(CR) Digimon Xros Wars 2: Hunter Boys running through Time (Digimon Season 7)

[Kurosu]

So a few things I'm wondering about this "crossover"
- I've been wondering about Davis for a bit, because he seems like the odd-man out as he was dependent on Stingmon to reach his final form. My guess is he'll be able to digi-xros as well and has stingmon on him because.... why not. If not, maybe they can golden armor digivolve him to magnamon.
- Theoretically all of the mains should be able to warp digivolve to their mega forms in some way, so I don't know if we'll see their other forms, but this is simply speculation off the fact that the current mains just warp to their strongest forms with just some supplements via digi xros.
- In the silhouette of everyone, Takuya didn't have a digimon next to him, so he'll probably be digivolving as he normally would.
- I wonder if Duke will be a fusion of Takato/Guilemon or if they'll just keep it on Guilemon. Man I can't wait to see how they're going to explain any of this.
- Also, yeah both Agumons seem different, Masaru's seemingly looks bigger and not as cute.

[Akashin]

Not sure where they're going with Daisuke, but Magnamon is a safe bet (they won't give him Digi Xros, and even if he has Stingmon they wouldn't be able to Jogress with just Daisuke). And I'd like to think that they wouldn't go so far as to give Guilmon the ability to evolve to Dukemon on his own, if even Takato retains the ability to Matrix Evolve in this season (I imagine he will though). Takuya probably has the necessary spirits to use KaiserGreymon, too.

What I'm more worried about than anything is how strong they'll be portrayed as, given that power levels have been up and down all throughout both seasons of Xros Wars (Lucemon last season, anyone?). It'll bug me if Arresterdramon is as strong as Dukemon, for example. But I'm willing to be optimistic that they'd know better than to nerf the old protagonists like that.

[.:Jason:.]

Well, we also don't know when in each series the old members were pulled from so speculation's a bit hard. The only one we can place is Marcus based on his clothing but the rest...

[Akashin]

You can somewhat infer just based on their respective strength. For example Taichi's MetalGreymon and Takato's MegaloGrowmon would be unlikely to do jack against OmegaShoutmon (I'd like to say they'd match Arresterdramon, though in reality I doubt they would), so for the sake of a fair fight I'd think they will have access to WarGreymon and Dukemon (maybe even Crimson Mode) respectively. Magnamon is likely on the same level as OmegaShoutmon I'd think, but XV-mon would just be a waste of time against any of the current main characters (so would Lighdramon, probably).

You're right in that we can't say anything with certainty, but I think a certain degree of prediction can be made.

[FlareKnight]

Trying to compare levels of strength really is a tricky thing. Especially when Xros Wars pretty much threw levels out the window and you have to pretty much compare as you go. Plus depends on where they will settle OmegaShoutmon. After all he wasn't even the strongest force they had in the first season of Xros Wars, still had DX, and X7. Of course then could say WarGreymon wasn't the most powerful if you bring the movies and thus Omnimon/Omegamon into it. So even with the first season I have no idea where they are going to draw the line in terms of strength. Of course personally having Arresterdramon being stronger than even Greymon seems insulting :P.

But let's see what will happen. Especially since a good point is made that there isn't a guarantee guys will be brought from their strongest point either.

[Akashin]

OmegaShoutmon has been all over the place. In his first appearance he made a joke out of Tactimon (Tactimon at full power, with any additional strength he may have gained from the human world on top of that), but shortly after he was trumped by Dorbickmon (who ZeekGreymon was able to take out, though that could just be because OmegaShoutmon is more a speed fighter where ZeekGreymon is all brute force). Now this season OmegaShoutmon is only fighting Perfects on a good day. I figured that OmegaShoutmon was somewhat like Magnamon, being a Perfect with power closer to an Ultimate, but they really make judging that a chore.

[gameboy234]

68 seem to open up many possibilities of plot. Enjoyed kiriha appearance in this ep, still his same old self, impose himself strongly as a legendary hero.

The filler is killing me and i'm glad to have this ep. Preview show that going to back to the boring filler..

[Akashin]

Originally Posted by gameboy234

68 seem to open up many possibilities of plot. Enjoyed kiriha appearance in this ep, still his same old self, impose himself strongly as a legendary hero.

The filler is killing me and i'm glad to have this ep. Preview show that going to back to the boring filler..

Next week does look like more filler, but at the same time not quite. It could just be me and I could just be reading too much into it, but next week still looks a lot more serious than what we've been getting. Particularly Taiki's facial expression during that one part of the preview (you almost certainly know what I'm talking about if you've watched it). I'm hoping next week will have more substance, even if it's a wasted effort.

[trinitem]

69.... Not funny anymore

Spoiler for Xros Wars 69:

Welcome back to the old format. Depressed kid has no friends. He's got a digimon promising him friends.

The digimon brainwashes all the classmates into celebrating the transfer new kid as a great guy. Yu's included in the retard mode this time. Tagiru wasn't around because he got stuck in the river finding something the depressed new kid dropped.

Here on, you get the typical digimon revealing itself and stealing power from humans with Tagiru being given the hero role. Being energetic is fine. Being a retard is not. He's the annoying sidekick type given the main role. Why is it neccesary that he be the gross highlight of the show?

I don't understand. Gumdramon says he wants to surpass the king, but it's like he already has. The "King" of digimon is a freaking gimp that can do about as much as a newbie digimon or less on the average day. What the heck was the first season for if that's all the strength that he obtained?

Arresterdramon gets the last hit again for another capture. What a surprise?

[Meltyred]

Originally Posted by trinitem

69.... Not funny anymore

Spoiler for Xros Wars 69:

Welcome back to the old format. Depressed kid has no friends. He's got a digimon promising him friends.

The digimon brainwashes all the classmates into celebrating the transfer new kid as a great guy. Yu's included in the retard mode this time. Tagiru wasn't around because he got stuck in the river finding something the depressed new kid dropped.

Here on, you get the typical digimon revealing itself and stealing power from humans with Tagiru being given the hero role. Being energetic is fine. Being a retard is not. He's the annoying sidekick type given the main role. Why is it neccesary that he be the gross highlight of the show?

I don't understand. Gumdramon says he wants to surpass the king, but it's like he already has. The "King" of digimon is a freaking gimp that can do about as much as a newbie digimon or less on the average day. What the heck was the first season for if that's all the strength that he obtained?

Arresterdramon gets the last hit again for another capture. What a surprise?

Lol yeah, it was like Shoutmon was waaaaay stronger in episode 1 than anything.

[Guido]

So, this is it! The turnaround episode that made the plot to move, and a guest-star character appeared to lend a helping hand.

Spoiler:

I'm most intrigued with the Old Clockmaker man, because inviting an array of Digimon Hunters from everywhere in Japan to capture Volcdramon just for free taking it's suspicious.

First of all, that thing was just powerful in its own accord and to allow that power to be captured scot-free makes to wonder if a) it was troublesome for the old man to control to set it free, or b) had it tested by the unknown figures that accompanied him in the boat at the end of the episode.

There's also Kiriha's cryptic hint to Taiki, that his team should continue to keep watch to the most important of places in Japan. At first, I thought Kiriha meant the country of Japan itself, but Taiki later deduced that Kiriha might have meant the town where the guys live.
It's important to note that in the previous season the site of Baguramon's starting point of conquest once he invaded the Earth was Taiki's town, and the epicenter of the first instance of DigiQuartz appeared in there six months later after that battle.

Summing one plus one, there's going to be in the future a big battle coming to that town, and likely the old man will reveal his true colors before that storm comes. After all, he cryptically says to the unknown player that the "Day" has to come.
Likely, he means a big event to happen that surely will trigger a cataclysm.

[Akashin]

Originally Posted by trinitem

69.... Not funny anymore

Spoiler for Xros Wars 69:

Welcome back to the old format. Depressed kid has no friends. He's got a digimon promising him friends.

The digimon brainwashes all the classmates into celebrating the transfer new kid as a great guy. Yu's included in the retard mode this time. Tagiru wasn't around because he got stuck in the river finding something the depressed new kid dropped.

Here on, you get the typical digimon revealing itself and stealing power from humans with Tagiru being given the hero role. Being energetic is fine. Being a retard is not. He's the annoying sidekick type given the main role. Why is it neccesary that he be the gross highlight of the show?

I don't understand. Gumdramon says he wants to surpass the king, but it's like he already has. The "King" of digimon is a freaking gimp that can do about as much as a newbie digimon or less on the average day. What the heck was the first season for if that's all the strength that he obtained?

Arresterdramon gets the last hit again for another capture. What a surprise?

Spoiler for Ep 69:

I agree with absolutely everything you said, but despite all that I still enjoyed this episode for some reason. The enemy Digimon actually felt like an enemy (although the whole Fallen Angel Digimon being misunderstood and wanting friends thing was weird; I figured he was screwing with the kid and didn't give a damn about anything but power), and this episode's conflict didn't feel like an utter joke (mostly). Compared to some of the crap we've gotten this season, this episode stood out as somewhat better. Honestly though, I don't think that's a good thing.

Yet again Taiki is the one Tagiru runs to when stuff starts happening, and more and more I feel like Tagiru is less a main character and more Taiki's dog than anything. He's always trying to run off and do his own thing, but whenever he really goes full retard Taiki is right there to yank on his leash and tell him to sit. Tagiru is the main character, but quite often he doesn't act without Taiki's approval (and when he does, it usually ends badly), and that more than anything makes it almost impossible to accept him over Taiki as the main character. Worse still, you just know that Tagiru will surpass Taiki sooner or later, and right now I really can't buy that ever happening.

On the whole this episode was somewhat better than other fillers have been, but that's about all the good I can say about it. Phelesmon would have been pretty cool if he were really a royal bastard, but the whole Digimon being instantly befriended a la Pokemon after Capture really screwed him here. At least Taiki had to legitimately develop bonds with the old Xros Heart; the Capture system just hands those bonds to Tagiru, and it really weakens the whole thing.

[Homura7]

Spoiler for spoiler:

Arresterdramon Superior Mode

[trinitem]

A cape does not fix failure! Okay, so maybe it does..... sometimes, but not this time.

[Akashin]

Originally Posted by trinitem

A cape does not fix failure! Okay, so maybe it does..... sometimes, but not this time.

Cape? I thought those were golden wings. But yeah, it's got nothing on X7's Superior Mode (and not just because X7 Superior Mode could win half its fights just by blinding you with how damn shiny it is ).

[Sageblink]

Is it his Ultimate form or just a X-up ?

[Akashin]

Definitely looks like a new Evolution to me, though you'd think the use of Superior Mode might imply it being similar to X7 Superior Mode (and there's been no mention of the Code Crown this season, so those two being similar is a long shot).

[Guido]

At least to me, this episode didn't look like a total waste. This time they tossed again a very dark, digimon antagonist for the week.

Pretty much the episode was based on the play Faust with Phelesmon being the greatest nod to the Devil character of the play; Makoto as Faust exchanging his being for the sake of making friends; and the proverbial contract that almost doom the protagonists along with the whole school.

This could have been a good and dark episode in comparison to the Tamers episode when Rika got tempted by the IceDevimon.

If anything, Phelesmon was portrayed as simply misguided by its own perceived ideals about power through friendship, and it almost beated our heroes.

Just too bad that he'll get pretty dumbed down by the Digimon Hunting now that it's been captured, as somebody else pointed out.

[Akashin]

Spoiler for Ep 70:

Wow, totally forgettable character of the week is forgettable. =/

That aside, this episode was about what I expected it to be; that is to say, boring. Boring conflict (if it can be called that), boring story... Small plus in that Taiki was actually written away from this crap, and that his absence gave Yuu the chance to show off that he does in fact still have functioning braincells. It feels like the days of him being every bit as intelligent as Taiki are gone, but compared to Tagiru (and Airu for that matter) he might as well be a genius. Him having to control Arresterdramon for Tagiru to get things done actually made me laugh though; I said it last time, but seriously, how the hell am I going to buy Tagiru surpassing Taiki when it ends up happening?

There isn't a whole lot else to say on the episode. Here's hoping next week is better (that seems to be the only thing keeping me going; every week I tell myself, "Next week has to be better than this."), but the preview didn't give me any great hope for that. Plus, I feel trolled for thinking for a moment that DarkKnightmon was back; seriously, him coming back would single-handedly make me love next week's episode.

[Guido]

I actually think this episode has a good start setting up the creepy and dreaded ghost-hunting environment, and Kaoru possesses an assertive and courageous personality which I take fond of for girls of her type.

The issue here is that the ghost hunting mood became pretty much wretched by Tagiru's ghost phobia rants, and once he deduced the supposed spirit to be an actual Digimon he went automatically head over heels for the hunt.
The mood was pretty much broken once Airu entered the scene, though I got to admit her hysterical antics attempting to hog Yuu all by herself were pretty entertaining.

Good points to mention were Kaoru being a strong and assertive girl, and Taiki not involving himself at all in Tagiru and Yuu's ghost-hunting because had to stay behind to help the baseball club. I forgot to add that there was no actual Digimon-hunting, because both Patamon and Poyomon were neither abusive nor evil in any sense.

Bad points are that Kaoru won't be making anymore appearances after this, and Tagiru again doesn't get any kind of development in his character to indicate that he'll eventually surpass Taiki.

The next episode (that means this week's episode) would be pretty much dumb.