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Old 2010-04-18, 08:58   Link #321
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These are the Espadas that have been revealed so far:

First Espada: Coyote Starrk
Second Espada: Baraggan Luisenbarn
Third Espada: Tia Harribel
Fourth Espada: Ulquiorra Cifer
Fifth Espada: Nnoitra Jiruga
Sixth Espada: Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez (my favorite)
Seventh Espada: Zommari Leroux
Eighth Espada: Szayel Aporro Granz
Ninth Espada: Aaroniero Arruruerie
Tenth Espada: Yammy Riyalgo

The former Espadas are:

Third: Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck
Sixth: Luppi (killed by Grimmjow after Orihime healed his arm)

Am I right?
I thought Yammy was espada number 0, not 10?
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Old 2010-04-18, 09:45   Link #322
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On a basis of raw power: Yammy as cero espada

On a basis of skill: Coyote Starrk

On a basis of refined power: Ulquiorra Schiffer

It isn't that difficult to know they number themselves by strength. Yammy is by far, the strongest. But he will be undone, of course. Just like Ulquiorra and Coyote.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:00   Link #323
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On a basis of raw power: Yammy as cero espada

On a basis of skill: Coyote Starrk

On a basis of refined power: Ulquiorra Schiffer

It isn't that difficult to know they number themselves by strength. Yammy is by far, the strongest. But he will be undone, of course. Just like Ulquiorra and Coyote.
I don't see how yammy even has raw power. Every one of his attacks has been easily stopped by mid-tier captains like kenpachi and byakuya.

The only thing I can think of that he seems best in is size and regeneration ability...he's the biggest and seems to be able to take a lot of damage...

Otherwise, he's pretty weak, he's slow and stupid, and his ceros seem to be massive in size but still not that powerful...

In terms of ceros, I'd say Stark's machine-gun cero & guided missile cero ability is way better...

kudo making him the 0 espada makes no frekin sense whatsoever...
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:11   Link #324
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Yeah, urahara owned yammi. then again urahara owns most people.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:12   Link #325
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Every one of his attacks has been easily stopped by mid-tier captains like kenpachi and byakuya.
They did not stop his attacks.

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his ceros seem to be massive in size but still not that powerful...
What are you talking about? Big Ceros = powerful you know.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:14   Link #326
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They did not stop his attacks.


What are you talking about? Big Ceros = powerful you know.

Big ceros = power is less concentrated.

Ceros like the ones that Noi/Nel can shoot - those are small dense ceros that can't be blocked easily. Ceros like the one yammy shoots are just big/cause widespread damage, but is probably weaker since it's less dense.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:15   Link #327
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They did not stop his attacks.


What are you talking about? Big Ceros = powerful you know.
bigger size doesn't necessarily equal more destructive power
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:20   Link #328
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bigger size doesn't necessarily equal more destructive power
Source this, then I'll take you seriously.

The only thing the mid captains did against the big cero was dodge it. And Kenpachi even acknowledged the power behind it.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:29   Link #329
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Source this, then I'll take you seriously.

The only thing the mid captains did against the big cero was dodge it. And Kenpachi even acknowledged the power behind it.
i didn't say it wasn't more power, i just said it wasn't just because it's bigger.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:31   Link #330
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bigger size doesn't necessarily equal more destructive power
Yep.


@kakakka,
It's like Isshin's fight with the fisher-hollow thingie.

The hollow said power is proportional to the size of their zanpakutos, so he said he is powerful since his sword is the size of a bus. This is basically yammy's cero...just big.

Isshin then cuts him in half and says that all captains are able to concentrate their energy and make their zanpakutos small. This is basically the top level ceros - small, but dense/concentrated.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:33   Link #331
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But Cero =/= Zanpakto

And Yammy =/= Grand Fisher

Do I need to add all these hollows are like butter to Isshin?

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i didn't say it wasn't more power, i just said it wasn't just because it's bigger.
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But Cero =/= Zanpakto
And Yammy =/= Grand Fisher
Do I need to add all these hollows are like butter to Isshin?
lolwat

Bigger =/= more powerful
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Except Yammy's cero was acknowledge to have some power behind them. Try again.
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:45   Link #334
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Except Yammy's cero was acknowledge to have some power behind them. Try again.
Everybody's cero was acknowledged to have some power - Noi's cero, and everybody else's cero. The only cero that has no power was from that girl Lillnette something...

Yammy is a large obese espada who is weak as hell. I'm surprised the two mid-tiered captains haven't slaughtered him already...
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Old 2010-04-18, 12:58   Link #335
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Everybody's cero was acknowledged to have some power - Noi's cero, and everybody else's cero. The only cero that has no power was from that girl Lillnette something...
Ah, so now you resort to this. hahaha

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Yammy is a large obese espada who is weak as hell. I'm surprised the two mid-tiered captains haven't slaughtered him already...
I am disappointed at them. They can't kill it, eventhough they can cut through his hierro(?). Now they have to exhaust themselves trying to kill the humongous beast.
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Old 2010-04-18, 21:21   Link #336
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I'm surprised the two mid-tiered captains haven't slaughtered him already
I'm not surprised kubo's forgotten the whole thing.
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Old 2010-04-20, 17:43   Link #337
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K look at it this way. Starrk forced one of the most powerful captains to use his shikai to the maximum, not to mention wtfpwning two vizards(former captains I might add) in the process. Byakuya didn't even have to use his shikai vs Yammy, he only went bankai to fight Kenpachi >_>

I'm of the opinion that the numbers are ranked by reiatsu. So if we take the captains as an example, is Kenpachi the most powerful captain?
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K look at it this way. Starrk forced one of the most powerful captains to use his shikai to the maximum, not to mention wtfpwning two vizards(former captains I might add) in the process. Byakuya didn't even have to use his shikai vs Yammy, he only went bankai to fight Kenpachi >_>

I'm of the opinion that the numbers are ranked by reiatsu. So if we take the captains as an example, is Kenpachi the most powerful captain?
no, he's probably top half of the middle.
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Old 2010-04-20, 19:27   Link #339
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Exactly, but he's stated as having ridiculous amounts of reiatsu, surpassing all the other captains. I doubt Aizen had time to do an in depth assessment of all his espada's skills, so he probably just ranked them by reiatsu.

So in reiatsu Yammy > Starrk.

As an actual THREAT? Starrk > Yammy.
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It's obvious that Yammy is the strongest Espada while Stark is the second strongest.

Anyone else who says otherwise needs to re-read the manga again.
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