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Even if it was said 2 years ago it would still stand to the present day. He's going back on his words but still it's hard to hold those words against him cause he was just a greenling then, too young to know better. But the fact stands that Haruto dumped his current girlfriend so he could run back to his ex-girlfriend. Whether one wants to say that is wrong or not it's up to them but he did it in a pretty bad manner. Kiyomi and Asuka are probably the only people that have a right to be angry at Haruto where as Takashi and Akari only have reason. And reason why Kiyomi has a right is cause of what Haruto said 2 years ago.
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2011-07-01, 19:22 | Link #8003 | |
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2011-07-01, 19:41 | Link #8004 | |
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And that was the reason why i wrote this a couple of pages ago. "Thatīs what iīm saying. She is the girlfriend of their friend and they not only donīt hang out with her, they only "know" her for a couple of days on their trip to Hiroshima and since college started and that is maybe for 4 months. Except for Kiyomi. She knows her far longer. And that was the reason why only Kiyomi was there and not his so called friends. Asuka was only talking with Kiyomi and we know that Kiyomi was always jealous of Yuzuki because Kazama loved Yuzuki and she hated her for that. Who knows exactly what Kiyomi told the others and how much she exaggerated. And Takashi seems to be Kiyomis slave. We havenīt seen Akari either. It was only Takashi that said that Akari thinks the same." This is only my explanation of the situation and i could be wrong. It still doesnīt make it right how his "friends" are behaving. |
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2011-07-01, 21:02 | Link #8005 | |
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I actually have no probs with Haruto and Eba getting together, I don't think Haruto breaking up with Asuka was wrong just done rather badly or poorly but like everyone knows break ups are a messing thing. I just don't get why people think theres no reason to be angry at Haruto when there is. Sure you can think he's got his right which he does but still gotta understand that there is reason for the gang to be angry at him for what he's done. Doesn't mean you have to like the fact theres reason there but know it's there. I was gonna go into reasons why I thought Kiyomi asked that question about before but it's late and I can't be bothered to(and I doubt I'll be bothered to write one up later) so I'll concede that it is a "rhetorical question" guess we shouldn't hold the past too tightly.
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2011-07-01, 22:26 | Link #8006 | |
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2011-07-01, 22:59 | Link #8007 |
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I think a lot of people are missing the point.
Haruto's friends aren't mad at him because of a single act. They are mad at him because of his pattern of behavior over a long period of time. They are sick of him and are disgusted at his tendency to make poor choices and hurt others. They would prefer to get rid of him rather than be put through the emotional wringer once again. It's a bit harsh and much of the blame lies with them for being busybodies and gossips instead of minding their own business and letting Haruto live his own life. Aside from Aoi, Rin, and possibly Takashi and Akari, the rest aren't directly involved and should act accordingly. No one has a right to tell Haruto who to date or who to fall in love with, but there are some decisions that are out of bounds. Moving in with Eba would qualify as such and I'm afraid that's where we're headed next. |
2011-07-01, 23:05 | Link #8008 |
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Right now his friends are really mad at him and aren't thinking clearly. Takashi and Akari should come around at some point. Rin will as well (for Eba). And I don't think Aoi ever ditched Haruto; he was the one who moved out.
I think we should give them some time to sort things out. My hunch is that they'll forgive him pretty quickly. |
2011-07-01, 23:44 | Link #8009 | |
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2011-07-01, 23:57 | Link #8010 |
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Haruto has explained everything he needed to. Sometimes it's just better to tell the truth and make a clean break.
Takeshi and Akari are just frustrated with him and need a little more time. Once they cool off I think they will gradually mend things with Haruto. It might take a little while before they're best buddies again, though. |
2011-07-02, 00:02 | Link #8011 | |
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Kiyomi: So! Go apologize to her and make up! You are just being fooled by Eba-san right now. If you calm down and think about it you'll see that you are wrong... And read what Takashi said after he told Haruto that Kiyomi was the one that told him what happened. Spoiler for chapter 142 page 12:
Takashi: If you donīt patch things up one more time, Akari in I wonīt be your friends anymore. A simple threat. Go back to her or we wonīt be your friends anymore. Where is the problem of moving in with the person you love? |
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i should have said that this "innocent guy" is also a friend of theirs... hwooo! damn, i need to be more elaborate so other minds could function... asuka= innocent guy - victim haruto= your friend - fool - selfish friends= you - uhmmm... hurt/dumped = punched so what will you do in this situation? will u help punch the innocent guy? wont stop your friend cause u dont care, its their problem? Quote:
haruto has a change of heart, he knew he was guilty of his selfish actions and knew the outcome, that's why he cant face them or talk back... just accept it, dude... Asuka was the victim (and a friend) and needs the support rather than haruto (even if he's a friend) Quote:
check the nanami and hiroshima arc, eba's return to tokyo, haruto going to tokyo, and the last 30 chapters... that sums up mostly the whole manga, so reread it... advice? he nearly punched akari for this and luckily ended up just pushing her aside.. he would rather take Rin's and Shiori's plots than advice from his childhood friends... Quote:
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of course they shouldnt be neutral... there was a victim of one's selfishness...and that victim is a friend. Quote:
it would really be impossible to put yourself in one's shoes if u havent experienced it or dont have an idea about it. why did u beat the other guy? cause you favored your bestfriend and u dont like it when someone call him names.. the fact u didnt care about your bestfriend hurting other people is that u yourself tolerate his foolishness... is this dumped girl your friend? u didnt support her when she's crying, depressed and alone? or u just dont care... as expected... Quote:
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2011-07-02, 02:37 | Link #8014 |
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I personally think, everything will be depend on Haruto action.
Which one would he choose, 1. Talk to Asuka to patch things up, and continue moving with Eba. 2. Avoiding Asuka to make sure he didn't need her on his life anymore. I wonder, what will happens if Asuka parents visiting her ? ^^; Will Haruto receive a Falcon Punch ? |
2011-07-02, 02:43 | Link #8015 |
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I don't know why people are stressing over the Haruto/Asuka break up, I agree that the break up was not clean and was harsh for Asuka but u cant blame him as it was the right thing to do though the manner that it was done might not have been agreeable.
from the spoilers i can say that Haruto/Yuzuki relationship might work out pretty well this time around. I do believe him moving out would be a step forward for them and would promote character development for both of them, if Takashi and Akari don't come around then it seriously undermine the life long friendship that they have. |
2011-07-02, 03:13 | Link #8016 |
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Haruto breaking up with Asuka was the best thing for both of them... give them time and they will let it slip... Asuka would find a better partner and succeed in softball.. takashi will get a gf, kiyomi moves on from kazama and finds a bf, nanami and akari would also find good bf's... they won't have time to think about haruto and eba... if they meet again, they'll just, "duh, everyones happy now, no need to bring up the past"...
but for now, haruto should face the consequence as it is still fresh... sneaking, awkward moments, guilt... it's normal... this would be their last obstacle as they both confirmed their feelings.. finally, its gonna end.. i just hope that Seo would not pull an arrange marriage for Eba because her father wanted to save his losing company, so Seo can prolong the story and earn more money... |
2011-07-02, 03:24 | Link #8017 | |
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Spoiler for 142:
Running away and not facing his problems head on... he still needs to mature up more, hopefully someone other than Eba will do this, because she also needs to grow up too or show it after being gone for 2 years. awaiting further chapters...
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Eba is the reason that Haruto moved to Tokyo. Akari/Takashi was mad because they felt Haruto is choosing Eba over their friendship. Asuka was planning her move before she knew about Haruto/Eba's relationship. Asuka moved into the void that Eba created. Haruto never shown Asuka the dedication that he shown Eba. Haruto didn't even want to move on from Eba til Koyomi/Nanami's push for Asuka. Realistically, Haruto did the right thing by breaking off the current relationship that no longer interests him. In real life, you are not forced to stay with someone that you no longer love, especially if there are no kids involved and you are not even twenty years old. That shit about staying with someone because it's the right thing just doesn't happen, manga idealism does not apply to real world. Last edited by night train; 2011-07-02 at 03:57. |
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Spoiler for spoiler chapter 142:
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