2012-08-11, 17:55 | Link #201 |
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I've always thought hiding SSIDs was one of those silly efforts at "security" that add nothing at all. If you want to make your network secure, use WPA encryption and either strong passwords or certificates. Hiding the SSID might keep little Johnny next door from discovering you have a network, but it does nothing to improve the security of corporate networks.
That said, the fact that Win8 cannot connect to networks with hidden SSIDs is even sillier than hiding the IDs in the first place!
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2012-08-12, 01:19 | Link #202 |
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Actually, many companies specifically wait until SP2. That just seems to be Microsoft's historical "it finally works okay" point for conservative usage.
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2012-08-13, 01:41 | Link #204 |
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Vista SP2 was released in 2008, XP SP2 was released in 2004.... many companies have not approved Win7 for their internal use yet. I'm not certain where the humor is... many companies have internal mission-critical applications and validation of an OS upgrade is a slow, careful process.
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2012-08-13, 01:53 | Link #205 |
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Minor correction: Vista SP2 was released in 2009. 2008 saw the release of Vista SP1 alongside Server 2008, as well as XP SP3.
At the rate Microsoft is going with their OS cycle, I'm guessing XP is the last version to have more than two major service packs. Vista stopped at SP2 and 7 may not even get SP2 if there's no news by 2013. I wonder how they're planning to update/refresh Windows going forward, starting with Windows 8, seeing as how WinRT is still an immature development platform. Waiting 2-3 years for Windows 9 would not be good. They need something more than what a service pack usually offers for a Windows installation. Last edited by monster; 2012-08-13 at 02:03. |
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Well, according to a third-party article regarding Windows RT:
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2012-08-13, 15:58 | Link #207 |
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I know of several companies that are thinking of just jumping forward into a Win7 verification/validation process since it is proving relatively stable from the get-go. But their IT people are saying it will be years before they consider Win8.
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2012-08-14, 15:23 | Link #209 |
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after using my copy of the RTM, I noticed a speed bump. Windows 8 scales even better than the Release Preview. the system is really snappy and...faster than when I was using the RP. Also, the start screen looks very trippy in the RTM.
About the Start Screen: When I first used the Developer Preview, I absolutely hated the Start Screen: It was awkward, and pretty much a hassle to use, but fast forward months later and I really appreciate the new Start Menu(yes the Start Screen is basically an improved Start Menu). it's really fast, and it's powerful, especially the search capabilities. also, I seem to also appreciate the fact that there is no tug-of-war between the 3d desktop (dwm) and the old UI. you can feel that windows 8 feels snappier because they've done away with the GDI-made graphics
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2012-08-15, 03:53 | Link #212 |
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I'm not sure I even remember that. People do complain about new stuff though. Thing is, it's not just a Start Scree, that's the main problem. They didn't just replace the start menu, they are apparently trying to lockdown windows through the metro store.
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2012-08-15, 04:22 | Link #213 |
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That may be true for Windows RT, but not for Windows 8. In Windows 8, the Windows Store provides links to acquire submitted Desktop apps. Also, in both Windows 8 and Windows RT, commercial non-Desktop apps are licensed for up to 5 Windows 8 and/or RT devices at any one time. So, at least with Windows 8, it actually provides more choice regarding apps than previous versions of Windows.
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and there's no such limitation for Windows 8, you can still pretty much install stuff the old way, and then some. It's lighter than W7 because it does away with the GDI 2d interfaces that were in W7, it's prefetching capabilities are great compared to its predecessor. And for AMD FX Series users: It has substantial gains, since W8 plays better with Multicore architectures.
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Again, I point back to the times when people didn't like the same start button in favor of the Program Manager: It's not that bad of a change since the Start Screen is just an improved Start Menu. Whereas back then, the differences between the Program Manager and the Start Menu were really big. In the Start Menu vs Start Screen comparison, It's the same menu presented in 3D-Acceleration, and hell the Start Screen can bring up the program you want faster than the Start Menu can, I've tried it using a 4 yr. old computer vs an i3 with 8GB RAM. It's the same Start Menu, but with faster search times and more search options.
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2012-08-15, 09:27 | Link #220 | |
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we will see weather is this is failure or not. if it is, MS probably will separate both UI for tablet and desktop. if it success. they probably still keep it but with some streamlining
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