2009-03-05, 01:49 | Link #61 |
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I dont know, I like how this is evolving, One of them being a question I've always had may be answered.
Why does Aizen use Hollows? Why would a Hollow Listen to Aizen and what reason is there for them to hold secrets against him for. Watch I bet Ulquiorra was the fraccion of a former 1st espada and he feels so much anger over it, but yeah I agree with Anno' All these chapters are doing is furthering Ichigo's determination, but then again I do kinda remember a fight back in SS arc that last 3-5 manga chapters. It's clear its following a pattern but meh, we dont have to complain and like I've said before, Cherish what we have, Ulq will be dust in a matter of chapters. |
2009-03-05, 04:20 | Link #63 |
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Man, another secret release?
I thought Ulg was already pawning Ichigo as it is. I fail to see what can happen for Ichigo to warrant such attention safe Hollow transformation. In any case, those last two months have been a serious disappointment. This battle has been nothing other than sword clashing, Getsuga tenshou and power-ups from Ulq. Nothing new under the sun... If people knew this would be the case, I doubt it they would want to get away from the captains/espada fights so quickly. Damn, I can't wait to see the Stark/Shunsui fight...
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2009-03-05, 04:39 | Link #64 | |
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Heh...so Ulquorria released his 2nd form.
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2009-03-05, 06:47 | Link #66 |
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I think that only the vizards can fight back the top 4 espadas at the same level. I doubt Aizen, Ichimaru or Tousen is stronger than Barragan or Stark unless they are also vizards. The levels are just too distant from one espada to another espada concerning the given numbers. It will be a horrendous bs if Shunsui battles Stark as an equal or Toshiro against Halibel, cant even say Soifon x Barragan.
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2009-03-05, 07:03 | Link #67 |
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ichigo beat (or equaled) kenpachi
uliq (#4) owned ichigo when ichigo was MUCH more powerful then he was when he was fighting kenpachi (bankai+mask) kenpachi owned tousen (bankai and all) logiclly tousen is weaker then the espada that are 4# and over gin matched with hitsugaya hitsugaya jobs to anyone else logiclly gin is weaker then the top 4 espada its just math
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2009-03-05, 07:05 | Link #68 |
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Think of it as jankenpo, rock beats scissors and scissors beat paper but that doesn't mean rock can beat paper.
Also,the power of Bankai varies by individual, so Aizen,Gin,Shunsui,Juushiro and Soifon can be much stronger than you think. |
2009-03-05, 07:10 | Link #70 |
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Ah,but still, shinigami powers are categorized by 4 things: hand-to-hand,swordsmanship,kido and movement, you could say that swords beat kido, hand-to-hand beats swords and kido beats hand-to-hand (there's a pathetic bleach game based on this too).
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2009-03-05, 08:46 | Link #72 | |
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Tosen lost because he was up against a guy that doesn't even flinch when a sword goes through him. Tosen's Bankai renders all senses but touch inoperable, letting Tosen do as he pleases to them. Kenpachi won not only because he outsmarted Tosen, but because he was crazy enough to let himself be stabbed like that. Almost anyone else, probably even some that are stronger than Kenpachi, would have lost that fight. Tosen MIGHT be weaker than Kenpachi concerning pure reiatsu, but Tosen has a very strong ability to make up for it. The rock-paper-scissors explanation fits, especially in this case, IMO. Tosen is paper and Kenpachi is teh scissors And fwiw, Hitsu matched Gin in Shikai mode. I don't think they'd have the exact same result if they were in Bankai mode.
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2009-03-05, 10:40 | Link #73 | |
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I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about Tousen and Gin's strength. I don't think they're vizards, but they still seem pretty strong to me. It gets more complicated when you consider that many of the captains are very good at all those methods. It's implied Aizen has nearly maxed out in all 4 areas. Also, 11th division doesn't use any fighting method but swordsmanship yet they're considered the strongest division (that may be self-proclaimed though).
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2009-03-05, 10:42 | Link #74 |
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I think Tousen lost to Kenpachi due to plot protection. Instead of slicing him up bit by bit at the beginning, Tousen probably could've won if he didn't mess around and went for the immediate kill (like what happened in the most current episode).
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2009-03-05, 10:43 | Link #75 | |
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Bleach 348: The Lust 2
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2009-03-05, 11:45 | Link #77 |
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I have to say that the manga is getting more and more interesting by the week. Is Ichigo actually going to die by the hands of Ulquiorra? If so that would be interesting to see the hero actually get killed and not get ressurected. Hmmmm..... I know thats a slim possibility but ATM it seems to be possible. My main question is "When are you going to take over again Hichigo".
I never wanted to post this in here. Wheres the 349 discussion @? Im retarded. Im a thinking a week ahead of what chapter were on. Last edited by lequory; 2009-03-06 at 10:24. |
2009-03-05, 11:45 | Link #78 |
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:sigh: .............
Looks like Ichi-vs-Bya as the best fight in Bleach won't lose to this one. Although I like Ulqi's release, it sure is an overkill. I'm afraid we can sum this up as "99% of the time Ulqi pwnd Ichigo, then for 1% Ichigo stopped acting like a punching bag and beat Ulqi with whatever power up" I prefer fights like the Byakuya-fight, where one side shows something new while the other side tries to keep up, then again something new is shown because the gap narrowed etc. What we have here is a one man show, and while the first and second release both look very nice, it's not really entertaining. :/ With the (hollow?)hole in his chest and with Orihime around I guess Ichi's power up will be revealed next week, and from there on Ulqiorra will serve as punching bag But ok, let's hope it won't turn out to be that dull. At least Orihime is now there and Ulqiorra became a bit more interesting seeing him having secrets from his Aizen-sama it's a bit out of character though.
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