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Oblivion · 2011-10-31, 15:48

I been looking for a copy of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri: Kakera Asobi and came across this, http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=H....c0.m270.l1313. One copy is about twice as much as the other one. Can someone point out the differences between both to me? It doesn't say much in the description. And what does "append version" mean?

Kantoku · 2011-10-31, 18:58

The append version has more bonus features, I think. But I'm not sure why it would be half the cost of the original; if anything, it should be more expensive than the original. Unless the seller has never actually played the game and has that mindset where the original is more valuable than the updated version, just like how black-label Final Fantasy games value for much more than green-labeled ones, even though they have absolutely no difference between the two.

Oblivion · 2011-10-31, 19:54

Hmm well that does make sense. Based on what you said, I guess this would be a great deal to take. Though I'm kind wondering why the price is so low compared to the others. Hopefully there's nothing wrong with it.

Edit: Found out why there are differences in price now. Apparently the Append version is a sort of bugfix to the original game along with some extra content on the disc. And it also won't run unless I buy the original version too. :S

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/g...d=m-1-41096875

DoubtGin · 2012-10-18, 12:21

are there any translations of this game?

I want to play the original game but since I don't speak Japanese, I would like to read a translated script while playing.

thanks in advance

battle22 · 2012-10-18, 23:40

Quote:

are there any translations of this game?

I want to play the original game but since I don't speak Japanese, I would like to read a translated script while playing.

thanks in advance

There are no translations, But reading the translated script and the game with emulator at the same time works, I did it, If you decide to read this way tell me and I'll give you the choice guide so you will get into the arcs that you want

DoubtGin · 2012-10-19, 08:07

Yeah, that's what I would like to do, then. Would be very nice of you to give me a link to that "choice guide".

Thanks in advance.

chaos_alfa · 2012-10-21, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubtGin

are there any translations of this game?

I want to play the original game but since I don't speak Japanese, I would like to read a translated script while playing.

thanks in advance

The PS2 game hasn't been translated, but the original PC which the anime is based on is.

You can officially buy it here:

Higurashi When They Cry - MangaGamer
Higurashi When They Cry Kai - MangaGamer

Higurashi When They Cry - Desura

TheGuraGuraMan · 2012-11-24, 12:36

Made this :

for the scenario chart. It's full at 99,3%, so it could may help some people.

Massy90 · 2013-01-23, 22:29

Why do many people state that compared to Matsuribayashi arc, Miotsukushi arc from the PS2 game has a much better moral in the end??
I already know the PS2 version is sadder than the original and why it is. But I would really like so much to know what the moral in the ending of Miotsukushi exactly is!!
Does anyone know about it? Can anyone tell me?

TheGuraGuraMan · 2013-01-24, 12:08

I think a lot of people prefer Miotsukushi because rules X and Z are present in it.

**Klashikari** · 2013-01-24, 12:17

But past that it is a terribly cramed job as well, along with a shoehorned "dramatic" end (and even more cheesy part than Matsuribayashi, such like Keiichi pulling a Yamato Kira out of the blue). I can't really say Miotsukushi is any more worthwhile than Matsuribayashi.

battle22 · 2013-01-24, 13:00

Klash, You don't like Matsuribayashi?
If so, then I also dislike it because of the cheesines. I hoped Miotsukushi would have been a better story endgame but now I'm not so sure.

Massy90 · 2013-01-24, 14:23

I see... but what does the end of Miotsukushi say on a moral level?
Does it perhaps say that in order to achieve happiness, some sacrifices and great efforts are needed and inevitable?
Or that fate cannot be changed because in the end there is still suffering, maybe?
I don't know, just guessing... I am curious to know why they say that the moral is much better.

Because other than that, not even I am so sure Miotsukushi is really better than the other one... for example, on Higurashi wiki I saw that in Miotsukushi:

Spoiler:

...wich I didn't like very much, to be honest. I found more down-to-earth to let Satoshi be as it is, in Matsuribayashi.

Rather, I didn't find the end of Matsuribayashi to be so bad, all in all. So I'm curious to know what makes the tragic end of Miotsukushi even better...

TheGuraGuraMan · 2013-01-25, 01:34

He doesn't appear in Miotsukushi, this image is from the epilogue, it's more like à speculation about later, or simply fan service.

The Creator · 2013-02-02, 11:40

I don't get the chart at all.

The branches that branch and then fuse back (like the 4 option one at the beginning) confuse me a lot =x.

TheGuraGuraMan · 2013-02-02, 13:00

It's not that hard. The biggest one is Kei's, it have a lot of choice, and either lead to Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, Tsumihoroboshi or the two first extra arcs, Taraimawashi and Tsukiotoshi.
The second branch is Akasaka's, for Himatsubushi. The third is Shion's, for Meakashi, the fourth is Rika's for Minagoroshi, and finally the last one is the duo Rika/Kei's for Miotsukushi.

If you want more information about Kei's branch, you can cut it in 3 parts :
- The first one, between the two yellow buttons, consist of a part of Onikakushi (start to the card chap, before the festival) and the two first chapters of Watanagashi. Of course, there are some extra scenes, you won't always have the original. After that, you can choose your "heroine" : The first path is Rena's, consisting of two new chapters, the festival one of Onikakushi, and the first one of Tsumi. The second path is Satoko's, it's mostly half of Tatarigoroshi. The third is Mion's, with a big part of Watanagashi. Then, depending on your choice, it leads you to an arc.

Understand

?
First part : Half of Onikakushi + 2 first chap of Wata
Second : Heroines path
Third : The arcs.

The Creator · 2013-02-04, 10:59

I don't remember all the choices, so i have a hard time guessing which is which and to which one it leads :S

TheGuraGuraMan · 2013-02-04, 11:42

So I guess you're playing it right now don't you ?

TheGuraGuraMan · 2013-02-07, 14:35

Well, I guess this thread is more appropriated for my project o_O

Here is a new video, with shows quite a lot of new things :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxRlkx4gsTw

BanditKing · 2013-03-15, 23:35

Looking at TheGuraGuraMan's chart its look like you miss a choice in Meakashi-hen at the end if you didn't get it yet.

So did Ryukishi07 himself wrote Miotsukushi-hen or the people at Alchemist? I felt i made a bad choice and read Miotsukushi first and now going to Matsuribayashi felt really really stupid overall(Most of problem disappear,hanyu appear and go to school with the others, Akasaka appear and now everything is fine,etc etc). Miotsukushi could had been a perfect end to the series if they fix the bit at the end. Damn the keiichi's redemption and becoming rika's ally scene is really rememberable(I can see why it was popular on niconico at one point now) and several other one as well.

2011-10-31, 19:54	Link #243
Oblivion Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Hmm well that does make sense. Based on what you said, I guess this would be a great deal to take. Though I'm kind wondering why the price is so low compared to the others. Hopefully there's nothing wrong with it. Edit: Found out why there are differences in price now. Apparently the Append version is a sort of bugfix to the original game along with some extra content on the disc. And it also won't run unless I buy the original version too. :S http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/g...d=m-1-41096875 Last edited by Oblivion; 2011-10-31 at 20:46. Reason: found out

2013-01-24, 12:17	Link #251
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	But past that it is a terribly cramed job as well, along with a shoehorned "dramatic" end (and even more cheesy part than Matsuribayashi, such like Keiichi pulling a Yamato Kira out of the blue). I can't really say Miotsukushi is any more worthwhile than Matsuribayashi. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2013-01-24, 13:00	Link #252
battle22 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Rokkenjima Age: 27	Klash, You don't like Matsuribayashi? If so, then I also dislike it because of the cheesines. I hoped Miotsukushi would have been a better story endgame but now I'm not so sure. __________________ Total Seacat Island A not-so-average Umineko gameboard

2013-01-24, 14:23	Link #253
Massy90 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	I see... but what does the end of Miotsukushi say on a moral level? Does it perhaps say that in order to achieve happiness, some sacrifices and great efforts are needed and inevitable? Or that fate cannot be changed because in the end there is still suffering, maybe? I don't know, just guessing... I am curious to know why they say that the moral is much better. Because other than that, not even I am so sure Miotsukushi is really better than the other one... for example, on Higurashi wiki I saw that in Miotsukushi: Spoiler: Satoshi actually recovers from L5 Hinamizawa Syndrome. See this image: http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Mi...e=0021F9E6.jpg ...wich I didn't like very much, to be honest. I found more down-to-earth to let Satoshi be as it is, in Matsuribayashi. Rather, I didn't find the end of Matsuribayashi to be so bad, all in all. So I'm curious to know what makes the tragic end of Miotsukushi even better...

2011-10-31, 15:48	Link #241
Oblivion Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I been looking for a copy of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri: Kakera Asobi and came across this, http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=H....c0.m270.l1313. One copy is about twice as much as the other one. Can someone point out the differences between both to me? It doesn't say much in the description. And what does "append version" mean?

2011-10-31, 18:58	Link #242
Kantoku 見ぬが花 Join Date: Jan 2011	The append version has more bonus features, I think. But I'm not sure why it would be half the cost of the original; if anything, it should be more expensive than the original. Unless the seller has never actually played the game and has that mindset where the original is more valuable than the updated version, just like how black-label Final Fantasy games value for much more than green-labeled ones, even though they have absolutely no difference between the two.

2012-10-18, 12:21	Link #244
DoubtGin Member Join Date: Oct 2012	are there any translations of this game? I want to play the original game but since I don't speak Japanese, I would like to read a translated script while playing. thanks in advance

2012-10-19, 08:07	Link #246
DoubtGin Member Join Date: Oct 2012	Yeah, that's what I would like to do, then. Would be very nice of you to give me a link to that "choice guide". Thanks in advance.

2012-11-24, 12:36	Link #248
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Made this : for the scenario chart. It's full at 99,3%, so it could may help some people.

2013-01-23, 22:29	Link #249
Massy90 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	Why do many people state that compared to Matsuribayashi arc, Miotsukushi arc from the PS2 game has a much better moral in the end?? I already know the PS2 version is sadder than the original and why it is. But I would really like so much to know what the moral in the ending of Miotsukushi exactly is!! Does anyone know about it? Can anyone tell me?

2013-01-24, 12:08	Link #250
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	I think a lot of people prefer Miotsukushi because rules X and Z are present in it.

2013-01-25, 01:34	Link #254
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	He doesn't appear in Miotsukushi, this image is from the epilogue, it's more like à speculation about later, or simply fan service.

2013-02-02, 11:40	Link #255
The Creator Golden Emperor Join Date: Jun 2006	I don't get the chart at all. The branches that branch and then fuse back (like the 4 option one at the beginning) confuse me a lot =x.

2013-02-02, 13:00	Link #256
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	It's not that hard. The biggest one is Kei's, it have a lot of choice, and either lead to Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, Tsumihoroboshi or the two first extra arcs, Taraimawashi and Tsukiotoshi. The second branch is Akasaka's, for Himatsubushi. The third is Shion's, for Meakashi, the fourth is Rika's for Minagoroshi, and finally the last one is the duo Rika/Kei's for Miotsukushi. If you want more information about Kei's branch, you can cut it in 3 parts : - The first one, between the two yellow buttons, consist of a part of Onikakushi (start to the card chap, before the festival) and the two first chapters of Watanagashi. Of course, there are some extra scenes, you won't always have the original. After that, you can choose your "heroine" : The first path is Rena's, consisting of two new chapters, the festival one of Onikakushi, and the first one of Tsumi. The second path is Satoko's, it's mostly half of Tatarigoroshi. The third is Mion's, with a big part of Watanagashi. Then, depending on your choice, it leads you to an arc. Understand ? First part : Half of Onikakushi + 2 first chap of Wata Second : Heroines path Third : The arcs.

2013-02-04, 10:59	Link #257
The Creator Golden Emperor Join Date: Jun 2006	I don't remember all the choices, so i have a hard time guessing which is which and to which one it leads :S

2013-02-04, 11:42	Link #258
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	So I guess you're playing it right now don't you ?

2013-02-07, 14:35	Link #259
TheGuraGuraMan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Well, I guess this thread is more appropriated for my project o_O Here is a new video, with shows quite a lot of new things : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxRlkx4gsTw

2013-03-15, 23:35	Link #260
BanditKing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004	Looking at TheGuraGuraMan's chart its look like you miss a choice in Meakashi-hen at the end if you didn't get it yet. So did Ryukishi07 himself wrote Miotsukushi-hen or the people at Alchemist? I felt i made a bad choice and read Miotsukushi first and now going to Matsuribayashi felt really really stupid overall(Most of problem disappear,hanyu appear and go to school with the others, Akasaka appear and now everything is fine,etc etc). Miotsukushi could had been a perfect end to the series if they fix the bit at the end. Damn the keiichi's redemption and becoming rika's ally scene is really rememberable(I can see why it was popular on niconico at one point now) and several other one as well.