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In cases where the convict is found to pose a clear and present danger to society, the sentence may include a provision for "preventive detention" after the actual sentence. This is not considered a punishment, but a protection of the public, and elements of prison discipline that are not directly security-related will be relaxed for those in preventive detention. The preventive detention is prolonged every two years until it is found that the convict is unlikely to commit further crimes. So essentially it is possible to keep someone in detention his/her whole life (at least in Germany).
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2011-07-23, 15:26 | Link #15082 |
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Seems the Oslo-attacker's world of warcraft-account has been identified by fellow players/guildies who recognised him from guild forums and ventrillo. The guy played on the server: Silvermoon EU, had a lvl 85 mage called Conservatism. It's such a strange feeling to realize that behind the posts of what appear to be a normal player is such a monster. Weird how small the world has become through internet.
Also some of his political views have been collected from a political message board (Norwegian text), which confirm his anti-islamic, extremist right wing views. http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/ |
2011-07-23, 15:28 | Link #15083 |
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Of course it has to be on a percentage scale, after all a flat tax for a middle class citizen could be 10% of their salary, wheras a corporate executive that makes ten times more would only pay 1% of their salary, which is therefore basically the tax breaks that I mentioned above. However, there shouldn't be more of a tax percentage for the wealthy, because that would be total discrimination.
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2011-07-23, 15:46 | Link #15084 |
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Why would a progressive tax be total discrimination? With the same logic you could argument that being rich discriminates the poor. It would be nonsensical to tax someone who can barely survive with 30% and then give hime the same 30% as a means of welfare. This is worse for this person's dignity then not to tax him/her at all.
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2011-07-23, 16:06 | Link #15085 | ||
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2011-07-23, 16:11 | Link #15086 | |
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2011-07-23, 17:16 | Link #15087 | |
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While we're on this, the republicans also have to drop their opposition to "death taxes", or as it's more usually called inheritance tax. Inheritance tax is the only thing that prevents estates from snowballing. I'd keep it high. Just as the sins of the father should not be visited on the son, why should the success of the father be visited upon the son? What has the child done to earn his inheritance? NOTHING. And further, most people will never have to pay significant inheritance tax anyway. Right now the threshold in the US is 5 million! Personally I think that threshold should be lowered... Poor widdle rich yale boys, you can't pay 2 million out of your 10 million inheritance! At some point it all stops being about personal freedom and a smaller efficient state, and just starts being about unbridled greed. I have sympathy for much of what libertarians and even the tea party talk about, but they have to recognise that their cause has been hijacked (if not outright created and orchestrated) by rich guys who don't give a damn about them. EDIT: That's not to say the inheritance tax system shouldn't be changed, for instance I'd change it to tax the receiver, not the estate. So if a large estate is broken up into many pieces it's not taxed. So the tax serves it's purpose of preventing the accumulation of assets under a single name. Last edited by DonQuigleone; 2011-07-23 at 17:28. |
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2011-07-23, 18:35 | Link #15089 | |
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Especially since her father had been trying to get her clean for years. If nothing else, may her death along with tons of other rock stars dying cause of drug abuse serve as a reminder. With this on top of the sad events in Norway, one really needs to treat their lives with more care, we only have the one shot and no one knows if it'll be robbed or lost or when...
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2011-07-23, 19:05 | Link #15090 | |
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2011-07-23, 19:23 | Link #15091 | ||
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2011-07-23, 19:46 | Link #15092 | |
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This is correct, but it is like that because the USA has had a serious influence in German laws since 1945.. (Not starting about wars, now is NOT the time) which ended in 1990 when Germany re-united.
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2011-07-23, 22:23 | Link #15095 |
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I don't think than the ''fixe rate or progresive rate'' thing is the big problem, the big proble is more about thoses loophole. Than you taxt the big boy at X% or Y% wouldn't change a thing if they still have way to avoid to pay tax.
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2011-07-23, 22:53 | Link #15096 | |
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2011-07-23, 23:22 | Link #15097 |
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Right. I don't blame Google or any company for doing this, either. It's not their fault; they are corporations, and corporations are amoral. This choice makes the most business sense, and it's not illegal.
I blame the government for not plugging these loopholes. The fact that these loopholes exist means the government is not doing its job. Edit: Were I in politics, I would lower corporate taxes and close these loopholes, but do so in such a way that the total taxes collected were higher than before. The Republicans would have a very hard time crying foul, and more tax revenue would be generated.
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2011-07-23, 23:53 | Link #15098 |
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Except that was in one of the recent proposals, and Republicans cried foul and shot it down. The proposed percentage I believe was between 21% and 29% (the specifics weren't listed in the article), down from 35%, but in exchange loopholes would have been closed.
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2011-07-24, 00:00 | Link #15099 | |
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Warning: This is a long, and if you're not interested in the subject matter (maybe even if you are); boring, post. Feel free to ignore the wall of text and proceed with your discussion on economics, on which I will plead ignorance.
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After loading the explosives and equipment into his truck he wrote "Exhausted!!! But it was a good workout." He also used smileys such as ":-)" and expressions such as "lol", which is just unnerving to look at in retrospect. He doesn't really strike me as the kind of guy who'd do something like this either reading through his entries, but then again, what was I expecting? Some sort of emotionless machine, straight out of a poorly written action movie, I suppose. Reality can be so much more complex, and what truly went on in his mind may be beyond any of our reckoning. He claims that Europe is going through a Civil War, which he claims will end multiculturalism and what he refers to as "cultural Marxism." He claims that this struggle has already begun (it'll supposedly end in 2083 according to him, now there's a specific prediction!) During this period, multicultural cities will be defeated, Islam expelled from Europe, and a new beginning will await the survivors. According to this manifesto, it would seem that he places a heavier emphasis on Christianity as part of his ideological utopia, but it was still premature of the media to label him a Christian terrorist before this was released. A short excerpt: "I am quite certain that I will be praying to God while I race though my city, guns blazing, while a hundred armed protectors of the system give chase to stop or kill me." Another, much more worrying one: "The time for dialogue is over. We gave peace a chance. The the has come for armed resistance." He goes on to pinpoint the American intervention in Serbia as the beginning of the European Civil War that has been going on ever since. He claims to be a member of a group that call themselves the Knights Templar Europe, (he was a member of the Norwegian Freemason lodge, but was obviously expelled immediately after news of his crime surfaced.) Worryingly, he also details contacts he has had with other cells of his network, which he claims is international and founded in London in 2002 with 12 members from 10 European nations. It is, of course, highly possible that he has fabricated and/or exaggerated any or all of these claims.
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2011-07-24, 00:26 | Link #15100 |
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Well.. at the least if one knows anything about the historical Knights Templar --- this may be a disturbing development. The influx of "islamic" immigrants into Europe (especially without any cultural assimilation or integration) has been steadily dialing up the pressure on the existing northern european cultures for years. If one really thinks a way of life is vanishing (rather than evolving)... then it could get pretty nasty.
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