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sasahar17 · 2013-03-02, 03:17

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Originally Posted by Dragonkid11

I should assume that a certain Creator flipped his BETA control console when he/she/they(?) saw that.

Nope. I'm pretty sure the if the BETA creators saw, their first reactions would probably be... '

', just like us.

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Why is Tasha a Major and why is she still alive when Zhar are supposed to have been lasered to death.

I'm wondering about this as well. Given that the revelation that Tasha was still alive was the very last line of that chapter, this was obviously meant to be a cliffhanger for the readers. Obviously PaulXion knows what he's doing, so the question remains; how is Nastassja standing there talking to the characters?

My guesses:
1) She really is the sole survivor of Zhar, and the brass decided if Nastassja was badass enough to survive that kind of mess (BETA, Twins, Everyone out to kill her), she deserves to be a Major.
2) Nastassja was actually a KJB spy all along and helped the twins ice Zhar when the order came down from the top to silence everyone in Zhar… except herself of course.
3) She's a lab grown supersoldier clone of the orginal Nastassja, who died horribly as per in canon, and now is here to test herself against Yuuko’s ‘supersoldier’
4) Nastassja Ivanova: The USSR's answer to Silvio Orlandi, complete with pheromone social enhancers, video recorders in her eyeballs, some kind of vodka dispenser on her person and orders to videotape all the Valkyries in the nude ‘for make benefit of Great Far East Soviet Army morale reasons’.

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

It looks like paulxion_sensei plans to focus on the side characters of TE rather than the main cast. Giving them more spot light than the one usually seen.

Giving ‘side characters’ spotlight is something I can wholeheartedly get behind. There’s to hoping Tarisa, Vinnie and Stella show up!

MrTerrorist · 2013-03-02, 05:50

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Originally Posted by John117xCortana

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7112821/70/

FINALLY ! THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR ! TE CASTS MAKE THEIR APPEARANCE !

Yeah!

-after reading the chapter-

Boo! No Yui and Yuuya. Where are they?

Wild Goose · 2013-03-02, 08:37

If there is any justice in that world, Yuuya and Yui have just exchanged their dog tags, and are on leave, queutly hiding from everyone.

John117xCortana · 2013-03-02, 12:41

Which they are.

tsunade666 · 2013-03-02, 15:05

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Boo! No Yui and Yuuya. Where are they?

honeymoon in America

Anime wise Tasha wasn't shown how she died (well she was killed surely by the scarlet twins) but the chapter itself said that "where did you get that information?" the information is easily being manipulated and unless you see the bodies itself or the tsf. Well you can't tell. Plus I doubt they even saw the remains on what the scarlet twins did to her. Because tsf damage can be identified and differentiated from beta damage. So they mostly cover that up.

Like how they cover they was sacrifice to bulging_eyes_kun

MrTerrorist · 2013-03-04, 08:34

Well this is an interesting fanfic.

On the bright side

Spoiler for plot:

John117xCortana · 2013-03-04, 21:40

I'm having doubts humanity would accept the offer. Especially when it means giving up the ability to make G-bombs.

tsunade666 · 2013-03-04, 23:03

Majority of the one being oppressed and just want peace will take it but to those who lost their love ones and to those honed by their country to fight won't accept it.

Then add it up the leader of shit countries are shit leaders that want their wallets full WON'T ACCEPT SUCH ENDING!

sasahar17 · 2013-03-05, 15:51

Just popping in a short snippet from my Macross/Muv Luv universe.

Spoiler for Anchors Aweigh!:

I wanted to work the Chair-force in, but decided it was long enough.

John117xCortana · 2013-03-05, 20:01

What gun did the Porter use ?

Wild Goose · 2013-03-05, 21:07

If my guess is correct, the Willie Dee's had her main gun swapped; instead of the five inch gun carried by the standard Arleigh-Burke (I'm guessing iis a Flight IIA, btw), I suspect it's a railgun of some sort, given what Project Valkyrie's been tinkering with.

Just goes to show: nations may work together in the spirit of international cooperation, but the US Armed Forces will never lose their rivalries.

Darthtabby · 2013-03-06, 00:16

That excerpt made me look up info on William D Porter, which led me to information about the WWII destroyer that was named after him.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19637...same-ship.html

Now granted Cracked is a humor sight, and they tend to play things up rather than striving for absolute historical accuracy but wow....

MrTerrorist · 2013-03-06, 05:34

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Originally Posted by Darthtabby

That excerpt made me look up info on William D Porter, which led me to information about the WWII destroyer that was named after him.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19637...same-ship.html

Now granted Cracked is a humor sight, and they tend to play things up rather than striving for absolute historical accuracy but wow....

That is one one unlucky ship. Lol even it's MLA descendant suffers the same fate.

wavehawk · 2013-03-06, 06:28

The fanfic I am writing is killing me.

No, literally. It is very very danged painful to write. I just hope to heck it'llbe all worth it when I'm done.

sasahar17 · 2013-03-06, 18:30

The Willie Dee was really something else. Real life really can be stranger than fiction.

Speaking poo which, I wonder what the Muv Luv versions of legends like 'Mad' Jack Churchill and Audie Murphy would be like?

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Originally Posted by wavehawk

The fanfic I am writing is killing me.

No, literally. It is very very danged painful to write. I just hope to heck it'llbe all worth it when I'm done.

Painful as in 'ow, my hand is broken so it is physically painful to write/type/whatever', or 'oh god, this sounded so much better in my head and this is painful to look at'?

Chin up mate! It can't all be that bad.

Wild Goose · 2013-03-06, 20:53

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Originally Posted by sasahar17

The Willie Dee was really something else. Real life really can be stranger than fiction.

Speaking poo which, I wonder what the Muv Luv versions of legends like 'Mad' Jack Churchill and Audie Murphy would be like?

I think they'd probably still be the same; World War 2 in Alternative appears to have been similar to World War 2 in our timeline, albeit sans nukes and with the Yamato-class battleships surviving.

In other news, I now want to write Shirogane Hikaru cracklulz.

wavehawk · 2013-03-07, 02:17

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Originally Posted by sasahar17

Painful as in 'ow, my hand is broken so it is physically painful to write/type/whatever', or 'oh god, this sounded so much better in my head and this is painful to look at'?

- Neither. It's "Painful as my psyche is cracking as I emote and act out these characters in my head and write it all down only to break down into sobbing tears at the loss of my sanity" painful.

sasahar17 · 2013-03-07, 03:37

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I think they'd probably still be the same; World War 2 in Alternative appears to have been similar to World War 2 in our timeline, albeit sans nukes and with the Yamato-class battleships surviving.

Not quite what I meant, but I looked over my post and figure it was my bad. What I meant was that, aside from the 'Seven Heroes of Britain', what other 'fearsome names' are there among the world's heroes? I wanna see a Scottish TSF pilot who goes into battle with an actual Claymore (one for posturing in her cockpit, and a TSF sized for to actually smash BETA with), some bagpipes and a cockpit full of HAGGIS!

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Originally Posted by wavehawk

- Neither. It's "Painful as my psyche is cracking as I emote and act out these characters in my head and write it all down only to break down into sobbing tears at the loss of my sanity" painful.

Wow, what are you writing? You need some comedy.

wavehawk · 2013-03-07, 04:25

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Originally Posted by sasahar17

Wow, what are you writing?

- not telling until I finish. As to why, I'll quote this from TVTropes as this underlies my feeling of writing this fic very well:

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An odd example occurred with Thomas Harris when writing Red Dragon. He planned out the scenes by imagining he was an invisible observer watching the whole thing play out ... except he just couldn't shake the idea that unlike with the other characters, he wasn't 100% invisible to Lecter. Even though this was a fictional character Harris himself was creating, Hannibal Lecter was still watching him.
- Most writers have this particular fear... they just don't talk about it.

wavehawk · 2013-03-09, 19:37

Partial first draft. This was the easy part. The bulk of the story is what's been driving me close to suicide.

-fic edited- see new post.

2013-03-02, 08:37	Link #763
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	If there is any justice in that world, Yuuya and Yui have just exchanged their dog tags, and are on leave, queutly hiding from everyone. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-03-04, 08:34	Link #766
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Well this is an interesting fanfic. On the bright side Spoiler for plot: Takeru and Sumika in MLU actually survive after the BETA Superior, rather than turn them into brains in a jars, turns them into human/BETA hybrids. Along the way, the Superior after learning from Takeru about humans, realizes humans are living beings and realizes his mistake of attacking them. To make amends, he sends Takeru as his Emissary to negotiate peace with humanity in-exchange the BETA will mined all of the G-Elements on Earth and leaving their planet forever. However, if humanity refuses and continues to attack them, the BETA will exterminate them to cover up and hide from their creators that they kill living beings. __________________

2013-03-04, 23:03	Link #768
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Majority of the one being oppressed and just want peace will take it but to those who lost their love ones and to those honed by their country to fight won't accept it. Then add it up the leader of shit countries are shit leaders that want their wallets full WON'T ACCEPT SUCH ENDING! __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2013-03-05, 15:51	Link #769
sasahar17 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia	Just popping in a short snippet from my Macross/Muv Luv universe. Spoiler for Anchors Aweigh!: Yui had been apprehensive when she originally learned that her old unit, the White Fang Test Squadron, would be representing Japan in Blue Flag ’02. Yui had remembered their ultra-nationalistic views about the Empire, the very same ones she used to have, and was more a little concerned about how they’d portray themselves in the multinational exercise. The recent coup in her homeland probably didn’t help their views any. In fact, Yui had been so concerned she had flown back to Yukon Base herself at the very last minute, with only Nastassja accompanying her, to see them in person. As one of the foremost advocates of multi-national cooperation and international unity, Yui realized that if the White Fangs went and caused an international incident, it could undermine her work. Thankfully, her fears were unfounded. “Remember, we are here representing the Empire on the global stage,” First Lieutenant Amamiya, Yui’s old subordinate and now the successor as the commanding officer of White Fang, addressed the twelve members of the squadron. “The eyes of the world will be on us as representatives of Japan, and we must show ourselves to be honorable, just and willing to work for the betterment of all mankind.” Yui nodded her head approvingly from the dark corner of the room, unnoticed by the White Fangs. She really should have gone out there to make her presence known to her former unit, but Yui had decided against it. Project Valkyrie was a UN program at its heart, and had no bearing on an IRG test squadron using equipment developed and built solely in Japan. “I’m quite suprised, Captain. Your friend seems like one of the more reasonable IRG officers I’ve seen in a while.” Nastassja Ivanova whispered quietly from where she stood beside Yui. “With the way the IRG has been behaving lately, even Makabe’s Wolves have been complaining about them.” “Yes, it is quite a relief.” Yui agreed, now satisfied that the White Fangs weren’t about to turn Blue Flag into another public relations fiasco for her battered nation. “Now, let’s hop over to the briefing room next door shall we? I want to see how Focker’s briefing his men.” “Understood, ma’am.” The Jolly Rodger’s were the other team that had Yui worried, but for a very different reason. The US Navy’s VF-103 Jolly Rodgers Squadron and the US Marine Corps VFMA-232 Red Devils would be participating in Blue Flag. Despite being combat squadrons who hd actual frontline experience, they had been pulled from their deployments and ordered to send a flight each to take part in the war-games for one reason: testing the VF-8 Crusader II Variable Tactical Fighter in the exercises. As Project Valkyrie’s pride and joy, Yui was very concerned about how the Crusader would be received by the public. Yui already knew from past experience it was a given that the Crusader would flatten any TSF in a straight out fight. The EF-2002 Dragoon, the only other VTF participating, was the only machine that stood a chance at matching it. Unfortunately, she was also aware from her past experiences that the public eye had a habit of misconstruing the facts into something that was, shall we say, ‘less than favorable’. It would only take one incident at Blue Flag to completely ruin the Crusader’s image in the public eye. Despite the rugged image of hard-drinking, hard-fighting, mean devil dogs that Marines liked to portray themselves as, Collins always had a humble air about him. No PR debacle would come from the Red Devils. No, if there was going to be any kind of mess that would result in mountains of paperwork on Yui’s desk, it would be from the squadron that painted the mark of a pirate on their fighters and proudly named bored the name of the pirates flag. “This is the room.” Nastassja announced, discretely opening the door to the briefing room just enough for the pair to enter. Inside, the layout of the room was much the same. Again, their observation was muted since the attention of the mixed group of VTF pilots and their Radar Intercept officers had been drawn to the charismatic man at the head of the room. “Remember ladies, we aren’t only representing the interests of the Navy in this exercise, but also the UN’s Project Valkyrie,” Lieutenant Commander Roy Focker, CO of the Jolly Rodgers and lead pilot of its VTF detachment ,‘Skull Flight’, spoke clearly to his men. “I don’t want to see any foul play against these guys. Japanese, Germans, French, Chinese, Arabs… they are our adversaries in this exercise, and our allies out of it. At the end of day, don’t that we’re all on the same team.” “Focker’s being responsible… for once.” Nastassja quipped. “Looks like I was worried for nothing.” Yui agreed. Well it seems like the world was on the right track after al- “Our real enemy is the Army.” What. “Those landlubbers have been hogging all the good stuff and lording that god-forsaken Raptor of theirs over us for years! We didn’t have enough cash for Raptors and carriers, so we built carriers and they had the nerve to laugh at us!” Focker said, with the largest grin Yui had ever seen on him. “Now that we have the Crusader and the Over-Hornet, that’s going to change, both here and at Red Flag! Everyone else is part of the sideshow, but its open season on the Infinites!” What? “Finally, the chance to avenge all those f**ing gay sailor jokes!” One of the VTF pilots whooped happily. “I’m going to hunt down those Infinities and nail their heads onto a pike!” “Hear, hear!” Another pilot agreed heartily. “I’m sick and tired of getting my ass bounced by a bunch of no talent hicks who think that landing on a kilometer long runway makes them hot sht!” “That’s the Spirit!” Focker grinned. “The next time the budget review comes up I want the Joint Chiefs to think that the Army are a bunch of has-beens with nt balls to speak of and give them scraps!” What? “Remember boys! We have one objective and one objective only: it’s CRUSHING THE ARMY!” Focker pumped a fist into the air, earning a loud cheer from the entire room and a befuddled stare from Yui and Nastassja. WHAT? -=- “Anchors Aweigh, my boys! Anchors Aweigh!” “Farewell to foreign shores, We sail at break of day 'ay 'ay 'ay!” “O'er our last night ashore, Hail to the foam,” “Until we meet once more, Here's wishing you a happy voyage home!” -=- Lieutenant Commander Roy Focker sat side by side next to 1st Lieutenant Keith Blazer at the bar counter, both men looking quite tipsy. All around them were various members of their respective flights, all doing their level best to drown their sorrows together. In fact, Sharon Heim was so currently so drunk she was snuggling up to a similarly passed out Navy pilot, one Shin Kudo, making cooing sounds that sounded suspiciously like ‘Yuuya’, ‘Leon’ and ‘threesome’ to a sober person. Her boyfriend, Leon Kuze, was bent over one of the tables out cold and was in no way able to complain or protect himself. Normally, two groups from different branches of the Military ending up in the same bar would be cause for a bar fight, but today was a special day, where the Army and Navy had put forward a truce so they could wallow in each other’s shared misery. Finally, this uncomfortable silence was broken when Roy tried drinking from his shot glass and found it empty. “Blast. And I’m still sober. Figures.” “Here, on me.” Keith said, then handed Roy what was left of his bottle of whiskey. Roy prompt poured what was left of the bottle to the old fashioned glass while Kieth signaled the bartender for another. The bartender, who really should have thrown the lot of them out of for their unsightly behavior by now, only gave the rabble sympathetic looks as he went and complied. “Thanks, Army.” “Don’t mention it, Navy.” As if fate was mocking them, the radio decided to start up a news report describing their woes. “And in a startling upset in the Blue Flag exercises the, the US Marine Corps VFMA-232 Red Devils emerged triumphant, beating out every other team in the competition. This included their Navy and Army compatriots, the VF-103 Jolly Rodgers and the 65th Combat Training Battalion’s Infinities, both of whom are highly decorated units. Using America’s new Crusader II Variable Tactical Fighter, the Red Devils proved the lethality of the VTF platform in all forms of combat. At their celebration dinner, their commanding officer, the newly promoted Captain Wilbert D. Collins, had this to say…” “Here’s a toast Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children!” The unmistakable voice of Wilbert D. Collins hollered through the radio. “Suck it, Navy! Who’re the Top Guns now?” “F**ing devil dogs. Where did they learn to dogfight like that?” Keith grumbled. Roy, being privy to the fact that Wilbert was a close friend of one ex-NUNS Marine pilot, had a few suspicions. However, the point was moot since he had a bigger worry. “Blazer, shoot me now. Collins and I serve on the same boat. He’s going to make my life hell when we both get back to the Kennedy.” “No. I ain’t dealing with this sht alone.” Keith grumbled. “Live long and accept your defeat like a man.” “On the bright side, at least we didn’t lose to the Chairforce. God almighty, if that happened…” “Amen.” “Any space for a UN Army Captain who needs a drink, badly?” asked a young woman’s voice, with a mild Japanese accent. Kieth and Roy turned to the newcomer, then motioned to an empty seat beside them. The attractive young woman plopped herself down and quickly ordered the most expensive bottle of sake she could find. “So what happened to you?” Roy asked. And then the bloody radio came on again. “Breaking news! According to reports from the Atlantic Fleet, there has been an assassination attempt on the President! Details are scarce at this point, it is clear the President and his staff survived the attempt…” “…Sht.” Yui muttered. Keith and Roy stared at her. Roy, being one of the people who worked closely with Project Valkyrie had a few ideas on what just went wrong. “Let me guess. Some idiot on the Willie Dee used the new gun you installed on it recently?” asked Roy. he winced sympathetically when Yui’s reply was to drop her forehead on the bar counter. “The William D. Porter* accidentally fired a live round at Air Force One while your President was passing through the Atlantic. Something to do with redeeming themselves for launching torpedoes at the Enterprise,” Yui informed them. “Nobody died because his fighter escort had Crusaders in it, but now CNN is all over the story. I was so busy making sure you jokers didn’t do anything stupid for the last week I forgot to keep an eye on that trice damned ship and its trice damned crew!” “Ah, figures. It’s a Democrat in the White House right now.” By this point, Yui was so agitated she wasn't even speaking English anymore. <I should have put it on the Iowa. Why didn’t I put it on the Iowa? What madness possessed me to think that the great and majestic USS William D. Porter was a good idea? That name has a history of calamities as long as it’s service history! Just because it’s the newest Arleigh-Burke class destroyer… I’m an idiot!> Kieth and Roy looked each other and decided that they felt much, much better now, and were filled with compassion and understanding. Wordlessly, they communicated their understanding: that as officers and gentlemen, they ought to render aid and comfort to a beautiful young woman in distress... “Sucks to be you.” “Better you than us.” And the night wore on. I wanted to work the Chair-force in, but decided it was long enough.

2013-03-05, 21:07	Link #771
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	If my guess is correct, the Willie Dee's had her main gun swapped; instead of the five inch gun carried by the standard Arleigh-Burke (I'm guessing iis a Flight IIA, btw), I suspect it's a railgun of some sort, given what Project Valkyrie's been tinkering with. Just goes to show: nations may work together in the spirit of international cooperation, but the US Armed Forces will never lose their rivalries. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-03-02, 12:41	Link #764
John117xCortana Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Which they are.

2013-03-04, 21:40	Link #767
John117xCortana Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I'm having doubts humanity would accept the offer. Especially when it means giving up the ability to make G-bombs.

2013-03-05, 20:01	Link #770
John117xCortana Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	What gun did the Porter use ?

2013-03-06, 00:16	Link #772
Darthtabby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	That excerpt made me look up info on William D Porter, which led me to information about the WWII destroyer that was named after him. http://www.cracked.com/article_19637...same-ship.html Now granted Cracked is a humor sight, and they tend to play things up rather than striving for absolute historical accuracy but wow....

2013-03-06, 06:28	Link #774
wavehawk Some say I'm the Reverse Join Date: Jul 2006	The fanfic I am writing is killing me. No, literally. It is very very danged painful to write. I just hope to heck it'llbe all worth it when I'm done. __________________ "We haven't been properly introduced..."

2013-03-09, 19:37	Link #780
wavehawk Some say I'm the Reverse Join Date: Jul 2006	Partial first draft. This was the easy part. The bulk of the story is what's been driving me close to suicide. -fic edited- see new post. __________________ "We haven't been properly introduced..." Last edited by wavehawk; 2013-03-11 at 01:30. Reason: Removed draft, new post pupdates this.