in the way of his deciples training. -the end

So, it's seems that Kenichi has to fight the monster..and protect his self from Miu because she see both of them her enemies(Kenichi and the Monster)...and is look like Sakaki and comp show up...mmman epic chapter i think....

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Merilyn Mensola

As always..sorry for the double post..however

There is a great news.....

KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple Manga Gets 2nd Video Anime

This year's ninth issue of Shogakukan's Weekly Shonen Sunday magazne is announcing on Wednesday that the KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple manga will bundle its second original video anime (OVA) in May. The 47th volume of the manga will be available that month in a set with the second OVA. More information about the second OVA will be provided in future issues of the magazine.

The same issue of Weekly Shonen Sunday also revealed that the beginning of the anime project will be posted before the first DVD's release on the magazine's Web Sunday site. The first OVA will be bundled with the 46th KenIchi the Mightiest Disciple manga volume on March 14.

Shun Matsuena's manga already inspired a television anime series that Funimation released in North America.

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Good!good! and Good!

I'm going to edit this post when pics and summary are out for 462..


Edit for summary ch 462 thanks to Imperial Scans

Spoiler:

kenichi is fighting the monster now. Miu's watching and realizes she knows this feeling. flashes of kenichi "getting killed". kenichi does his sword maneuver punch and impresses people. the "father" here is impressed and gives kenichi his kote back saying that he reminds him of someone special in their past (old man fuurinji). at this point we have sakaki and hongo busting in a wall and junazard getting ready to fight them telling bulu that she'll have to kill. he won't let the other two masters get in the way of his deciples training. -the end

So, it's seems that Kenichi has to fight the monster..and protect his self from Miu because she see both of them her enemies(Kenichi and the Monster)...and is look like Sakaki and comp show up...mmman epic chapter i think....

Spoiler:

Whoa, that's definitely epic enough.

And it seems the dissension within Jenazad's ranks is starting to grow. Menang (Father's real name, it seems) has openly defied the madman, and it's about time. And we see Kenichi using his Seikuken against Big Crazy, he'll need it against this nutcase. Not to mention against Miu, since the duel has become a triple threat match. Even worse, the good team has arrived, and Jenazad's prepared to engage them. Though fighting two Super Masters, one Master, Lona and Sham, he might be biting off more than even he can chew. And even if he manages to fend them all off, Hayato is bound to arrive before long, and he won't escape then.

And man, Kenichi reminds Menang of Hayato, do we need any more proof that Kenichi's bound to be Hayato's successor in the Fuurinji style martial arts? That'll definitely cement his place as History's Mightiest Disciple. Can't wait for the next chapter.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler:

Whoa, that's definitely epic enough.

And it seems the dissension within Jenazad's ranks is starting to grow. Menang (Father's real name, it seems) has openly defied the madman, and it's about time. And we see Kenichi using his Seikuken against Big Crazy, he'll need it against this nutcase. Not to mention against Miu, since the duel has become a triple threat match. Even worse, the good team has arrived, and Jenazad's prepared to engage them. Though fighting two Super Masters, one Master, Lona and Sham, he might be biting off more than even he can chew. And even if he manages to fend them all off, Hayato is bound to arrive before long, and he won't escape then.

And man, Kenichi reminds Menang of Hayato, do we need any more proof that Kenichi's bound to be Hayato's successor in the Fuurinji style martial arts? That'll definitely cement his place as History's Mightiest Disciple. Can't wait for the next chapter.

Chapter 462 is out

Spoiler:

good chapter...the situation is really difficult for Kenichi..fight the monster and protect his self by Miu..the move that Sakaki teach to Kenichi is good...he was able to dodge the monster blade(expert class level) ..however..Miu still hitting him again....and if you think that Kenichi has already take much damage by Miu...but seems that she start to regain her memory more quickly..at the end seems that She is about to take off the mask or maybe her head hurt because she is trying to remember her past..and i'm glad that the father give the protection arms to Kenichi..Sakaki and Hongo are destroying everything i wonder if is Hongo that is going to fight the Demon..
I think, hope, that Kenichi is going to win the fight with this monster..and prove to Miu who he is...

[ShiroiRyu]

Spoiler for 462:

Oh ... More look like the elder ...
And this end ... They are here !
In same time, Kenichi do a real fight here !

[noktown]

So wait,there is a possibility that Kenichi will get another anime project and not just an ova ?

That would be so awesome.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by noktown

So wait,there is a possibility that Kenichi will get another anime project and not just an ova ?

That would be so awesome.

Yes..there is a possibility...however for now two Ova are confirmed

[NoLongerSane]

Very enjoyable chapter.

Spoiler for 462:

It looks like Kenichi is in a tough spot dealing with not only the masked disciple but Miu a well. Honestly, the poor guy is taking more damage to himself in trying to bring Miu back. It seems like Silicardo is seeing more of the Elder in Kenichi as the boy's fighting spirit has brought back some memories with the man. It looks like the Masters fight will begin next chapter with Kenichi still having to deal with a brainwashed Miu (along with the mask monster ).

Also, really looking foward towards the upcoming OVA's. Really wanting to see when the PV's for them are shown.

[vansonbee]

Read the chapter and I am predicting the loli fighting each other in a sexual way....

[Alhazad2003]

*reads the whole chapter*

Yep, I'd say Jenazad's lost it now. Nearly getting Big Crazy's broken blade thrust through his skull will do that, on top of everything else. But man, to think he's capable of telepathy, definitely diabolical enough. Also explains who was silently instructing Bulu to kill Nuchald. But once he starts fighting, he won't be able to concentrate on her. Either way, he's way in over his head. The mighty breakdown of Silcardo Jenazad begins in the next chapter. Until then...

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

*reads the whole chapter*

Yep, I'd say Jenazad's lost it now. Nearly getting Big Crazy's broken blade thrust through his skull will do that, on top of everything else. But man, to think he's capable of telepathy, definitely diabolical enough. Also explains who was silently instructing Bulu to kill Nuchald. But once he starts fighting, he won't be able to concentrate on her. Either way, he's way in over his head. The mighty breakdown of Silcardo Jenazad begins in the next chapter. Until then...

Yeah,sincerely i don't know if Miu can still fighting..because seems to me that she is in a confusional state now..,so i hope she can't go against Kenichi or the Monster anymore, i would prefer if she stays behind to look the fight between Kenichi and the Monster..

And i hope that is Hongo that fight the Demon...this would be really EPIC!

[qwertzu]

"We won't kill you. But we'll hurt you so badly you'll want to die!"

And some more news about the OVA
http://websunday.net/kenichi/ova/

Does anyone know those two new characters? I don't remeber them from the manga. Are they OVA only?

ETA: Ok, I should read what they are writing on that page. "New characters designed by Matsuena-sensei"

Anyway, there will be SHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Voiced by Daisuke Namikawa (Italy from Hetalia)

And since theis voice actor have passed away Miu and Hayato Furinji are now voiced by Rie Kugimiya (Alphonse Elric (FMA), Shana (Shakugan no Shana)) and Yuzuru Fujimoto (Ma Kensei's uncle from the Kenichi anime)

ETA ": Found a "new" Kenichi wallpaper on websunday's homepage http://websunday.net/download/

[Wargumm1i]

Im very disappointed that an Ova is being made, and that we can see that Shou is being voiced which means he will make some appearances. But still I want a 3rd season.

[Merilyn Mensola]

Originally Posted by qwertzu

"We won't kill you. But we'll hurt you so badly you'll want to die!"

And some more news about the OVA
http://websunday.net/kenichi/ova/

Does anyone know those two new characters? I don't remeber them from the manga. Are they OVA only?

ETA: Ok, I should read what they are writing on that page. "New characters designed by Matsuena-sensei"

Anyway, there will be SHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Voiced by Daisuke Namikawa (Italy from Hetalia)

And since theis voice actor have passed away Miu and Hayato Furinji are now voiced by Rie Kugimiya (Alphonse Elric (FMA), Shana (Shakugan no Shana)) and Yuzuru Fujimoto (Ma Kensei's uncle from the Kenichi anime)

ETA ": Found a "new" Kenichi wallpaper on websunday's homepage http://websunday.net/download/

Shoot! i want to see Shigure so badly!i can't wait!

I'm glad that we see Shou..i liked his character..even if was a villain..his past was really sad..like is mentioned.."a bird, in the cage"

Gnawwww..Shigure!!! just make her like in the manga..and it, will be EPIC!!