2012-10-27, 13:42 | Link #1468 |
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I finally just finished v11, after putting it off for so long. Behold, my worst fears have been realized. (Though I thought Kyousuke's backstory was nice). I'm basically not against a work of fiction exploring a romantic relationship between siblings and I thought a few such Japanese and Korean works were rather touching, but the sad thing about this series is that it wasn't clearly positioned as such in the first half, and the hints of it possibly turning into something 'serious' only started in the second half (after volumes 5/6), though it was still possible to downplay those 'hints' with various explanations, until now. So count me as one of those disappointed in the series. If it were more clearly positioned as such right at the beginning, I might have enjoyed this series in a different light (though I truly really want to read a family/kinship-oriented reconciliation story between a pair of siblings). So I feel like I'm trolled. To top off my disapointment, the author had to use the love fest plot device (it's just simply too mind-boggling for me to include nearly every female character, even the likes of Kanako, into the 'harem', regardless of how the author tries to justify how 'they' all are in love with Kyousuke). Even if v12's ending is such that the girls help the siblings to have a normal sibling relationship, the damage has already been done.
So hear me now Fushimi, YOU SUCK! P.S: My Oreimo series is for sale now at half price. Only local pickup (Singapore). Interested people please PM me. They are all in excellent condition. |
2012-10-27, 15:51 | Link #1469 | |
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I guess all I would say is that the foreshadowing was definitely there from the start, but it was subject to interpretation. Over the course of the story, it was progressively making the revelations more and more specific, until one of the two interpretations became less likely. So while it didn't go the way you wanted, I'm not sure that saying the author "sucks" is particularly fair in this regard. Now, the "love-fest" thing may be a different issue... but I don't think that really relates to Kirino, who has really been the main subject from the get-go.
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2012-10-27, 16:06 | Link #1470 | |
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As for Ore ... currently gritting my teeth as I read - but I also am convinced the author is a Grand Troll in his own right so I'll wait til the Fat Lady leaves the stage and the lights go off.
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2012-10-27, 20:18 | Link #1471 | |
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2012-10-27, 22:08 | Link #1473 |
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It's too late to turn back, larethian-san! >:3
I haven't read much about the [summaries of] the light novels, but Kuroneko's decision to let Kirino have Kyousuke is a bit weird to me. (She reminds me of Minori, who let go of her feelings for the sake of her friend, although Kuroneko seems to have Ami's perceptiveness.) I refuse to believe that this move by Fushimi is "trolling"; it's just that his decision to move the plot like this differs from how most people would see the ending.
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2012-10-28, 23:01 | Link #1474 |
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I will stick to the master-cockblock for any serious relationship developing for Kirino x Kyo : P-A-R-E-N-T-S.
I dare anyone to tell me their parents (with emphasis in father) would accept, and more, let happen, such a thing. I mean, really people, do you think a laid back love-comedy such as OreImo will pull a Koikaze here(for anyone that have read/watched it) ? If author is aiming for a Happy Ending for everyone, a Koikaze-ending is not the answer. I don't see how Kirino and Kyo being alienated from their family will be a happy ending. Now if he is aiming for a WTF!!-ending that is a whole different matter. |
2012-10-29, 03:16 | Link #1475 | |
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First, what is the nature of the feelings that Kirino and Kyousuke have for each other? Second, how is the novel going to resolve those feelings and bring the story to a close? I think it's been basically agreed by most of us that any sort of potential Kirino ending is probably going to be rather vague and open-ended. Like, for example, she goes off to pursue her modelling gig (as currently planned) and Kyousuke chases after her or goes with her, The End. This way it basically side-steps the issue entirely, and can be left up to interpretation where they go in terms of next steps. There are also of course other ways of acknowledging their feelings but still having Kyousuke pick someone else as a romantic partner, and that's certainly possible too. Heck, he could choose someone else as a romantic partner and still chase after Kirino and it wouldn't even be so out of character. I think the key point, as far as it goes, is that it's no longer possible for the story to pretend that the feelings Kirino and Kyousuke have for each other are pure sibling love, whether they take the next step or not. In the end, being a romantic comedy, I'm not expecting total and complete resolution from the ending anyway. It'll probably resolve some things, but in another way be "life goes on"... and that's probably fine for this story. Like most romantic comedies, it's a lot more about the tease (and the shipping) than the actual romance.
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2012-11-13, 18:52 | Link #1478 | |
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2012-11-13, 20:06 | Link #1479 | |
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Not sure.. any is fine. I don't know anything about the 11th... other than it's in publication
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2012-11-14, 23:43 | Link #1480 |
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There seems to be a lot of people who think a Kirino ending is possible, and well I can see where they are coming from, I don't think the author is willing to go there. Well I am sure that he will mend their relationship and confront the feelings that Kirino has, I don't see it going any further then that. Honestly, I was thinking it could go either way, but what made me think it won't happen in the novels actually has nothing to do with the novels, but the games, the second one's Kirino route to be precise.
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Also I noticed I am quite late on this train, I really shouldn't have left these forums for like 3 months
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