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Witched · 2011-05-18, 15:45

If by chance, it was actually Gretchen that Oriko saw then...
There wouldn't be an exact point of getting Yuma, since Gretchen > All.

sa547 · 2011-05-18, 19:43

Damn, it sold like pancakes.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-land-in-top-5

aeriolewinters · 2011-05-18, 20:43

OAV adaptation imminent. So staff who?

Riga92 · 2011-05-18, 21:11

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Originally Posted by sa547

Damn, it sold like pancakes.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-land-in-top-5

Glad to see both Oriko and Kazumi in the top 5. MadoMagi surely is making its mark on anime/manga history.

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Originally Posted by aeriolewinters

OAV adaptation imminent. So staff who?

Since the story of Oriko is written from a draft by Magica Quartet, I imagine they would bring in the same staff. The only question I have is what kind of artstyle would they use in the adaptation? Will they use Mura's designs or go back to Ume-sensei's designs?

aeriolewinters · 2011-05-18, 21:14

or a whole different design... Imagines a dark backdrop with Noizi Ito's designs

I'm liking the whole ambiance of Oriko, but I don't like Oriko herself. Maybe it's just bias for the main cast of the anime.

orangejuicetang · 2011-05-18, 22:23

So, if Mami was alone, she would have defeated Charlotte?

I found that sort of interesting.

Witched · 2011-05-18, 22:27

Well, Mami wouldn't have disturbances, after all.. :P

Spoiler for I'm still thinking she's WN.:

Riga92 · 2011-05-18, 23:02

Lots of stuff happening in this chapter.

Spoiler for Chapter 3:

We have a bit of Oriko's backstory revealed in the beginning. Oriko's father, Hisaomi Mikuni, is a politician and we see her as a little child helping him in his campaign. Apparently her father wants to bring peace and happiness to the country and Oriko wants to help realize that dream. Mami is then introduced fighting and defeating Charlotte. Mami even mentions how if she let her guard down, Charlotte would have got her

. Mami then senses a dead magical girl nearby and notices it didn't die by a witch. Kyubey then reveals himself and tells her of the rumour going around that a black-magical girl is killing other magical girls.

The girl at the end of the last chapter is Kirika Kure and we see her and Oriko having a tea party in a garden. A witch attacks them. Kirika effortlessly defeats the witch while Oriko makes tea. During the whole scene, we can see Kirika and Oriko are very close friends and deeply care for each other. Kirika faints from exhaustion and Oriko has another vision. We don't know whats the vision and Oriko says she has to use Kirika again to "protect the world."

Mami now starts investigating the case of the black magical girl. Mami asks Kyouko if she knows anything but to no avail. Kyouko then asks Mami if she knows Oriko, but Mami doesn't know. Mami then asks Homura but she doesn't know anything either. Madoka makes a short cameo and tells Homura that Sayaka and Hitomi are waiting for her to go home. Before Homura leaves, Mami warns her to be careful, but Homura just says in a rather intense, scary face to leave her and Madoka alone.

Mami ponders about the motives of the black magical girl, then suddenly meets Kirika, who lost a stuffed toy she carries around that she got as a present from Oriko. Mami finds the toy for her and Kirika decides to treat Mami for a crepe to thank her. Mami notes how Kirika seems to have a lot of affection for the person who gave Kirika the toy. Kirika suddenly gets extremely mad, saying how people shouldn't confuse "like" and "love" and that love is "infinitely finite." A witch appears and seems to have taken control of Kirika's body. Mami prepares to fight the witch cautiously, but Kirika then transforms, kills the witch, and attacks Mami. Mami asks if Kirika is the culprit behind the murders to which Kirika confirms. Mami and Kirika duke it out, but Kirika proves too fast for Mami. The chapter ends with Kirika shown with the upperhand in the battle, and meanwhile, Oriko talks about how she and Kirika will fufill her father's dream. It is also implied that Oriko's father is already dead.

Really enjoyed volume 1. Now we just have to wait till June 13 for the final volume.

Dark Wing · 2011-05-18, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Riga92

Lots of stuff happening in this chapter.

Spoiler for Chapter 3:

We have a bit of Oriko's backstory revealed in the beginning. Oriko's father, Hisaomi Mikuni, is a politician and we see her helping him in his campaign. Apparently her father wants to bring peace and happiness to the country and Oriko wants to help realize that dream. Mami is then introduced fighting and defeating Charlotte. Mami even mentions how if she let her guard down, Charlotte would have got her

. Mami then senses a dead magical girl nearby and notices it didn't die by a witch. Kyubey then reveals himself and tells her of the rumour going around that a black-magical girl is killing other magical girls.

The girl at the end of the last chapter is Kirika Kure and we see her and Oriko having a tea party in a garden. A witch attacks them. Kirika effortlessly defeats the witch while Oriko makes tea. During the whole scene, we can see Kirika and Oriko are very close friends and deeply care for each other. Kirika faints from exhaustion and Oriko has another vision. We don't know whats the vision and Oriko says she has to use Kirika again to "protect the world."

Mami now starts investigating the case of the black magical girl. Mami asks Kyouko if she knows anything but to no avail. Kyouko then asks Mami if she knows Oriko, but Mami doesn't know. Mami then asks Homura but she doesn't know anything either. Madoka makes a short cameo and tells Homura that Sayaka and Hitomi are waiting for her to go home. Before Homura leaves, Mami warns her to be careful, but Homura just says in a rather intense, scary face to leave her and Madoka alone.

Mami ponders about the motives of the black magical girl, then suddenly meets Kirika, who lost a stuffed toy she carries around that she got as a present from Oriko. Mami finds the toy for her and Kirika decides to treat Mami for a crepe to thank her. Mami notes how Kirika seems to have a lot of affection for the person who gave Kirika the toy. Kirika suddenly gets extremely mad, saying how people shouldn't confuse "like" and "love" and that love is "infinitely finite." A witch appears and seems to have taken control of Kirika's body. Mami prepares to fight the witch cautiously, but Kirika then transforms, kills the witch, and attacks Mami. Mami asks if Kirika is the culprit behind the murders to which Kirika confirms. Mami and Kirika duke it out, but Kirika proves too fast for Mami. The chapter ends with Kirika shown with the upperhand in the battle, and meanwhile, Oriko talks about how she and Kirika will fufill her father's dream.

Really enjoyed volume 1. Now we just have to wait till June 13 for the final volume.

- so basically Kirika and Oriko are the the canon evil lesbian couple...

- Oriko and her father has some kind of grand plan and is using Kriika

- and Kyouko is acting as Yuma guardian

My god this is just to awesome to be only 2 volumes...

Riga92 · 2011-05-18, 23:28

^ I forgot to add that at the end of the chapter, it is implied Oriko's father is already dead. But yea you got the jist of it

I really wonder how this is all gonna end...I suspect many deaths...and Homura time-looping again

zeniselv · 2011-05-19, 02:26

my quess its thatthis happens before timeline 4, since we already know that kyubee cant actually see a MG potential, maybe oriko is the one that refers kyubee to madoka in the last timelines?.
i also agree that yumas design its really similar to WN, but that can be trolling from the author.

Shadow5YA · 2011-05-19, 03:51

At the end of the volume/ch3, there seems to be a design of the magical girl corresponding to the witches that appeared, which is a nice touch.

Also, I'm guess Mami survived because Madoka didn't give her the friendship speech to make her overconfident. There was a panel showing that Mami was caught off-guard still.

I'm guessing Oriko's plan is to eradicate all magical girls in order to prevent any new Witches from being born. However, that doesn't explain why she's being selective about it.

By the way, is this series completed in just two volumes, or is it just that there are only two volumes out right now?

MartianMage · 2011-05-19, 07:42

Oh man if Mami dies on the next chapter I'm gonna be really sad. Give the poor girl a break man. Sure this is Magica series we're talking about so casualties is a given but at least make her last longer in the story!

kaigan · 2011-05-19, 08:03

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Oh man if Mami dies on the next chapter I'm gonna be really sad.

the fuhrer would get extremely pissed! i now understand why he developed v-2 rockets as "vengeance weapons".

i hope mami would not die, well at least not in this story line. it's only two volumes, how shorter can she last!

however, i feel tragedy between yuma and kyouko already. they do have a strong bond. and if this spin-off is somehow connected to the original, yuma missing in madoka magica might spell....

and i remember kyouko's speech to homu before her final attack about just continue protecting someone you like. i think it's not exactly what she learned from homu, but she might be speaking from her experience herself. and that experience is in this oriko magica.

Riga92 · 2011-05-19, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Sabato

Oh man if Mami dies on the next chapter I'm gonna be really sad. Give the poor girl a break man. Sure this is Magica series we're talking about so casualties is a given but at least make her last longer in the story!

As much as I want Mami, Kyouko, and Yuma to live, I'm almost certain things aren't going to end well for our girls solely because its pretty much confirmed Oriko takes place in a past timeline

MartianMage · 2011-05-19, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Riga92

As much as I want Mami, Kyouko, and Yuma to live, I'm almost certain things aren't going to end well for our girls solely because its pretty much confirmed Oriko takes place in a past timeline

I dunno... I mean I wouldn't be so quick to try to tie Oriko as another "timeline" Homura made from the main series.

IMO asides from the characters from the main series... the direction of Oriko doesn't feel like it's a part of the main series... well this is a spin off afterall.

Riga92 · 2011-05-19, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Sabato

I dunno... I mean I wouldn't be so quick to try to tie Oriko as another "timeline" Homura made from the main series.

IMO asides from the characters from the main series... the direction of Oriko doesn't feel like it's a part of the main series... well this is a spin off afterall.

It's true that the direction of Oriko is a bit different from the main series, but since the story is written from a draft by Magica Quartet, I feel that its most likely this spin-off is connected to the main series. It also doesn't help that the synopsis for volume 2 says that Oriko is the story of a "passed timeline," hinting that there's a direct connection.

And also, if Oriko isn't a timeline Homura made, then what is it? A timeline that never existed in the first place? IMO, it wouldn't make sense if Oriko isn't connected to the main series at all.

Whats the point of the story then? Wouldn't that make it more like a fanfiction instead of a side-story related to the series?

Kazu-kun · 2011-05-19, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Sabato

I dunno... I mean I wouldn't be so quick to try to tie Oriko as another "timeline" Homura made from the main series.

IMO asides from the characters from the main series... the direction of Oriko doesn't feel like it's a part of the main series... well this is a spin off afterall.

Mmm, the official site says Oriko is comprised of fights and moments we didn't see in the anime, but it's part of the same story (unlike Kazumi, which is truly stated as spin-off).

If I understand that correctly, it means Oriko is a side-story, not a spin-off. So it's pretty certain it's one of Homura's time loops.

MartianMage · 2011-05-19, 09:59

Ah so it's mentioned in the synopsis. Well I guess it's another timeline tied to the main series then.

However regarding this:

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And also, if Oriko isn't a timeline Homura made, then what is it? A timeline that never existed in the first place? IMO, it wouldn't make sense if Oriko isn't connected to the main series at all.

Whats the point of the story then? Wouldn't that make it more like a fanfiction instead of a side-story related to the series?

Well that's exactly what a spin off is. It's not like you can tie all the spin offs of code geass to the main series.

Riga92 · 2011-05-19, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Sabato

Well that's exactly what a spin off is. It's not like you can tie all the spin offs of code geass to the main series.

Ah I see your point. Then I guess the only problem was that Oriko shouldn't have been labeled as a spin-off in a first place, but as a sidestory.

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Witched Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	If by chance, it was actually Gretchen that Oriko saw then... There wouldn't be an exact point of getting Yuma, since Gretchen > All.

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Riga92 The Spear of Destiny Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: A place where the stars cross. Age: 31	Lots of stuff happening in this chapter. Spoiler for Chapter 3: We have a bit of Oriko's backstory revealed in the beginning. Oriko's father, Hisaomi Mikuni, is a politician and we see her as a little child helping him in his campaign. Apparently her father wants to bring peace and happiness to the country and Oriko wants to help realize that dream. Mami is then introduced fighting and defeating Charlotte. Mami even mentions how if she let her guard down, Charlotte would have got her . Mami then senses a dead magical girl nearby and notices it didn't die by a witch. Kyubey then reveals himself and tells her of the rumour going around that a black-magical girl is killing other magical girls. The girl at the end of the last chapter is Kirika Kure and we see her and Oriko having a tea party in a garden. A witch attacks them. Kirika effortlessly defeats the witch while Oriko makes tea. During the whole scene, we can see Kirika and Oriko are very close friends and deeply care for each other. Kirika faints from exhaustion and Oriko has another vision. We don't know whats the vision and Oriko says she has to use Kirika again to "protect the world." Mami now starts investigating the case of the black magical girl. Mami asks Kyouko if she knows anything but to no avail. Kyouko then asks Mami if she knows Oriko, but Mami doesn't know. Mami then asks Homura but she doesn't know anything either. Madoka makes a short cameo and tells Homura that Sayaka and Hitomi are waiting for her to go home. Before Homura leaves, Mami warns her to be careful, but Homura just says in a rather intense, scary face to leave her and Madoka alone. Mami ponders about the motives of the black magical girl, then suddenly meets Kirika, who lost a stuffed toy she carries around that she got as a present from Oriko. Mami finds the toy for her and Kirika decides to treat Mami for a crepe to thank her. Mami notes how Kirika seems to have a lot of affection for the person who gave Kirika the toy. Kirika suddenly gets extremely mad, saying how people shouldn't confuse "like" and "love" and that love is "infinitely finite." A witch appears and seems to have taken control of Kirika's body. Mami prepares to fight the witch cautiously, but Kirika then transforms, kills the witch, and attacks Mami. Mami asks if Kirika is the culprit behind the murders to which Kirika confirms. Mami and Kirika duke it out, but Kirika proves too fast for Mami. The chapter ends with Kirika shown with the upperhand in the battle, and meanwhile, Oriko talks about how she and Kirika will fufill her father's dream. It is also implied that Oriko's father is already dead. Really enjoyed volume 1. Now we just have to wait till June 13 for the final volume. __________________ Last edited by Riga92; 2011-05-18 at 23:36.

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Riga92 The Spear of Destiny Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: A place where the stars cross. Age: 31	^ I forgot to add that at the end of the chapter, it is implied Oriko's father is already dead. But yea you got the jist of it I really wonder how this is all gonna end...I suspect many deaths...and Homura time-looping again __________________

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	At the end of the volume/ch3, there seems to be a design of the magical girl corresponding to the witches that appeared, which is a nice touch. Also, I'm guess Mami survived because Madoka didn't give her the friendship speech to make her overconfident. There was a panel showing that Mami was caught off-guard still. I'm guessing Oriko's plan is to eradicate all magical girls in order to prevent any new Witches from being born. However, that doesn't explain why she's being selective about it. By the way, is this series completed in just two volumes, or is it just that there are only two volumes out right now? Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2011-05-19 at 05:46.

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MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Oh man if Mami dies on the next chapter I'm gonna be really sad. Give the poor girl a break man. Sure this is Magica series we're talking about so casualties is a given but at least make her last longer in the story! __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!