[MANGA] Bleach Weekly Chapter 500+ Discussion

[DerGilga]

I could almost hear it, "Bleach, Zangetsu"

[bakato]

Originally Posted by DerGilga

I could almost hear it, "Bleach, Zangetsu"

OMG. Could it be? If your right, I'll fall on my knees.

[The Green One]

Well points to Ichigo for having a plan beyond his usual charge in and swing hoping he hits, fire 7 to 8 ineffective Getsuga Tenshous.

[Ultragunner]

Ok so for some reasons I started re-watching and re-reading the old episodes/chapters of Bleach, especially the Fake Karakura Arc...

...and I still don't quite understand how Aizen was "defeated" from what I can get: Ichigo, for a brief moment, overpowered Aizen so bad with Final Getsuga Tenshou (GT) so bad that it weakened him to the point that Hougyoku separated from him thus allowing Urahra's custom sealing Kido to be activated. Is this the gist of it? Can someone elaborate on this for me pls?

Also, why Ichigo was so OP back there? Was it because he, for the first time. managed to merge and utilise all of his latent power after training for Final GT?

Should we expect the same or similar performance from Ichigo with his new form?

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

from what I can get: Ichigo, for a brief moment, overpowered Aizen so bad with Final Getsuga Tenshou (GT) so bad that it weakened him to the point that Hougyoku separated from him thus allowing Urahra's custom sealing Kido to be activated. Is this the gist of it? Can someone elaborate on this for me pls?

yeah, pretty much,
aizen was so powerful that the kido seal wouldnt have worked, after aizen became weaker in reitatsu-lvls it managed to seal him...

Also, why Ichigo was so OP back there? Was it because he, for the first time. managed to merge and utilise all of his latent power after training for Final GT?

he used all his powers at once, but the way i understood it, it was pretty similar to gons final transformation,
he reached his full powerlvl but only fired one attack at that lvl, basically like how gon had a full charged jajanken at the end...

Should we expect the same or similar performance from Ichigo with his new form?

if what i think is true than ichigo should now have the same powerlvl as previously but on a permanent basis and therefore he can spam attacks as powerful as mugetsu as much as he wants

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Ok so for some reasons I started re-watching and re-reading the old episodes/chapters of Bleach, especially the Fake Karakura Arc...

...and I still don't quite understand how Aizen was "defeated" from what I can get: Ichigo, for a brief moment, overpowered Aizen so bad with Final Getsuga Tenshou (GT) so bad that it weakened him to the point that Hougyoku separated from him thus allowing Urahra's custom sealing Kido to be activated. Is this the gist of it? Can someone elaborate on this for me pls?

Also, why Ichigo was so OP back there? Was it because he, for the first time. managed to merge and utilise all of his latent power after training for Final GT?

Should we expect the same or similar performance from Ichigo with his new form?

The Hougyoku didn't separate from Aizen. It just stopped acknowledging him and therefore didn't power him up. Ichigo's attack weakened him enough for the seal to take effect.

After forging a new zanpakutou, Ichigo's contradicting natures of human, soul reaper, hollow, and quincy settled and merged, allowing him to achieve his final form. Until this, his quincy powers masquerading as Zangetsu was suppressing the majority of his powers.

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by sayde

Is it safe to assume he's now currently even more powerful than his post-dangai training Bankai form?

my guess would be that his current form is between that and Mugetsu.

In any case, it's clear he's only playing right into Yhwachs hands. Because if Yhwachs aim is to defeat Ichigo and reclaim the quincy power in him, then I suppose he stands to gain a whole lot more than just his quincy powers should he succeed.

Yes. It's likely that Ichigo will not only lose, but lose so bad that Ywach completely gets his way and we are made to think that Ichigo is dead. In these types of stories the big boss usually gets his way 100% only to be taken down later when it seems that all hope is lost. So Ichigo will 'die' and be absorbed only to have his dad and friends fight Ywach and somehow revive him into a form that is even more powerful than Mugetsu

[Kafriel]

Final fights come in many forms. Some are told over the span of as long as centuries, involving continuous destruction in a relentless duel. Others are just resolved by the hero (or their team) pulling a one-up on the final boss or catching them by surprise. I'm getting really, really strong vibes that the latter will be the case for BLEACH.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

Yes. It's likely that Ichigo will not only lose, but lose so bad that Ywach completely gets his way and we are made to think that Ichigo is dead. In these types of stories the big boss usually gets his way 100% only to be taken down later when it seems that all hope is lost. So Ichigo will 'die' and be absorbed only to have his dad and friends fight Ywach and somehow revive him into a form that is even more powerful than Mugetsu

i think ywach reached that lvl after absorbing the soul king

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

i think ywach reached that lvl after absorbing the soul king

Not according to the recent chapters. It seems creating and absorbing Ichigo is also a major part of his plan.

[sayde]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

Yes. It's likely that Ichigo will not only lose, but lose so bad that Ywach completely gets his way and we are made to think that Ichigo is dead. In these types of stories the big boss usually gets his way 100% only to be taken down later when it seems that all hope is lost. So Ichigo will 'die' and be absorbed only to have his dad and friends and Aizen fight Ywach and somehow revive him into a form that is even more powerful than Mugetsu

fix'd.
No, but seriously, we need to see Aizen vs Yhwach before this series ends. lol

[AsGryffynn]

Aizen vs Juha would be nice...

[quigonkenny]

Personally, I see Ichigo getting his ass handed to him, even after assistance from the Daddy Duo, and right before Yhwach is about to finish him, Aizen pops up and tells Ichigo he is disappointed in him, and so he'll show him how it's done. Aizen goes on to wreak havoc on Yhwach, but ultimately come up short. However, he does indeed "show Ichigo how it's done", as something Aizen/Yhwach does or reveals during the fight shows Ichigo how to gain victory in the final final battle.

[DragonXX]

I am still waiting for the flashback about how Ywach was beat for the first time and what his connect to the Soul King is and also about why that person grandfather was in Soul King place and how he get there or why he was there. Basely I don't care about the fights that are going on and just want to know what happen in the past. I may then care about the fights that happen after.

Also where are the Soul King legs, they have not show up yet.

I want to know the past more then I care for the fights.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by DragonXX

I am still waiting for the flashback about how Ywach was beat for the first time and what his connect to the Soul King is and also about why that person grandfather was in Soul King place and how he get there or why he was there. Basely I don't care about the fights that are going on and just want to know what happen in the past. I may then care about the fights that happen after.

Also where are the Soul King legs, they have not show up yet.

I want to know the past more then I care for the fights.

They're in the spirit realm. Japanese ghosts don't have legs.

[DerGilga]

Well after seeing some spoiler pics, I have to say

Spoiler for 676:

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[LevelSeven]

yup, ichigo has some new mode,
he can fire grand ray ceroes and ywach seems to have trouble :O

now lets see how many years this fight will need :'D

[Hakai]

Now you feel like number one!

[~Yami~]

Please at least named that fancy move with other names than Getsuga Tenshou

something like Gran Rey Tenshou or Getsuga Zero sounds nice

[Mad Pierrot]

Probably one of the series' best chapters I've read this year even though not much happened. Even Ichigo admitted he was quite overpowered. Also, finally the return of a Cero.

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

now lets see how many years this fight will need :'D

Maybe even longer than Ichigo vs Byakuya or Ulquiorra considering none of appear to reveal their full powers