2013-04-29, 22:51 | Link #481 | |||
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The test was never designed with a 100% pass rate and it's not fair to people who are slow because they couldn't get the ingredients, I agree. The bad cauliflower was thrown in there to ensure some people would fail because they were not fast enough to get one of the limited number of good ones and Shinomiya probably does take great enjoyment in failing people. On the other hand as a consumer I've been in restaurants that you can't be sure on any given night if the food will be great, mediocre, or bad. I've also been to places that take a long time to cook my food and it has negatively impacted my opinion of those restaurants. I as a consumer can see the importance of consistency and speed in a chef which this test evaluates. Quote:
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Because Shinomiya is an unpleasent person who enjoys suffering. I'm not going to defend him, he's a horrible person, but the exam still tests for legitimate aspects of being a chef. Last edited by yuzen003; 2013-04-29 at 23:05. |
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2013-04-29, 23:27 | Link #482 | |||||
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In this situation, all you can do is go to the customer, explained what happened and ask them if they'll accept the change. Shinomiya didn't even give Megumi that chance. I've eaten at restaraunts where I ordered for example, a leg and thigh of chicken, or food with a certain sauce. If they don't have a leg or a thigh, or they run out of the sauce, they ask me if I would like something else, a different piece of chicken or another sauce. Quote:
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They do NOT have the same odds at the start and the odds only get worse as time goes on, since everyone doesn't have an equal chance to get a cauliflower, since there are less cauliflowers than students. Quote:
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2013-04-29, 23:40 | Link #483 | |
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Megumi only used the wine vinegar to fix her ingredient, and that did not even ruined the vegetables' taste. So, I don't think she failed this test. |
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2013-04-30, 00:12 | Link #484 | |
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A consumer waiting too long for their meal would not apply in this case. She didn't take any extra time to make her meal. The only issue is that she was literally pushed and wrestled out the way when she was trying to get her own ingredients, not just the cauliflower. Considering she had to fight her way to each ingredient, this has nothing to do with being "slow", and it certainly doesn't prove that she was passive either. |
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2013-04-30, 00:29 | Link #485 | |
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2013-04-30, 04:54 | Link #486 | |
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first: one of your argument was that megume was not fast enough but that is not true she completed the task that was given in the time limit, if Shinomiya wanted to test speed, he would not give enough time to everyone complete the task. two: the test was not made to everyone be in equal % to take the cauliflower , you can see in the manga that she was pushed back when she tried to get the cauliflower and the reason is because she does not have the same physical strenght than a teenager man. to finish we have to see Shinomiya's test in two point of view's, first is if she was a employer and he is the chief she must pass because like you said is not always that the restaurant will get the good ingredients but she transformed a bad one in something that can be sold and for that she pass. the second one is if they are in a school, and if that is true the entire test he made is wrong because in school you can not applies a test that someone will fail just because he got the wrong question. at least we agree that Shinomiya is unpleasent person but about his methods is at best questionable. sorry about my english i hope that everyone can understand what i wrote because i'm self learning and to be better at english i think is better if i try to write more. |
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2013-04-30, 05:20 | Link #487 |
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Didn't expect this going to have full-blown discussion like this I'm pretty sure that we can mae a bunch of analogy for our arguments, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the analogy will go in respect for the aim of this test.
Like I said before, I still don't see the point in making the test like this
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2013-05-03, 01:07 | Link #489 |
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The only time you'd see someone mix in bad ingredients is to test EVERYONE. A test to see if you can differentiate between poor and good ingredients. Food is scared for a chef. You don't purposely put in spoil ingredients and tell someone to cook with it. The fact four-eyes calls himself a pro yet he put in spoiled ingredients to purposely fail half the students already makes him a fake chef. The fact he had the nerve to fail Megumi after she found a way to fix makes him a anal dick that shouldn't be a chef. Its like a teacher who gives you a test and tells you half the class is destined to fail no matter what you do. Think back to to the first test Megumi and Souma took. The ara ara~ oneesan test was fair. Whether or not you could gather ingredients was up to your potential as a chef. It was a fair playing field. Honestly if you wanted to fuck with the students stupid four-eyes should've given them durian to work with.
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2013-05-03, 12:20 | Link #496 |
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Oneshot Erina was more deredere. She wasn't really that tsun. I guess they used megumi to replace Erina with the addition of derp like qualities. Oneshot souma looked so old... glad tosh redesigned him. It'd make sense with the changes to Erina. The manga wouldn't be as interesting if Erina was deredere from the start. Too bad we haven't seen Souma experiment with food inawhile. I'm pretty the author wanted to add more scenes with that.
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2013-05-03, 12:38 | Link #497 |
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Those first words, wonder if she put up with drinking milk for months since she couldn't talk as a baby yet.
Oneshot Erina is more dere and at least somewhat verbally acknowledges Souma's skills, while manga Erina is more tsun. Souma also looked like early twenties in oneshot, wonder if those octupus tentacles are going to become a running gag?
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