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Old 2011-12-26, 11:13   Link #14961
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Rule 1 was usually translated as no military deployment of IS.
No military deployment for OFFENSIVE purpose, Military I.S. is allowed for self-defense against invading forces that use I.S. themselves. (so it's like Cold War once again...)

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Rule 2 was all IS research must be shared.
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rule 4 only technology researched in ISA can be kept secret.


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@ Senpai - Thanks, I'll keep those in mind. Let's change topic: Should Imouto Shiki have obvious robotic parts or not?
Why should she? She's a projection
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:16   Link #14962
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first time I read rule 2 and 4 I was like OwO??? wtf? It made no sense to me. To be honest, to some extent right now it still doesn't.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:18   Link #14963
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@ Senpai - Eh? She's a real person in Daydreams.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:20   Link #14964
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That's why Personal I.S. is given to noobies Cadet Rep than a senior/professional one. The longer they keep the research a secret, the better.

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The more reason she doesn't need robotic parts. Maybe for Life Arc if you do it then, allow tragic, dramatic robot reveal.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:25   Link #14965
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@ Senpai - What robotic parts? Headphones for ears?
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:32   Link #14966
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Eh..... wait..... headphones? Vocaloid allusion FTW!

(In Macross Plus there's an AI Idol Singer that is Yandere for Main Character Isamu, maybe we can have some shoutout without Yandere part )
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:32   Link #14967
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can we still consider personal machines military grade or not? Considering that silver gospel is an experimental military type, it still took 6 of them to take it down. (5 while it was only in first shift)
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:33   Link #14968
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:35   Link #14969
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@ Demi - No, the Military grade one's are kept in the home country. They're using the test units.

@ Senpai - Any other parts?
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:38   Link #14970
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...so...that means they're weak?
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:38   Link #14971
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@ Treme - How many fics are you planning?

@ Demi - More like new. They're the same strength as the regular, but they don't have the advantage of constant maintenance.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:40   Link #14972
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can we still consider personal machines military grade or not? Considering that silver gospel is an experimental military type, it still took 6 of them to take it down. (5 while it was only in first shift)
Personal is usually better than older generation MP unit... in CERTAIN aspect, and full of flaws.

Silver gospel was a perfected next gen military unit and put it simply has better stat than everyone else and no flaw, no wonder you need a lot of specialist unit using combined battle tactic.

(Though if Houki is at the level of Tatenashi in skill, with Akatsubaki, I expect she could solo it herself )
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:44   Link #14973
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this is confusing @_@ That means Ichika and his ladies are holding state of the art military weaponry. But it still took 6 of them to take down a similar grade, though experimental, AI. Granted they were merely students but it shouldn't have been on a level they couldn't handle. They had a super soldier for crying out loud!(indulge me for a bit)

Another confusing issue I just realized. Silver Gospel is a confidential court-martialable top military secret. But research was not conducted in ISA. Shouldn't the researchers be court-martialed for breaking Alaskan Treaty?
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:48   Link #14974
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Skill does not equate sync level. It just means she has an easier time accessing her unit's capabilities. Laura could still beat her though sheer training alone.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:48   Link #14975
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Yeah I wonder that, topping the icing of the cake, a new HANDHELD version of the wing-like weapon is developed secretly after Gospel is taken down. Damn it America.

We really have to fix that issues...
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:50   Link #14976
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Gentlemen... canon is breaking itself in half. I believe we have just succeeded in dividing by z- *implodes*

EDIT: Another thing. Does the silver gospel also suffer the 800 shield point limit? Because when I read Ichika's comments, it seemed that military IS were... less restricted in the IS basic capabilities.(which may explain the hard time they had but Ichika only mentioned that the military IS may have a longer running time than they did.)
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:55   Link #14977
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Yeah, breaking in half.

For example, the H4X-ness of Silent Zephyr can be attributed to the fact that it's Blue Tears... without it's weakness. 1. It has defensive Bit 2. Has projectile weapon 3. has decent CQC weapon. That's because most of the technology is TRANSFERED from the data provided by Blue Tears.

Gospel's entrance really makes me wonder however, especially the fact that Chifuyu said it's top secret...

EDIT: Yes it has (shown in anime anyway), but since even Uchigane has 800.. my assumption that some I.S. are more efficient at using their Shield Point than other.
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Old 2011-12-26, 11:57   Link #14978
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Don't forget that this is a harem novel. The military stuff comes second. Why do you think there's no completely serious story apart from Jak's?
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Old 2011-12-26, 12:01   Link #14979
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Well it was mentioned that Blue Tears isn't a lone unit but the bit units themselves. It was also mentioned that the Blue Tears and Schwarzer Regen were competing for mass production as Europe's main stay IS unit after moving on from the Rafael. We can probably treat Silent Zephyr not as a true military version of Blue Tears, but rather something akin to Char Aznable custom or something. Thus would it be safe for me to assume that the personal units ARE military grade, just... not combat ready?

Other than that... Seriously! Silver Gospel!

Thus far only Blue Tears seems to show a proper unit that's being customized at the homebase with data from the IS rep. Has anyone tried to make their own 'suped up version of the rep candidates' machines?

EDIT: @era-era: Hence I asked you to please indulge me. =)) Plus I'm killing 3 birds with 1 stone. Add to pages, cure my boredom and gain writing material.
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Old 2011-12-26, 12:04   Link #14980
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Nope, there's Clarissa's Schwarzer Zweig, but the name can give implication that's it's actually Second Gen instead.

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Yeah we knew, it's just that when you establish a rule, you have to obey it.
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