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Old 2012-04-22, 23:54   Link #861
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I think he was being sarcastic...
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Old 2012-04-23, 00:20   Link #862
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Reading through this thread I am not so sure about that.

Also just watched the first episode of Hyouka. I must say now that episode planted more doubt in me about handing Little Busters to J.C.

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Old 2012-04-23, 01:02   Link #863
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Then it shall be important for the ones anticipating this anime to combine their most ardent wishes upon a great miracle. Let them all go to the place where wishes come true, beyond the soaring sky above or the deep blue sea below. Shout your will from the deepest part of your chests, uttering, "Then... what is youth!?"

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But seriously, why must there be so much notions of negativity on something in the future? Will the anime not living up to your expectations make you think of Key less? Will it lessen your enjoyment, your appreciation of the four-year old game? Admittedly, there are those who would be reminded strongly of the Angel Beats! debacle, but that's an entirely different matter. And there are also those who focus entirely on anime, and would thus judge the entirety of what Little Busters! is on the series, but so what? I praise everyone's passion, but sometimes one just has to be realistic in expectation. Having been a victim of disappointments in the past, in particular with the eroges I was hoping to like, I am not unfamiliar with the feeling, but it's only one drop in the vast pool, and with time the feelings of hurt will pass, tomorrow will come and there's a new enjoyment around the next corner. I'm a Key fan at heart, having started into visual novels through one of theirs, but I know what I like about them, and one marketting (perceived) hiccup on their part with this adaptation won't make me feel like they betrayed me. (Unfortunately, the sentiment cannot be said to the Japanese Key fans overseas, one might say too passionate!) Life is too stressful without investing oneself too deeply into stuff like this.
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Old 2012-04-23, 11:51   Link #864
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I think he was being sarcastic...
Yeah, thanks, every studio and every format has something to offer, kyoani is really bad at scripting shows and they make them very boring, if anything the key shows work because of what they keep of the original script, but anything else they make is more and more awful the more control kyoani has over the script, if anything just watch munto.

A friend who is into little busters but does not watch that much anime is kinda weirded out as why people are reacting that wayt towards kyoani not making the little bastards anime, so last night i did show him the toei version of kanon, so he understood the fear.
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Old 2012-04-23, 13:17   Link #865
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I haven't seen the Toei version of Kanon so I don't know. But is it really that bad?
Most people I have talked to only seems to dislike how the characters look.
And they pretty much look exactly like the characters in Kanon do. With those huge eyes that covers like half their faces.
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Old 2012-04-23, 13:33   Link #866
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I haven't seen the Toei version of Kanon so I don't know. But is it really that bad?
Most people I have talked to only seems to dislike how the characters look.
And they pretty much look exactly like the characters in Kanon do. With those huge eyes that covers like half their faces.
Well, this isn't really terribly on-topic here, but visual style notwithstanding, the main problem people complained about before the remake was that it wasn't particularly faithful to the game, which was a problem related to the episode count it was allocated (and the approach of the writer/director). The character design issue is mostly visible if you compare the original anime with the remake that was made years later (if you compare both works to the original game in terms of character designs alone, you could probably even say the original anime was more faithful in some ways... but the new style certainly is more modern and generally appealing.)

In any case, as has been pointed out in this thread before, it's pointless to compare a new anime made today with the first anime Key was associated with 10 years ago, because it's not like they haven't learned anything in the process.
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Old 2012-04-23, 21:38   Link #867
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I think he was being sarcastic...
Honestly you never know

I remember Kanon from 2002. I really liked it back then since I had not played the game yet then. But I really loved the story regardless. I like how some things were handled a bit more.
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Old 2012-04-24, 06:18   Link #868
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Honestly you never know

I remember Kanon from 2002. I really liked it back then since I had not played the game yet then. But I really loved the story regardless. I like how some things were handled a bit more.
I think as long as animation quality and story adaptation keeps up with the times, we'll all be happy. Maybe.
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Old 2012-04-24, 06:30   Link #869
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Yeah, thanks, every studio and every format has something to offer, kyoani is really bad at scripting shows and they make them very boring, if anything the key shows work because of what they keep of the original script, but anything else they make is more and more awful the more control kyoani has over the script, if anything just watch munto.
Munto was the first thing KyoAni did and the only original work they have ever produced. It's not exactly the best thing to judge them by is it? I mean lets look @ one of the current "it" studios around in Ufotable. People love them for KnK and Fate/Zero and fair enough since they are both great works. But the first works they did were mediocre at best... Coyote Ragtime Show, Dokkoida, Futakoi Alternative etc. Should we keep bringing this up when people go on about how good Ufotable are these days?

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A friend who is into little busters but does not watch that much anime is kinda weirded out as why people are reacting that wayt towards kyoani not making the little bastards anime, so last night i did show him the toei version of kanon, so he understood the fear.
It had 12 Episodes in a day when adapting VNs "faithfully" wasn't exactly done and when KEY were much less important. LB is going to get the episodes it requires and KEY have knocked back several offers to animate this already. While it won't be a Clannad (especially in animation) it's going to be a heck of a lot more closer to that than Kanon 2002.
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Old 2012-04-24, 08:44   Link #870
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You seem to be reading my post backwards, which is understandable given the overall context, what I mean, to put it bluntly is that people are seeign kyonai through rose colored glasses and assume everyone else is vastly inferior, hence why the extreme comparisons.
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Old 2012-04-24, 11:52   Link #871
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Kyoani isn't that godly good on my taste but just good. The whole problem lies in JC Staff being pick to animate LB!.
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Old 2012-04-24, 15:04   Link #872
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One could look at Munto TV being an adaptation of KyoAni's own original work. Munto came out in 2002 and 2004 as Net based episodes or short films. Come 2009, and Munto TV and the film basically adapts Munto for television and then completes the story.

At least that is the impression I've gotten.
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Old 2012-04-25, 12:58   Link #873
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Can Somebody translate this please... ?

@vavasyatyou そうなんですか!それは嬉しい限りです。ご返答ありがとうございます。ますます楽しみになって きました!

いろいろさすがというアイデアを出してもらってますよRT @ChitoseRoreru: @vavasyatyou リトルバスターズ!アニメ化について単刀直入に申し上げます。当作品の原作者である麻枝准さんを、アニメの シナリオ構成に重点的な役割として担っていただけないでしょ
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Old 2012-04-26, 23:36   Link #874
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Ran it through google translate. Nothing important.

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Really? @ vavasyatyou! I'm glad it is. Thank you for your reply. Has become more and more fun!

@ Vavasyatyou Little Busters: RT @ ChitoseRoreru I have indeed got out the idea of ​​variety! We will get right to the point about animated. Can not get the role you played as a focus on the configuration of the animation scenario, Mr. Maeda is the original author of this work
@ Vavasyatyou Takahiro Takahiro Baba, Baba, 4h

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To clarify, the original poster was asking whether or not the original author (Maeda) was involved with the planning of the anime script. The answer was basically that, as you might expect, he was consulted and offered his input/ideas. This is just confirming what I think we already knew (that Maeda isn't working on the anime directly, but offered input).
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Old 2012-04-27, 00:33   Link #876
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Yeah, he had said that before on his own twitter account or through some twitter account. I definately recall hearing that. In any case, we know that Maeda is doing very little QC on the script, all we can do is pray that they choose the best for this work.

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That "translation" made my head hurt.

And shouldn't they be close-lipped about details anyway? Best to just sit tight and await the bigger chunked announcements rather than jump on vague messages like those that might just be repeats of what has already been announced officially.
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I ran it through google translate, you can somehow decipher what it means. And yeah, they won't release anything.

All we can do is wait,

And god do I hate that.

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To clarify, the original poster was asking whether or not the original author (Maeda) was involved with the planning of the anime script. The answer was basically that, as you might expect, he was consulted and offered his input/ideas. This is just confirming what I think we already knew (that Maeda isn't working on the anime directly, but offered input).
That isn't a good or a bad thing, as most adaptations are made like that. ToraDora was a rare JC Staff example when the author jumped in and took control of the production process. Or Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere were Sunrise had the Horizon author bringing in literally boxes and boxes of reference materials. In these two examples the author voluntarily went beyond the call of duty.

In the case of KyoAni, they sort of bug the author instead if the author doesn't volunteer input. The author is on speed dial, and they use it whenever and where ever possible. That's what got them the reputation as Adaptation specialists.

In the case of Little Busters, all we can hope is that JC Staff take inspiration from Tora Dora. Go ahead and make changes; but try to make changes that the author would accept.
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ToraDora was a rare JC Staff example when the author jumped in and took control of the production process.
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure this is just a rumour that got blown out of proportion. The novel writer was obviously consulted as always because they had to make the end of the anime line up with the novel even though the last novel wasn't released, so they had to make sure that the points they emphasized earlier in the anime would line up with the ending. But to say they "jumped in" and "took control of the production process" is just not true; they already had a very good writing/directing team on it in the first place.

In this case, we don't have that issue because the original work is fully complete, so consulting with the author in this case would just be to give ideas about how to manage the time properly and adapt certain difficult to portray aspects. So the situation is a bit different.
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