2011-10-23, 14:57 | Link #141 | |
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My complaint is similar to this. It's how girls in anime have a tendency to either have large breasts to a silly degree (or worse), or to be downright flat-chested. I'd prefer more "happy medium" girls. To demonstrate what I mean by "happy medium" girls, let me use this handy-dandy Saki Bust chart schematic that can be found here. (I'd put that image into the body of the post except it's too big) As much as I like Nodoka (girl on the far left, biggest breasts), her breasts are large to the point where it's getting a bit silly. However, most of the girls on the right half of the schematic are quite flat-chested (sadly, I'd have to include Saki herself here). What I'd like to see are more anime girls with breast sizes somewhere between Mihoko Fukuji (3rd girl form the left) and Hisa Takei (auburn-haired girl, almost right in the middle). Stealth Momo and her beloved senpai Yumi (6th and 7th from the left) have just about perfect breast size, imo.
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2011-10-23, 17:01 | Link #142 | |
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To use that breast chart you posted, I would find anything right of Yumi acceptable, though I am perfectly fine with (or actually prefer) completely flat-chested characters, like Koromo Amae on the far right, as well.
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2011-10-23, 17:34 | Link #143 | |
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I'd just like to see fewer extremes (and yes, completely flat-chested is just as extreme as the "beach ball size" category, imo), and more happy mediums.
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2011-10-24, 03:29 | Link #145 |
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For me, I think there is are too many flat chest around. While I don't like humongous chest, I find it ridiculous the other way as well, especially the way most anime "lead" has become flat-chested more often than not.
The funny thing is that Saki graph actually portray this pretty well. While Nodoka is obviously too big, and I'm fine with everyone but her, everyone right of Saki is too small for the comfort, and really, you don't see people that flat nowadays. But it really comes down to how the breast is drawn, some artist just have knack on drawing huge tits and still manage to make it look good...
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2011-10-24, 09:01 | Link #146 | |
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Figures I've seen for Japan are pretty consistent with these American data, though this finding may not generalize outside of Japan.
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2011-10-24, 10:22 | Link #147 |
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^UK will be exception, they are suffering from young mothers here.
But considering the way they all act here, almost every foreigner has their mouth agap and barely have any respect for them =/ There are exceptios of course!
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2011-10-24, 12:51 | Link #148 |
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Anime cliche: The guy is accused of being a pervert.
What is it?: There always seems to be some situation where the guy trips and falls on the girl, or the girl trips and falls on the guy, or even some situation where the girl reveals herslef to the guy on accident. No matter the circumstances, even when the guy is trying to tell the girl that he can see her stuff, the guy is ALWAYS accused of being a pervert, even though it was an accident, usually caused be the girl. The accusation is generally followed up by a face slap. Worst offenders: I think it would be easier to list the ones where this kind of thing didn't happen. Notable exceptions: Can't think of any right now, but then again I am at work. Variants: Guy walks in on girl while she is dressing/undressing because she didn't bother to lock the door. What makes it popular: No idea. Reason that I hated it: Because I really get annoyed when people blame others for their own actions. Relax girl, it was just an accident. The guy wasn't trying to do anything to you. Is the hate really worth it?: For me, yes. I might be treading on Grumpy Old Man/Get Off My Lawn territory here, but I really think the world would be a better place if people owned up to their actions, accidental or not.
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2011-10-24, 13:03 | Link #149 | |
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Anyway, I pretty much agree with Undertaker here.
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2011-10-25, 15:58 | Link #150 | |
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2011-10-26, 09:56 | Link #151 |
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Anime cliche: Screaming/squaling fangirls
What is it?: Usually when a hot dude and rarely a hot chick come into view group of crazy girls goes KYAAAAH! and follow that guy or chick wherever he or she goes. Worst offenders: Usually shows that aimed for young females like Ouran High Host Club and Special A but it also makes its way to some male-oriented shows like Infinite Stratos(where lots of girls goes crazy for Orimura-sensei who is a woman and some of the fangirls went too far as want to punished by her so bad) for example. Notable exceptions: Persona 3(game). Akihiko actually hates the girls went crazy for him and he even shoo'ed them personally(though ironically that makes his fangirls to love him more). Variants: Screaming/squaling fanboys. Genders were reversed but still as bad. Kitto Kitto Kaede everyone? What makes it popular: No idea, except crazy people are crazy for everything. Reason that I hated it: Fangirls, both fictional and real can be annoying. Who don't hate yaoi fangirls except yaoi fangirls themselves? Is the hate really worth it?: Absolutely though I want to introduce a whole new cliche: A good-looking guy or girl get boo'ed by the crowd and they say " Good looks alone don't make you a good person!". |
2011-10-26, 14:02 | Link #152 |
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Damn, I watched MM! and so many of these cliches were in there.
Tsundere Screaming fangirls/boys Overreaction to sweets Painfully cheesy shyness Delayed saying "I love you" to continue series The girls being upset about their "sizes" Guy being accused of pervert (although he sorta is) One that I noticed too is: Anime cliche: Character asking intimate question while looking like they're gonna turn super sayian. What is it?: When a character is afraid of asking a question, usually because of embarrassment or expressing feelings and they're like, "....IS IT OKAY IF I CALL YOU LATER???" With their eyes scrunched in. Worst offenders: I just saw this a ton from Yuno(?) in MM! Notable exceptions: Maybe somebody else knows. Variants: Unusual combinations of dialogue content and expressivity. What makes it popular: I guess it creates a dramatic effect or to emphasize the character's struggle to express true feelings. Reason that I hated it: Cmon man, no one talks like that. It's kinda off putting too, to see someone yell, "I like you" like they're angry or something. Is the hate really worth it?: I imagine it could be done tastefully, but it gets tiring when the same character does it X number of times in 1 episode.
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2011-10-26, 19:27 | Link #153 |
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What is it?: Moral faggotry
Worst offenders: Okazaki Tomoya Notable exceptions: Exceptions to that? Impossible. Variants: Orimura Ichika What makes it popular: Who knows? Reason that I hated it: They're turning a good setting into a terrible one or make something bad even worse, usually the latter. This includes shouting at others in the style of "HOW COULD YOU DO SOMETHING THIS DETESTABLE?" when the reasons are absolutely clear to anyone, be it world conquest, get the girl you want, money or simple misunderstandings. The "villain" is doing it because he wants to do it and surely won't change his way just because you yell at him. Suck it up and smack him on the head or something but don't.try.to.argue.with.them. The Orimura Ichika version tries to show the other person what they're doing wrong by getting on their soft side (not exactly sure how to express that better) with an extremely wrong argumentation which makes them suddenly realize that their actions cause trouble to everyone. Ichika is a good example because those things usually happen because he caused them himself but somehow make it seem like the other person is responsible for them. Houki is pretty brain dead at times as well but that's another matter. Is the hate really worth it?: ABSOLUTELY. What is it?: The helper syndrome Worst Offenders: A typical theme in shounen anime. Notable Exceptions: There are probably some. What makes it popular: It gives people the "hero" feeling. Reasons I hate it: There are good and bad variations of this. The good ones are those who want to help someone who is close to them like a sibling or a good friend. No the sister of your best friend isn't close to you. The bad ones are those who see a person they have never seen before being in trouble (maybe save them from thugs or whatever) -so far so good- but then investigate on their own and stir up even more trouble until they face the villain at the end. Why would you mess with the problems of other people? You're just making them worse for them even if you somehow end up resolving the whole thing. Is the hate really worth it?: ABSOLUTELY |
2011-10-26, 23:25 | Link #154 |
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Anime Cliché: Overused/redundant flashbacks!
What is it? Showing a quick flashback of a certain event even if that just happened a minute ago, or longer ones just from the previous episode. Worst Offenders: Too many, such as Mirai Nikki (I still love the show!), and mainstream anime. What makes it popular? I have no idea, either a low budget or amnesiac target audiences. Reasons for my hate: This has got to be one of my biggest pet peeves for some reason. It really disturbs the flow of the story and ruins the mood for me when every other scene is just a quick snapshot of what just happened. I don't care if some character is recalling some sort of kiss or fight that just played out right in front of me, just show their damn facial expression and get on with it! This also includes the stupid inner monologues that play over it and those accursed "recap" episodes.
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2011-10-27, 01:27 | Link #155 | |
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Ichika goes to an all girls school. He doesn't have to dress like a girl or act like one, he can just be his boyish self without no problems. He's surrounded by cute girls all day including the 5 representatives from France, England, Japan (his home court), China, Germany, and the sister of a childhood (guy) friend gunning after him. Plus he has a loli meganekko teacher included in his harem. I mean a meganekko, how can you resist. He never takes the time to realize how good he's got it. I mean millions if not billions would kill to be in his position, but he's like "Eh, it's a school. Girls no big deal." I'm sorry IS fans but that dude just gets me so mad!!!
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2011-10-27, 22:04 | Link #157 |
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OH YEA! I haven't seen this one posted yet:
Anime cliche: Character flying naked, or floating no where naked. Worst offenders: Can't say for sure, I have seen it randomly tons of times though. Notable exceptions: Air, Soul Eater, I think it's meaningful here. What makes it popular: Well I think it can be symbolic, but sometimes it's just like, "Come on, do you really have to be naked doing that? Everyone does it" Is the hate really worth it?: It's okay if its significant to the plot, I mostly wanted to add it to the list of cliches.
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2011-10-28, 04:56 | Link #158 | |
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2011-10-28, 12:06 | Link #159 |
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Anime cliche: Unnmarried Teacher
Worst offenders: Any shoene aimed at kids Notable exceptions: Any shoene since they are mostly kids shows. What makes it popular: I don't know what is the stigma about not being married but usually women in those works are portrayed as lonely, oversexed individuals. Is the hate really worth it?: I am not too critical of it since it is a cultural thing especially in most countries.
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2011-10-29, 21:29 | Link #160 | |
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Although I would agree that this is more or a culture thing. Stereotypical views in East Asian country is that women should get married before they hit 30, and when they get married, they usually quit their job and stay home as home-maker. The popular view is that any women(men as well) who can't get married by then is relationship-challenged and usually face social pressures from their parents and peers...
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