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AntonKutovoi · 2015-03-21, 11:10

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Originally Posted by JKL

Based on all the materials available so far it still feels more like a parody of what it is supposed to be. Arakawa's exaggerated style isn't helping.

I maybe don't like designs, but outside of that I honestly don't see anything bad or "parody-like".

Maxulous · 2015-03-23, 02:32

Kaji sounds so fierce! I think I'm looking forward to that most of all - this role could be for him what Yagami Light was for Miyano Mimoru. Here's hoping.

Apprehensive about obtrusive CG battles, but I've survived worse.

kuromitsu · 2015-03-23, 05:03

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Originally Posted by AntonKutovoi

I maybe don't like designs, but outside of that I honestly don't see anything bad or "parody-like".

Personally, for me the first episode will be already a travesty simply because it will include the first chapter of the manga which was just, basically, NO. For a number of reasons.

But other than that, like the manga, the anime so far also feels like an epic shounen sword & sorcery adventure, which would be OK, except Arslan senki is an "epic shounen sword & sorcery adventure" as much as LoGH is a space opera. And the Arakawa mannerisms and sense of humor just don't align with the novel's style so I'm not looking forward to seeing them in the anime as well...

But the cast is really good, so for their sake I continue to hope for the best.

RDNexus · 2015-03-23, 07:07

That may be your point of view, for others it may be the exact opposite or at least less of a negative point of view.
I prefer to see how things may fare before starting to throw bombs everywhere. Expectations are simply that...

kuromitsu · 2015-03-23, 07:29

Well yes, it's my opinion, I didn't say anyone had to share it...

Knowing what I know I have an idea as to what to expect and I know where I stand on that, especially since, as I said earlier, my main issue with this anime is something I don't see changing in the show. But I still hope for the best from the part where the story moves beyond the manga and into novel territory.

JKL · 2015-03-24, 03:10

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Originally Posted by AntonKutovoi

I maybe don't like designs, but outside of that I honestly don't see anything bad or "parody-like".

As in I can't take it seriously.

Also It's not bad per se, but it feels wrong.

Tiberium Wolf · 2015-03-27, 17:46

OK... I saw the PV and it seems the armies battles are decently animated. Better than Vanadis. Assuming it's not just in the PV.

VyseLegendaire · 2015-03-31, 00:30

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Originally Posted by JKL

As in I can't take it seriously.

Also It's not bad per se, but it feels wrong.

it looks fine to me. Arakawa is a capable of author and shes almost surely going to do justice to Arslan with this. So long as her planned ending makes it into the anime I will be happy to see it.

The art style fits her writing. Its certainly not as adult as the original adaptation, but I dont think its so off the mark either. Its just one interpretation of what the characters might look like - and their designs are fitting, imo. Its got an appeal for younger audiences as well, that is my impression, - who might otherwise be turned off by more realistic character designs.

As for complaints about the 1st chapter of the manga, if you raed Arakawas interview in the English retail volumes with Yoshiki Tanaka, you can see he approved of it, and she thought it was necessary to establish the setting a bit before dropping the reader directly into a political conflict. This is standard fare for manga anyway.

Enternal · 2015-03-31, 21:41

Either way, still very curious to see how this turns out. Especially when compared to the OVAs I stumbled upon at Hollywood Video when I was a tiny kid. And funnily enough I never knew there was a manga adaptation by Arakawa either so definitely need to take a look now.

Stark700 · 2015-04-02, 12:03

Funimation got it

http://funimation.tumblr.com/post/11...-a-story-thats

VyseLegendaire · 2015-04-03, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Stark700

Funimation got it

http://funimation.tumblr.com/post/11...-a-story-thats

Woot. Confirmed for US at last!

JKL · 2015-04-04, 07:32

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Originally Posted by VyseLegendaire

it looks fine to me. Arakawa is a capable of author and shes almost surely going to do justice to Arslan with this. So long as her planned ending makes it into the anime I will be happy to see it.

The art style fits her writing. Its certainly not as adult as the original adaptation, but I dont think its so off the mark either. Its just one interpretation of what the characters might look like - and their designs are fitting, imo. Its got an appeal for younger audiences as well, that is my impression, - who might otherwise be turned off by more realistic character designs.

As for complaints about the 1st chapter of the manga, if you read Arakawas interview in the English retail volumes with Yoshiki Tanaka, you can see he approved of it, and she thought it was necessary to establish the setting a bit before dropping the reader directly into a political conflict. This is standard fare for manga anyway.

I admire your optimism and unquestioning faith in Arakawa. I'm sure people who like that brand of writing will love it.

Guardian Enzo · 2015-04-04, 09:05

Wow, no "dripping with snark" there or anything.

kuromitsu · 2015-04-04, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Wow, no "dripping with snark" there or anything.

Well, people keep going "it'll be OK, it's Arakawa!" and we're running out of ways to say that Arakawa is kind of the problem.

(Again, I've nothing against her. It's just that she's completely wrong for Arslan.)

And snark or not, JKL is completely right that Arakawa fans will (do, actually) most likely love it. Which is another "symptom", kind of - you kind of have to be a fan of Arakawa or her style of writing to really enjoy this new Arslan, which is really annoying to some of us.

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Originally Posted by VyseLegendaire

The art style fits her writing.

Her writing...

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Originally Posted by VyseLegendaire

Its certainly not as adult as the original adaptation, but I dont think its so off the mark either. Its just one interpretation of what the characters might look like - and their designs are fitting, imo. Its got an appeal for younger audiences as well, that is my impression, - who might otherwise be turned off by more realistic character designs.

I suppose this is a kinder way of saying that it feels like a "kiddie" version?

Not that the novels are hardcore serious adult stuff, but still there's a huge discord between the novel's style and the manga's cartoony art and way of storytelling.

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Originally Posted by VyseLegendaire

As for complaints about the 1st chapter of the manga, if you raed Arakawas interview in the English retail volumes with Yoshiki Tanaka, you can see he approved of it, and she thought it was necessary to establish the setting a bit before dropping the reader directly into a political conflict. This is standard fare for manga anyway.

TBH I don't really care what Tanaka approves of and what he doesn't... Also, yeah, like he'd disapprove. Still, given that the novels work perfectly without anything that we get in the first chapter of the manga, and none of the adaptations so far felt the need to add anything of the sort, I'm saying it's not particularly necessary. Not to mention the main character is painfully OOC, the "morals" are as subtle as a sledgehammer, and let's not even wander into spoilery reasons why it feels awfully wrong.

JKL · 2015-04-04, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Wow, no "dripping with snark" there or anything.

Well it's true is it not? It's a safe bet that people who like Arakawa are guaranteed to like the Arakawa-esque elements of this particular adaptation.

If the shoe was on the other foot and a beloved franchise was being adapted by someone you didn't have an appreciation for like say, SHAFT, Mari Okada, Shinbo Akiyuki etc, I'm certain your words would be less than complimentary also.

quigonkenny · 2015-04-04, 22:41

So, guys, who's looking forward...to......

*backs slowly out of the room*

RDNexus · 2015-04-05, 05:06

I'm finding it pretty weird that nobody is commenting about Ep01...
Is something wrong? The episode has been out for a little while...

AntonKutovoi · 2015-04-05, 05:28

OST is great and visuals and voice acting are good. That is all I can tell so far, since this episode is a filler and the actual series starts next week.

RDNexus · 2015-04-05, 05:30

So it may really come from that Chap01 that kuromitsu so much seemed to see as unnecessary, I guess?
I've yet to see the episode, still got a few other series from yesterday to catch up... Friday & Saturday are my cross, this cour...

ookamigirl · 2015-04-05, 06:04

Arslan's face looks very much like Edward Elric's from FMA.
That's pretty much the only reason I decided to check it out.
Lots of characters..
Prince Arslan is totally nothing like his father.
The other kid was more interesting then Arslan.
They do make a good duo though..
Will give this a few more episodes.

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ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Arslan's face looks very much like Edward Elric's from FMA. That's pretty much the only reason I decided to check it out. Lots of characters.. Prince Arslan is totally nothing like his father. The other kid was more interesting then Arslan. They do make a good duo though.. Will give this a few more episodes. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

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Maxulous mono no aware Join Date: Jun 2014	Kaji sounds so fierce! I think I'm looking forward to that most of all - this role could be for him what Yagami Light was for Miyano Mimoru. Here's hoping. Apprehensive about obtrusive CG battles, but I've survived worse.

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RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	That may be your point of view, for others it may be the exact opposite or at least less of a negative point of view. I prefer to see how things may fare before starting to throw bombs everywhere. Expectations are simply that...

2015-03-23, 07:29	Link #125
kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	Well yes, it's my opinion, I didn't say anyone had to share it... Knowing what I know I have an idea as to what to expect and I know where I stand on that, especially since, as I said earlier, my main issue with this anime is something I don't see changing in the show. But I still hope for the best from the part where the story moves beyond the manga and into novel territory.

2015-04-05, 05:06	Link #137
RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	I'm finding it pretty weird that nobody is commenting about Ep01... Is something wrong? The episode has been out for a little while...

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AntonKutovoi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Vladimir, Russia Age: 30	OST is great and visuals and voice acting are good. That is all I can tell so far, since this episode is a filler and the actual series starts next week.

2015-04-05, 05:30	Link #139
RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	So it may really come from that Chap01 that kuromitsu so much seemed to see as unnecessary, I guess? I've yet to see the episode, still got a few other series from yesterday to catch up... Friday & Saturday are my cross, this cour...