I think the student of Hongo that died is a good comparison for Miu and Kenchi power levels. I know Kenchi gotten stronger since, but I doubt its a big differences.
During the DofD not even Kenichi and Miu combined would have been able to defeat Shou without sustaining major damage themselves. (The only reason Kenichi walked away from that fight is plot armor.) I would argue that the current versions of Miu and Kenichi would still have immense trouble with Shou. As far as feats go, Shou still edges out against either one of them.
Battle 458
Sakaki and Hongou are fighting, and they feel Junazad's ki. Sakaki goes towards the location while Hongou fights. Junazad realized he made a tiny mistake and decides to take Kenichi too. Sakaki realized he is too late and Kenichi is gone. They wonder where they had gone and John calls them telling them he has found Kenichi. Lona falls for Hongou when she thanks him for his help. John gets surrounded by the enemy and Kenichi wakes up in a cell with his leg chained to the ground. Miu talks to her "guru" and he tells her that she has to kill her former "lover" because he betrayed her and the only thing she needs to worry about it following his orders until her memory is back.
Battle 458
Sakaki and Hongou are fighting, and they feel Junazad's ki. Sakaki goes towards the location while Hongou fights. Junazad realized he made a tiny mistake and decides to take Kenichi too. Sakaki realized he is too late and Kenichi is gone. They wonder where they had gone and John calls them telling them he has found Kenichi. Lona falls for Hongou when she thanks him for his help. John gets surrounded by the enemy and Kenichi wakes up in a cell with his leg chained to the ground. Miu talks to her "guru" and he tells her that she has to kill her former "lover" because he betrayed her and the only thing she needs to worry about it following his orders until her memory is back.
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Yeah. Glad I stopped reading. Kenichi has just become pathetic. Doesn't even try to fight.
Why the Demon take Kenichi? he want that Kenichi become his disciple?
The Demon said that has made a mistake..for what? in the chapter 457 he want that Miu kill Kenichi..,mmm look like the Demon want that Kenichi became his disciple..
Disappointed...really disappointed...i really hope that the Author make Kenichi and Miu fight seriously...and soon...i want to see them fight...fxxx!
Why? why the Author continue like this?!...i'm really tired to see Kenichi like this.....when you want to grow his character?ufffffffffffff
Guess he never counted on Kenichi having this much of an impact on Miu, and his mistake was not killing him the first time when he snatched Miu. He used Kenichi's supposed death as hate fuel for Miu. Not going to work now since he showed up alive. Which he obviously expects Miu to rectify.
As far as the rest. It was expected for Miu to lay Kenichi out like that. She never gave him a chance to do anything. Not like he would've anyways. Maybe being caged like an animal and knowing the girl love is going to off you might make him think a bit. Doubt it though since he's hard headed on the whole female thing. There are ways to beat her without knocking this shit out of her but has learned any grappling techniques? Can't remember since it's been forever when he learned something new.
Guess he never counted on Kenichi having this much of an impact on Miu, and his mistake was not killing him the first time when he snatched Miu. He used Kenichi's supposed death as hate fuel for Miu. Not going to work now since he showed up alive. Which he obviously expects Miu to rectify.
As far as the rest. It was expected for Miu to lay Kenichi out like that. She never gave him a chance to do anything. Not like he would've anyways. Maybe being caged like an animal and knowing the girl love is going to off you might make him think a bit. Doubt it though since he's hard headed on the whole female thing. There are ways to beat her without knocking this shit out of her but has learned any grappling techniques? Can't remember since it's been forever when he learned something new.
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But what i mean is, why the Demon stopped Miu?and take Kenichi?
If The demon wanted that Miu kill Kenichi,coul let her do it..
But what i mean is, why the Demon stopped Miu?and take Kenichi?
If The demon wanted that Miu kill Kenichi,coul let her do it..
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Well I can't say for sure, since I haven't seen the chapter. But my first guess would be he sensed Sakaki's ki and decided to beat a hasty retreat. Perhaps he wishes to "complete" Miu before he tangles with Sakaki. Not sure if he knows Hongo's here, but I know it won't be long before he finds out. And I know it won't be long before Hayato arrives, hope he doesn't get too worn out from running all over the globe. Even the Invincible Superman has his limits. ^^;; But I know Jenazad's only delaying the inevitable: his much needed comeuppance. Looking forward to it so much. Until then...
Well I can't say for sure, since I haven't seen the chapter. But my first guess would be he sensed Sakaki's ki and decided to beat a hasty retreat. Perhaps he wishes to "complete" Miu before he tangles with Sakaki. Not sure if he knows Hongo's here, but I know it won't be long before he finds out. And I know it won't be long before Hayato arrives, hope he doesn't too worn out from running all over the globe. Even the Invincible Superman has his limits. ^^;; But I know Jenazad's only delaying the inevitable: his much needed comeuppance. Looking forward to it so much. Until then...
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The demon already know that there is also Hongo..is mentioned in chapter or 457..but i don't get because the Demon stopped Miu..and trapped Kenichi..The demon said that Kenichi life is perfect to complete the change of Miu..and instead binds Kenichi...we'll have to wait to find out ..damn!but i hope that Superman (hayato) didn't show until the end..i don't want that he join in the fight..i prefer that is Hongo that fight The Demon..
Well I can't say for sure, since I haven't seen the chapter. But my first guess would be he sensed Sakaki's ki and decided to beat a hasty retreat. Perhaps he wishes to "complete" Miu before he tangles with Sakaki. Not sure if he knows Hongo's here, but I know it won't be long before he finds out. And I know it won't be long before Hayato arrives, hope he doesn't too worn out from running all over the globe. Even the Invincible Superman has his limits. ^^;; But I know Jenazad's only delaying the inevitable: his much needed comeuppance. Looking forward to it so much. Until then...
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It's just too bad that Kenichi most likely won't have a part in it. He'll probably either be too busy getting beat up by Miu or standing around watching the others fight.
The demon already know that there is also Hongo..is mentioned in chapter or 457..but i don't get because the Demon stopped Miu..and trapped Kenichi..The demon said that Kenichi life is perfect to complete the change of Miu..and instead binds Kenichi...we'll have to wait to find out ..damn!but i hope that Superman (hayato) didn't show until the end..i don't want that he join in the fight..i prefer that is Hongo that fight The Demon..
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Somehow I doubt Hayato will show up anytime soon. I agree Sakaki and Hongo will tangle with Jenazad first. But since both are still injured from their incredibly brutal fight, I doubt they'll be able to defeat him. And I'm sure Hongo will die in this arc, most likely killed by Jenazad himself.
But that part with Miu talking to Jenazad, does this mean she knows his true identity, yet is following him regardless? That doesn't sound good at all, and it blows my theory out of the water. I'd thought if Jenazad was exposed, Miu would realize he'd deceived her and turn against him. Even if she hadn't regained her memories, she'd know Jenazad tricked her. But, i guess we'll find out in time.
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It's just too bad that Kenichi most likely won't have a part in it. He'll probably either be too busy getting beat up by Miu or standing around watching the others fight.
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He's already had a part in it, his mere presence has undermined Jenazad's plans for Miu. Of course he's trying to rectify this by having Miu eliminate him, but the plan is destined to fail. He should've studied more, then he'd realize more anime/manga/video game villains are killed because they kidnapped the hero's girlfriend. And for that reason, Silcardo Jenazad is a dead man walking. ^^;; Can't wait for the next chapter.
Somehow I doubt Hayato will show up anytime soon. I agree Sakaki and Hongo will tangle with Jenazad first. But since both are still injured from their incredibly brutal fight, I doubt they'll be able to defeat him. And I'm sure Hongo will die in this arc, most likely killed by Jenazad himself.
But that part with Miu talking to Jenazad, does this mean she knows his true identity, yet is following him regardless? That doesn't sound good at all, and it blows my theory out of the water. I'd thought if Jenazad was exposed, Miu would realize he'd deceived her and turn against him. Even if she hadn't regained her memories, she'd know Jenazad tricked her. But, i guess we'll find out in time.
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I agree..nice point...i also think that Hongo will die..i think that Hongo will fight The Demon.., in this moment both of them (Sakaki and Hongo) are "Injured, and i think that their strength is equal, The Demon will fight to kill.., Sakaki no,then Hongo has more chance to win the fight, in being able to beat the demon, because even Hongo will fight to Kill him..however, i think that both of them (Hongo and the Demon, will kill each other...
No, Miu don't know that The Demon is The boy..because Miu has never see The Demon without a Mask..she can't know who was behind the mask...
I just hope that the fight starts soon...and that The Author finally grow up the Kenichi character...
I agree..nice point...i also think that Hongo will die..i think that Hongo will fight The Demon.., in this moment both of them (Sakaki and Hongo) are "Injured, and i think that their strength is equal, The Demon will fight to kill.., Sakaki no,then Hongo has more chance to win the fight, in being able to beat the demon, because even Hongo will fight to Kill him..however, i think that both of them (Hongo and the Demon, will kill each other...
No, Miu don't know that The Demon is The boy..because Miu has never see The Demon without a Mask..she can't know who was behind the mask...
I just hope that the fight starts soon...and that The Author finally grow up the Kenichi character...
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Hmm, a doubt fatality? That could actually happen. Both of them dying on each other's killing blows, very interesting theory.
Another theory that just came to mind; he manages to defeat both of them, but is severely injured in the process. And just as he thinks he's won, Hayato finally appears. And in his weakened state, Jenazad has no chance. Hayato unleashes 100% of his fighting power and reduces Jenazad to paste. Not that I want to see that happen, but it could.
And as for Miu, while she's never seen his face, she's seen those wrinkly old hands of his. If he ever loses those gloves, or his shoes, he's cooked. I'm hoping that's how she starts to regain her memories. Can't wait to find out. Until then...
Hmm, a doubt fatality? That could actually happen. Both of them dying on each other's killing blows, very interesting theory.
Another theory that just came to mind; he manages to defeat both of them, but is severely injured in the process. And just as he thinks he's won, Hayato finally appears. And in his weakened state, Jenazad has no chance. Hayato unleashes 100% of his fighting power and reduces Jenazad to paste. Not that I want to see that happen, but it could.
And as for Miu, while she's never seen his face, she's seen those wrinkly old hands of his. If he ever loses those gloves, or his shoes, he's cooked. I'm hoping that's how she starts to regain her memories. Can't wait to find out. Until then...
Your theory is good..but I really hope that the Elder doesn't show..and that is Hongo that fight the Demon..
In the end of this arc..i want Kenichi became so strong, like this
this hahahahhahaha
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I know people are expecting better, but after seeing Miu get stripped from standing on an electified fence and being electrocuted (chapter 446), I've lost all hope and respect for this series.
Three girls are taking a shower to Miu.well..Fan-cervice Miu is too Hot...The demon put his mask on his face..so, the fight probably start next chapter..however...what the Demon is planning? to make Miu kill Keichi? or to fight with Miu against Hongo and Sakaki?..damn next week is break..Damn..
Three girls are taking a shower to Miu.well..Fan-cervice Miu is too Hot...The demon put his mask on his face..so, the fight probably start next chapter..however...what the Demon is planning? to make Miu kill Keichi? or to fight with Miu against Hongo and Sakaki?..damn next week is break..Damn..
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*views the pics*
Wow, looks like "Father" is starting to doubt Jenazad. He probably realizes his master intends to go down in flames, and take down as many people with him as possible. I foresee a few defections on his side. Not many, but a few.
And yes, fanservice. Did Miu grow while she was away? What was in that gunk Jenazad made her drink? Heh, should've known he was a pervert on top of everything else, though it seems his saddle's starting to slip as we near the finale of this arc.
As for your theory, I'm leaning towards the former. His story that Hongo killed Kenichi has gone out the window, so the madman had to think up another in order to keep Miu loyal to him. If he sends her against Hongo, she'll be overwhelmed. More likely, Jenazad would wear him down and then let Miu deliver the killing blow, if she still hates Hongo, that is. Though it seems we won't find out until next year, which isn't too far away. Until then..
Wow, looks like "Father" is starting to doubt Jenazad. He probably realizes his master intends to go down in flames, and take down as many people with him as possible. I foresee a few defections on his side. Not many, but a few.
And yes, fanservice. Did Miu grow while she was away? What was in that gunk Jenazad made her drink? Heh, should've known he was a pervert on top of everything else, though it seems his saddle's starting to slip as we near the finale of this arc.
As for your theory, I'm leaning towards the former. His story that Hongo killed Kenichi has gone out the window, so the madman had to think up another in order to keep Miu loyal to him. If she sends her against Hongo, she'll be overwhelmed. More likely, Jenazad would wear him down and then let Miu deliver the killing blow, if she still hates Hongo, that is. Though it seems we won't find out until next year, which isn't too far away. Until then..
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Yes..The father is starting to doubt the Demon...is normal..the Demon want to destroy everything...he doesn't care about anything...this bastard..i hope that he is going to die soon...
No, i don't think that Miu grow,is only little more than a month that she is with the Demon...is her breast that has deceived you...like me...really .. her breast is too big....
the thing that the Demon makes drinking to Miu, is something that destroys the Soul-Heart..to make her bad more fast..
Nice theory..this make sense..maybe the Demon fight and when his opponent is like to dead call Miu for make her kill..mmmm...
I must say that the Demon,although i hate him, He has done a good plan for to change Miu..like the crush of the plane...in the beginning...
However..this idea to kidnap Miu, has been given by Mikumo...i hope the Elder do something to her...well..i have an idea......but i can't think that i can write it...
Yes..The father is starting to doubt the Demon...is normal..the Demon want to destroy everything...he doesn't care about anything...this bastard..i hope that he is going to die soon...
No, i don't think that Miu grow,is only little more than a month that she is with the Demon...is her breast that has deceived you...like me...really .. her breast is too big....
the thing that the Demon makes drinking to Miu, is something that destroys the Soul-Heart..to make her bad more fast..
Nice theory..this make sense..maybe the Demon fight and when his opponent is like to dead call Miu for make her kill..mmmm...
I must say that the Demon,although i hate him, He has done a good plan for to change Miu..like the crush of the plane...in the beginning...
However..this idea to kidnap Miu, has been given by Mikumo...i hope the Elder do something to her...well..i have an idea......but i can't think that i can write it...
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I don't that'll be a problem, Jenazad's not getting out of this arc alive. That's practically a given now.
Not just her breasts, but she seems a bit fuller in the rear as well. Baby definitely got back. Two weeks of supreme silat training really helped her figure, didn't it?
You're not the only one who despises Jenazad, but he still made for a great villain. He's one of the few members of YAMI who's truly evil, with virtually no redeeming qualities. Indeed, he doesn't seek redemption, but destruction. The sign of a true villain. But what will become of Miu after he dies? I really want to know. Until then...
I don't that'll be a problem, Jenazad's not getting out of this arc alive. That's practically a given now.
Not just her breasts, but she seems a bit fuller in the rear as well. Baby definitely got back. Two weeks of supreme silat training really helped her figure, didn't it?
You're not the only one who despises Jenazad, but he still made for a great villain. He's one of the few members of YAMI who's truly evil, with virtually no redeeming qualities. Indeed, he doesn't seek redemption, but destruction. The sign of a true villain. But what will become of Miu after he dies? I really want to know. Until then...
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The most part that i see that change in Miu is her eyes...her eyes are look like the killer of Yami disciple..like Rachel Stanley,and Chikage Kushinada.., but yes..maybe the silat training helped a bit her figure.
To tell you the true, i hope that Kenichi is able to return her to normal during the fight...in this case, she can't care about the Demon die..
would be nice to see that in the end, when Miu returns to normal, the Demon tries to kill her ..and Kenichi go crazy like berseker....ho man,i dream of this moment for a long time..to see the real strength of Kenichi without a limiter..Sakaki and Hongo injured, and they can't move, Miu injured in the fight with Kenichi and she can't move, the Demon also injured in the fight with Hongo or Sakaki, but he can still move, he try to kill Miu, Kenichi go berseker and try to kill the Demon and we see Mikumo that watch the fight because her real plan was to make Kenichi became a bad guy, and in the final moment the Elder Show up before Kenichi kill the Demon...hahaha..my imagination is really too much
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hahahahhahaha
Until then..
