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**Klashikari** · 2006-12-30, 14:19

Itsuki :
1) sounds serious / dramatic oO
2) completely missed the scene just like skane pointed earlier.
3) flat -_-
4) my choice (lacks a bit of itsuki's enthousiasm though)
5) while this one is nice, several parts are wrong to me (you feel the dubber was a bit exegarating his speech. i thought the guy was snubbing or something... geh...) and he is utterly too old... (i thought that guy was dubbing a 20 years' old itsuki -_- )

Mikuru (this WILL be hard...)
1) scary...
2) this one wins by default... could be way better but, it's the best among the 4.
3) like deathkillz said : old.
4) strident, my ears hurt...

Yuki (shouldn't be that hard) :
1) good performance
2) accent, variable voice tone => fail.
3) i liked the tone, but too old...
4) that one is a joke right? missed completely the boat.

i'm ready for some butchered AV dub for haruhi and kyon (ho boy... i doubt any of the kyon sample will have the required amount of sarcasm...which is the true essence of kyon... no, the narration itself ! >_<)

KaneDragon · 2006-12-30, 14:21

Going with the flow, I voted #5 for Itsuki. Smooth, smug, and least mangling of "Haruhi". I couldn't believe that it was tied with #1, though-- #1 doesn't have any energy.

onepiecelover · 2006-12-30, 15:07

NOOOOOOO they are going to screw up this wonderful anime in English so bad =/

Sheba · 2006-12-30, 15:20

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Originally Posted by onepiecelover

NOOOOOOO they are going to screw up this wonderful anime in English so bad =/

Trust me, French had it worse. The two only french dubs I remember being good are Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Cowboy Bebop.

FatPianoBoy · 2006-12-30, 15:53

Some people have been complaining about none of them being great, but I thought #5 absolutely nailed it. A better fit than any of Mikuru's or Yuki's, anyway.

JediNight · 2006-12-30, 18:04

I voted #2 for Mikuru as well -- she had the best voice quality fitting Mikuru and wasn't overly squeeky about it. (Gotta admit that even in Japanese Mikuru has a very high voice anyways)

Yuki I chose #3 -- Both #1 and 3 had good presentation of the lines, but I felt that #3 just sounded more like Yuki.

Itsuki as everyone is saying is a hard choice. I don't think any of them were super close, but I picked #5. #1 I don't see why its getting so many votes, the voice was too high IMHO. #5 I think given a little more work can do just fine though -- he just needs to sound a bit more soft and friendly. Itsuki has a deeper voice, but he doesn't sound harsh when speaking -- if #5 is really Crispin Freeman, then he needs to shake his usual hard tone for characters. (FMA and Chrono Crusade for example)

waffo · 2006-12-30, 22:36

Geez, Itsuki's is so difficult. None of them have the same voice so I had to go by attitude. I voted for five after eliminating all the weird pronunciations of Haruhi I heard.

izzyntsherandom · 2006-12-30, 23:03

One is too... serious for Itsuki. He sounds like he's sighing a lot in his lines (not breathy, more the mood of sighing), whereas Itsuki smiles all the time. (And he sounds a lot like Yuki Sohma's dub voice [Fruits Basket], or is it just me who thinks that?)
Two is too... earnest. And worried. And eager to talk. XD
Three: To me the best of a not-great-bunch, but I seem to be in a very small minority here on this ^^;. I do see why people are calling him bland, but he has the right amount of amusement in his voice when talking about how quickly Mikuru and Yuki fell in with Haruhi, and I think he said the "for now I'll give you the short version" line the best of the five too. He delivered the "sometime in the future" line well too- "well" meaning "like Koizumi in the Japanese" ^^
Four: Very fast! Didn't give the impression of the laidback, seemingly-carefree, constantly-smiling-with-his-eyes-closed-looking-serene ESPer we all know and love. I can't help imagining Kyon making "internal" comments about his speed of talking >_< (Plus, "Haruwi"? Or was it "HaruWii", and someone's got Nintendo on the brain? XD)
Five: too old-sounding- his voice is too deep, or rich, or maybe it's the precise quality of the American accent, but he does sound too old for the part. However, he's got the carefree angle down, but I'm not getting much of a "mysterious" vibe, and... it's more "careless" rather than "carefree". I dunno, it just doesn't sit right. And as has been said above, he has that "smug confidence" sound about him, but it's too in-your-face to me. To me, Itsuki's always seemed like quite a subtle character in his own way- certainly more subtle than this.

One thing that I've always noticed about Itsuki's voice is that he sounds perpetually slightly amused. That's what stands out most to me, and I think 3 captured that element of him best. Hence why I voted for him. ^^

Mikuru: voted 2; the best, and a good voice for her I feel. Very true to the Japanese, especially compared to the others. 3, as has been said, was too old; 4 was a little pouty/whiny; and is it just me or is 1 Hilary Haag? She sounds very like Megumi in RahXephon to me...

Yuki: voted 3. Two is too sleepy/floaty/something, 4 sounds too "human"- as in, like a normal human character- 1 falls down mostly in the way she says "ordinary humans like you"... There's too much variation in the tone of her voice. Having said that, 3 sounds a little too robotic- just a little, but it's there. Still, 3 is my favourite Nagato voice, with 1 being second.

Quajafrie · 2006-12-31, 03:06

And now... Kyon's voice. That's where the hard part begins.

Voice 1 is just nothing.
Voice 2 is good, but nothing compared to Sugita-san's voice, really.
Voice 3, 4 and 5 (especially 5) have no relation to Kyon's character.

I voted for the second one, but it's just better than the others, not really that good.

aegismode · 2006-12-31, 03:14

Kyon's voice... #2 by far. It matched Kyon best I thought. All other put too much breathiness into it and that's not very Kyon-like. Far from perfect, but I think I'm able to watch the series with this Kyon voice. With all others I find myself trying to turn it off as soon as I'm done with the first sentence.

Funny this wasn't hard at all. I thought Yuki's was much harder to decide.

Senovit · 2006-12-31, 03:18

1: i imagine kyon's voice to be a bit deeper than that, but not a bad voice
2: kind of gaspy at first, although the second half is pretty good
3: ewwww x_x
4: too slow in my opinion, doesn't really seem to be kyon
5: it's like he's not even trying x_x

sigh.. none really seem to match kyon very well, but my vote's for 1, he seems to be the closest to matching kyon's japanese voice

Skane · 2006-12-31, 03:45

Wow... I wasn't expecting the No.2 choice to be so far in the lead. I voted for the first one.

1) To me, this felt the most natural. When Kyon is narrating in the series, he is talking to the viewer and thus he needs to have clarity in his narration. His in-anime speech needs some working, but from what I hear from this clip, I am willing to give him a chance.

2) His in-anime speech is good, but his narration is poor. A huge bulk of Kyon's dialogue is in the form of narration, and if I have to plant my ears to the speakers in order to hear him, I think that is not quite right.

3) Zzz... bad acting. They probably inserted him into this audition out of pity or something.

4) A bit... too dramatic. The voice is good, but wrong for Kyon. Kyon is more of a nonchalant character( although he secret desires extraordinary events) and the voice has to reflect that.

5) Ironically, he has a narrator's voice, but the wrong kind. He's the kind of narrator that is supposed to be a disembodied voice, and not an actual character.

Cheers.

Ultima_Rasengan05 · 2006-12-31, 05:36

uh oh, I wonder what that
means.....maybe we finally get tohear Haruhi's VA candidate
in the polls.....
but as for the recent candidatesfor Kyon's VA none of them were close to his tone....except maybe for no. tw

Deathkillz · 2006-12-31, 06:47

kyon ~

1) i like this one ~ like skane said its more "natural" in a way

2) well he doesnt seem to be "narrating" like kyon...more like talking to someone else to me ~ but atill hes good
3) really bad...no emotion at all! T_T sounds like hes being forced to say those lines

4) over the top and doesnt fit kyon...hes more of a sloth type to be someone so energetic
5) FAIL!

darkchibi07 · 2006-12-31, 07:27

Hey, isn't #5 the guy in the video promo in the website?

Bloodseeker · 2006-12-31, 08:49

Mikuru: All of the voices are too high piched to sound natural in English... You can make a girl sound sweet without giving them that kind of voice!

Yuki: #1. #2 is terrible.

Itsuki: #1, I guess.

Kyon: No preference.

IchiKyo · 2006-12-31, 09:42

Mikuru : 2
Yuki : 3 but 1 is dragging kyon >_<
Itsuki : 5
Kyon : 2

typhonsentra · 2006-12-31, 09:47

Kyon 5 sounds like he recited his lines into a cheap PC mic.

**Klashikari** · 2006-12-31, 09:58

kyon
1) to me, the narration failed. While it fits an usual narration, it doesn't really suit kyon, because you kinda don't really sense what kyons is feeling. and weirdly enough, i almost didn't feel any difference between the narration and "in anime" speeches.

2) WINS ! i really liked the narration (unlike the previous one, you do feel kyon's puzzled sensation, along with some boredom)

3) what the..? did he acted flat like that on purpose? -_-"

4) just like skane said... that guy spoke like... he was dramatic and even panicked (especially the "why?!" , while kyon is supposed to be puzzled, but annoyed, not stressed)

5) This is even worse... not only it doesn't fit kyon, but it's rather opposite to his manner of speaking.

Dagger · 2006-12-31, 10:33

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2006-12-30, 14:19	Link #21
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Itsuki : 1) sounds serious / dramatic oO 2) completely missed the scene just like skane pointed earlier. 3) flat -_- 4) my choice (lacks a bit of itsuki's enthousiasm though) 5) while this one is nice, several parts are wrong to me (you feel the dubber was a bit exegarating his speech. i thought the guy was snubbing or something... geh...) and he is utterly too old... (i thought that guy was dubbing a 20 years' old itsuki -_- ) Mikuru (this WILL be hard...) 1) scary... 2) this one wins by default... could be way better but, it's the best among the 4. 3) like deathkillz said : old. 4) strident, my ears hurt... Yuki (shouldn't be that hard) : 1) good performance 2) accent, variable voice tone => fail. 3) i liked the tone, but too old... 4) that one is a joke right? missed completely the boat. i'm ready for some butchered AV dub for haruhi and kyon (ho boy... i doubt any of the kyon sample will have the required amount of sarcasm...which is the true essence of kyon... no, the narration itself ! >_<) __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2006-12-30, 14:21	Link #22
KaneDragon (RAWR)&rawr Join Date: Dec 2005	Going with the flow, I voted #5 for Itsuki. Smooth, smug, and least mangling of "Haruhi". I couldn't believe that it was tied with #1, though-- #1 doesn't have any energy. __________________

2006-12-31, 03:45	Link #32
Skane Anime Snark Join Date: May 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 41	Wow... I wasn't expecting the No.2 choice to be so far in the lead. I voted for the first one. 1) To me, this felt the most natural. When Kyon is narrating in the series, he is talking to the viewer and thus he needs to have clarity in his narration. His in-anime speech needs some working, but from what I hear from this clip, I am willing to give him a chance. 2) His in-anime speech is good, but his narration is poor. A huge bulk of Kyon's dialogue is in the form of narration, and if I have to plant my ears to the speakers in order to hear him, I think that is not quite right. 3) Zzz... bad acting. They probably inserted him into this audition out of pity or something. 4) A bit... too dramatic. The voice is good, but wrong for Kyon. Kyon is more of a nonchalant character( although he secret desires extraordinary events) and the voice has to reflect that. 5) Ironically, he has a narrator's voice, but the wrong kind. He's the kind of narrator that is supposed to be a disembodied voice, and not an actual character. Cheers. __________________ Hearthstone Battletag: Skane#1425 [Can't GIF This], [Jail's House of Rock], [Kanon In The Snow], [She Ain't Dead Yet... She's In Quantum], [She Stabs] Founder of "The Cult of Psycho-Moe", Member of "ARIA the Social Group" & the "Belkan Saint Church".

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Ultima_Rasengan05 Version 3.0 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hawaii Age: 36	uh oh, I wonder what that means.....maybe we finally get tohear Haruhi's VA candidate in the polls..... but as for the recent candidatesfor Kyon's VA none of them were close to his tone....except maybe for no. tw Last edited by Ultima_Rasengan05; 2006-12-31 at 05:52.

2006-12-31, 06:47	Link #34
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	kyon ~ 1) i like this one ~ like skane said its more "natural" in a way 2) well he doesnt seem to be "narrating" like kyon...more like talking to someone else to me ~ but atill hes good 3) really bad...no emotion at all! T_T sounds like hes being forced to say those lines 4) over the top and doesnt fit kyon...hes more of a sloth type to be someone so energetic 5) FAIL! __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-12-30, 15:07	Link #23
onepiecelover Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Classified Info :P Age: 35	NOOOOOOO they are going to screw up this wonderful anime in English so bad =/

2006-12-30, 15:53	Link #25
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	Some people have been complaining about none of them being great, but I thought #5 absolutely nailed it. A better fit than any of Mikuru's or Yuki's, anyway.

2006-12-30, 18:04	Link #26
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	I voted #2 for Mikuru as well -- she had the best voice quality fitting Mikuru and wasn't overly squeeky about it. (Gotta admit that even in Japanese Mikuru has a very high voice anyways) Yuki I chose #3 -- Both #1 and 3 had good presentation of the lines, but I felt that #3 just sounded more like Yuki. Itsuki as everyone is saying is a hard choice. I don't think any of them were super close, but I picked #5. #1 I don't see why its getting so many votes, the voice was too high IMHO. #5 I think given a little more work can do just fine though -- he just needs to sound a bit more soft and friendly. Itsuki has a deeper voice, but he doesn't sound harsh when speaking -- if #5 is really Crispin Freeman, then he needs to shake his usual hard tone for characters. (FMA and Chrono Crusade for example)

2006-12-30, 22:36	Link #27
waffo 25% Unknown Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: End of the World Age: 35	Geez, Itsuki's is so difficult. None of them have the same voice so I had to go by attitude. I voted for five after eliminating all the weird pronunciations of Haruhi I heard.

2006-12-30, 23:03	Link #28
izzyntsherandom Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	One is too... serious for Itsuki. He sounds like he's sighing a lot in his lines (not breathy, more the mood of sighing), whereas Itsuki smiles all the time. (And he sounds a lot like Yuki Sohma's dub voice [Fruits Basket], or is it just me who thinks that?) Two is too... earnest. And worried. And eager to talk. XD Three: To me the best of a not-great-bunch, but I seem to be in a very small minority here on this ^^;. I do see why people are calling him bland, but he has the right amount of amusement in his voice when talking about how quickly Mikuru and Yuki fell in with Haruhi, and I think he said the "for now I'll give you the short version" line the best of the five too. He delivered the "sometime in the future" line well too- "well" meaning "like Koizumi in the Japanese" ^^ Four: Very fast! Didn't give the impression of the laidback, seemingly-carefree, constantly-smiling-with-his-eyes-closed-looking-serene ESPer we all know and love. I can't help imagining Kyon making "internal" comments about his speed of talking >_< (Plus, "Haruwi"? Or was it "HaruWii", and someone's got Nintendo on the brain? XD) Five: too old-sounding- his voice is too deep, or rich, or maybe it's the precise quality of the American accent, but he does sound too old for the part. However, he's got the carefree angle down, but I'm not getting much of a "mysterious" vibe, and... it's more "careless" rather than "carefree". I dunno, it just doesn't sit right. And as has been said above, he has that "smug confidence" sound about him, but it's too in-your-face to me. To me, Itsuki's always seemed like quite a subtle character in his own way- certainly more subtle than this. One thing that I've always noticed about Itsuki's voice is that he sounds perpetually slightly amused. That's what stands out most to me, and I think 3 captured that element of him best. Hence why I voted for him. ^^ Mikuru: voted 2; the best, and a good voice for her I feel. Very true to the Japanese, especially compared to the others. 3, as has been said, was too old; 4 was a little pouty/whiny; and is it just me or is 1 Hilary Haag? She sounds very like Megumi in RahXephon to me... Yuki: voted 3. Two is too sleepy/floaty/something, 4 sounds too "human"- as in, like a normal human character- 1 falls down mostly in the way she says "ordinary humans like you"... There's too much variation in the tone of her voice. Having said that, 3 sounds a little too robotic- just a little, but it's there. Still, 3 is my favourite Nagato voice, with 1 being second.

2006-12-31, 03:06	Link #29
Quajafrie Not here anymore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 32	And now... Kyon's voice. That's where the hard part begins. Voice 1 is just nothing. Voice 2 is good, but nothing compared to Sugita-san's voice, really. Voice 3, 4 and 5 (especially 5) have no relation to Kyon's character. I voted for the second one, but it's just better than the others, not really that good.

2006-12-31, 03:14	Link #30
aegismode Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Kyon's voice... #2 by far. It matched Kyon best I thought. All other put too much breathiness into it and that's not very Kyon-like. Far from perfect, but I think I'm able to watch the series with this Kyon voice. With all others I find myself trying to turn it off as soon as I'm done with the first sentence. Funny this wasn't hard at all. I thought Yuki's was much harder to decide.

2006-12-31, 03:18	Link #31
Senovit Murk Loar Graphic Designer Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 34	1: i imagine kyon's voice to be a bit deeper than that, but not a bad voice 2: kind of gaspy at first, although the second half is pretty good 3: ewwww x_x 4: too slow in my opinion, doesn't really seem to be kyon 5: it's like he's not even trying x_x sigh.. none really seem to match kyon very well, but my vote's for 1, he seems to be the closest to matching kyon's japanese voice

2006-12-31, 07:27	Link #35
darkchibi07 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 38	Hey, isn't #5 the guy in the video promo in the website?

2006-12-31, 08:49	Link #36
Bloodseeker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Mikuru: All of the voices are too high piched to sound natural in English... You can make a girl sound sweet without giving them that kind of voice! Yuki: #1. #2 is terrible. Itsuki: #1, I guess. Kyon: No preference.

2006-12-31, 09:42	Link #37
IchiKyo 大いなる希望の力、キュア・ドリーム! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France - Metz Age: 34	Mikuru : 2 Yuki : 3 but 1 is dragging kyon >_< Itsuki : 5 Kyon : 2 __________________ Livejournal Precure. - Precure VS All Stars Incredible Roster.

2006-12-31, 09:47	Link #38
typhonsentra Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA	Kyon 5 sounds like he recited his lines into a cheap PC mic.

2006-12-31, 09:58	Link #39
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	kyon 1) to me, the narration failed. While it fits an usual narration, it doesn't really suit kyon, because you kinda don't really sense what kyons is feeling. and weirdly enough, i almost didn't feel any difference between the narration and "in anime" speeches. 2) WINS ! i really liked the narration (unlike the previous one, you do feel kyon's puzzled sensation, along with some boredom) 3) what the..? did he acted flat like that on purpose? -_-" 4) just like skane said... that guy spoke like... he was dramatic and even panicked (especially the "why?!" , while kyon is supposed to be puzzled, but annoyed, not stressed) 5) This is even worse... not only it doesn't fit kyon, but it's rather opposite to his manner of speaking. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2006-12-31, 10:33	Link #40
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