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Old 2004-10-23, 04:12   Link #1
kboykb
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**.The Ranking Of Techniques.**

It's 2 A.M. and I'm completely bored and not sleepy whatsoever, so...

Okay - after rewatching the episodes of Jiraiya teaching Naruto the Rasengan, this six levels of difficulty for the techniques came to my mind. Put up your opinion on all the techniques you know - and what you think their destructive level should be.

Also put in a mastery level if you can think of one. Like some of Sasuke's Katon no jutsus - although they may do relatively little damage at his current stage and are easy to master, after his chakra capacity grows their destruction level will be much greater.

I'm kind of confused, Jiraiya said the Rasengan was a 5/6 on the scale - and mentioned the 4th needing 3 years to do it.. so maybe he was talking about mastering the move in general? Yeah.. I think that's it, not really destructive levels, but maybe..
Put the *CURRENT* destructive levels though, not what you think they'll be at later times.

This is an opinionated thread. All of this is my take on what I thought about the techniques at 3 a.m. I insist that you come in and give your opinions on certain techniques, and maybe later on we can separate them and think up a list of genjutsu, and ninjutsu techniques, and different levels of water, fire, and earth element techniques.

ML: Mastery Level.. maybe not *complete* mastery, but enough. DL: Destructive Level

These techniques go for *ANYBODY*. I'm just putting them under the ninjas that use them in the series..

general techniques:
Kawarimi: ML: 1
Bunshin: ML: 1
Genjustsu Dispelling: ML: 2 or even 3 since some Ninja couldn't dispel Kabuto's.
ANBU Paralysis Techniques: ML: 2 DL: **3

Genin

Naruto:
Rasengan
ML: 5
DL: At the current moment, 4-5

Not really a technique :-) but, Kyuubi Chakra
ML: 6 (he's still trying to get the hang of it)
DL: 6

Seduction Henge:
ML: 1
DL: 1, 6 against perverts.

Kuchiyose:
ML: 5 for Naruto. He has to actually learn to control the Kyuubi chakra to summon any toads besides Gamakichi (tatsu) and Gamabunta.
DL: Gamakichi and Gamatatsu - 1 - Gamabunta 6

Kage Bunshin
ML: 3
DL: Depends on how they're used.. normally 2-3

Mass Kage Bunshin
ML: 4
DL: 4-5

Naruto Rendan (combo)
ML: 2
DL: 1

Thousand Years of Pain:
ML: 1
DL: 1 - with explosive tag - ouch. 4!!

Sasuke
Katon Goukakyuu no jutsu (blazing fireball) against Kakashi and others
ML: 2
DL: 1

Katon Housenka no Jutsu (Phoenix Fire) Against Mubi
ML: 2
DL: 1

Katon Housenka no justu against Temari
ML: 2
DL: 2

Katon Ryuuka no jutsu (Dragon Fire) (against oro)
ML: 2
DL: 3

Chidori
ML: 4
DL: 5

Neji
Gentle Fist Taijutsu:
ML: 6 (to see and understand the path of chakra throughout the tenketsu)
DL: 4-6

Kaiten
ML: 4
DL: 3

Hakke Rokujuuyonshou (Divination Field, 64 Strikes)
ML: 5
DL: 5 On anyone unless they can defend it or have another Chakra source.

Lee

Konoha windstrike - whirlwind, and whatever else he calls out his attacks with.:
ML: 1
DL: 2


Primary Lotus:
ML: 5-6
DL: Depends on how many gates, but 4-6

Secondary Lotus
ML: 4
DL: 3-4

Gates in General:
ML: 5
DL: Anywhere from 4-5 for now, since Lee can't open all of them.

Shikamaru
Kage Mane (shadow imitation)
ML: 3
DL: - depends on what you do with it, normally 3. 6 if he actually kills the opponent.

Chouji
Meat Tank:
ML: 2
DL: 2

Ino
Mind-Transfer
ML: 3
DL: 2

Gaara
Desert Funeral
ML: 3
DL: 4

Sand Ball! With the 3rd Eye
ML: 4
DL: 4 if you get close.

Transforming into the the monster:
ML: 4
DL: 4

Transforming into the perfect Form
ML: 4
DL: 6

Transforming into Shukaku:
ML: 5
DL: 6

Sand Shuriken:
ML: 2
DL: 2

Kankuro
Controlling The Puppet
ML: 4**
DL: 2-3

Shino
hasn't shown any "techniques" yet, as in forming seals or anything.

Temari
Ninpou Kamaitachi (Whirlwind)
ML: 2
DL: 3

Kiba
Gijyuu Ninpou (beast mimicry)
ML: 2
DL: 2

Gatsuuga (Double Fang Destroyer)
ML: 3
DL: 3 (it's a master move)

TenTen
Soushouryu (Rising Twin Dragons)
ML: 2
DL: 3

Chuunin

Sound 4:
Barrier
ML: 4
DL: 6 if you touch it.

Kidoumaru (spider guy)
Ninpou Kumoshibari (to stop the ANBU)
ML: 3
DL: 3

Special Jounin

anko
Hidden Snake Hands
ML: 3
DL: 3

Dual Snake Destroyer
ML: 4
DL: 6

Hayate
Dance of the Crescent Moon:
ML: 5
DL: 4

Aoba
Only showed a Fire attack.. just like Sasuke's Goukakyuu no jutsu.
ML:2
DL: 3-4 (bit stronger than Sasuke's)

Shizune

Ninpou Dokugiri (poison mist)
ML: 3
DL: 4


Jounin

Kakashi:
Chidori
ML: 4
DL: 5-6

Kuchiyose no jutsu
ML: 3
DL: Depends on what dog he sends.. 1-3

Ninpou, Suiton Suijinheki (water wall) - same thing that the 2nd did. Compare the difference..
ML: 3
DL: 3

Gai

Gates
ML: 5
DL: 6

Konoha Strong Whirlwind!
ML: 2
DL: 4! One swift kick does it all.

Dynamic Entry:
ML: 6 - if you don't have the passion, it's useless.
DL: 4 - devastating.

Zabuza:
Water Clone
ML: 1
DL: 2

Suiton Suiryuudan no jutsu (Water Dragon Bullet)
ML: 3
DL: 3

Suiton Daibakufu no jutsu (Originally Zabuza's.. Kakashi used the attack first against him)
ML: 2
DL: 4

Kurenai
Genjutsu on Itachi
ML: 4
DL: 4

Baki
I don't have eps 50-60 on my cpu.. so
Wind attack:
ML: 3
DL: 4-5

Chomaru
Baika no jutsu (double weight)
ML: 4
DL: 5

Ino's dad
Shinranshin no jutsu (mind confusion)
ML: 4
DL: 4-5

Nara Shikotsu
Kage mane no jutsu
ML:3
DL: Same as Shikamaru's.. 3 normally, 4-6 if he wants to do something nasty.

Shadow Neck Hold
ML: 4
DL: 5

S-class criminals or others

Kabuto:
Chakra Scalpel
ML: 4
DL: 4-5

Normal healing techniques:
ML: 3
DL:- none

Regenration ability:
ML: 5
DL: -none

Mass Genjutsu at the stadium.
ML: 4
DL: Depends on what you do while they're sleeping 3.

Kisame
Suiton, Suikoudan no jutsu (Water Shark Missle)
ML: 3
DL: 4


Hiashi: - same as Neji just about.. except..

Kaiten:
ML: 4
DL: 5**

Also his Gentle Fist is stronger - Neji might not be able to take out a high class jounin just with one blow (or maybe he can)


Haku:
Flying Water of a Thousand Kills:
ML:2
DL:2

Bloodline Limit: Master Technique: Mirror of Ice Crystals
ML:5
DL: debatable - 5 against Sasuke.

The Top Dogs

Sandaime

Death God Technique:
ML: 6
DL: 6

Ninpou Kawara Shuriken (tile shuriken)
ML: 2
DL: 3

Doton Doryuu Taiga (moving land river)
ML: 3
DL: 4

Doton Doryuudan (Earth Dragon Missle)
ML: 3
DL: 4

When Doryuudan is mixed with Karyuudan (fire dragon missle) - the DL goes to 5.

I think anyone else besides Oro and Sannin level ninjas would've been dead if they had been trapped in that earth fire river.

Shuriken Kagebunshin no Jutsu
ML: 3
DL: 4

Katon Karyuu Endan (Fire Dragon Flame missle)
ML: 4
DL: 5

Doton Doryuuheki (Earth Wall)
ML: 4
DL: - - - hmm is there one?

Kuchiyose for Enma:
ML: 3
DL: 5-6

Shodaime

Mokuton Hijutsu Jukai Kouton (Birth of trees)
ML: 5
DL: 5-6

Nidaime
Suiton Suijinheki (Water element, Water Wall)
ML: 4
DL: 5

Suiton Suishouha (Water Wave)
ML: 4
DL: 5

Manipulation of water (pulling sandaime in) and water projectiles.. if it is a jutsu..
ML: 3
DL: 3-4

Even though the 1st did it in the manga I think..

Genjutsu, Kokuangyou no Jutsu (Absolute Darkness)
ML: 5
DL: 5 (It's complete darkness, incredibly devastating)

Orochimaru
Kuchiyose no jutsu:
ML: 3
DL: - 3 - 6 (manda)

Immortality Jutsu:
ML: 6

Edo Tensei: (Reincarnation of the impure world)
ML: 6
DL: 6

Technique Oro used to kill the 2 ANBU with Sarutobi, and bring Enma to his knees
ML: 4
DL: 5

Hidden Snake Hands
ML: 3
DL: 4 since he can bite with his.

Fuuin (sealing) of kyuubi:
ML: 5 - there had to be some reason only the sannins and the third know it.. although it was most likely just kept a secret between them.
DL: - - - -

Jiraiya
Kuchiyose
ML: 3
DL: - Sand Destroyer (5) - Gama (6) - the toad he beat Ebisu with (4) - Guardian toad protecting Naruto from Kisame (3)..

Ransengan:
ML: 5
DL: 6

Doton Yomi Numa (Hell Swamp)
ML: 4
DL: 4

Hari Jizou (Needle Guardian)
ML: 3
DL: 3

Katon Gamayo Emudan (Fire Blowing)
ML: 3
DL: 4 - when accompanied with Gama's oil, goes to 5.

Tsunade

Kuchiyose of Katsuya
ML: 3
DL: 6

Ninpo Sozo Saise (Genesis of Rebirth)
ML: 6
DL: 6

Medical Technique she was going to use on Orochimaru
ML: 5
DL: 5

Nervous system attack:
ML: 4
DL: 4

Itachi
Mangekyou Sharingan - Tsukuyomi
ML: 6
DL: If you have a fairly strong mentality like Kakashi, 5.. for the weak-minded, 6.

Amaterasu
ML: 6
DL: 6

Exploding Kage Bunshin:
ML: 2
DL: 4

OK, it's 5 A.M. I'm going to bed.

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Old 2004-10-23, 06:07   Link #2
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LOL! You must have been bored shitless.

Anyway I'm getting in the shower now i'll read all that shizzle later.
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Old 2004-10-23, 06:46   Link #3
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You cant realle ML the Sexy No Jutsu....

Sexy No Jutsu:
ML=10000000 -No One else has this technique so therefore infinite!!
DL=6 against anyone.

Sennin Goroshi (Kakashi)
ML=6
DL=6 (it realle hurts if no lube is used)

Inner Sakura
ML=1
DL=-10

Shishi Rendan
ML=1 (stupid sharingan)
DL=2-4

Naruto Nisen Rendan
ML=4-6 (u have to use heaps of bunshins)
DL=4-6 (he got gaara pretty good)

Byukkugan
ML=6 (Very Hard to Master as shown in Anime)
DL=0

Sharingan (Sasuke)
ML=2 (in anime) 3-4 (manga *no spoiler)
DL=0 (in anime and manga, he hasnt mastered it completely)

Sharingan (Kakashi)
ML=3-4
DL=Genjustu 0-1

Sharingan (Itachi)
ML=900000000000000000000 (he so damm cool)
DL=900000000000000000000 (both sasuke and kakashi were owned)

Sexy Eyebrows (Lee)
ML= 6 (THEIR SO DAMM SEXY!)
DL= 6 (THEIR BLIND U, the reflection)
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Old 2004-10-23, 08:40   Link #4
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LOL! You must have been bored shitless.

Anyway I'm getting in the shower now i'll read all that shizzle later.
100% agree.
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Old 2004-10-23, 10:31   Link #5
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I just couldn't help it, an idea just popped in my head and I just went with it

Good on the extras sakura-san*

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Old 2004-10-23, 11:50   Link #6
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Well done, that is a pretty good list of relative powers See.. boredom can do alot of good
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Old 2004-10-25, 04:02   Link #7
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boredom pwns alll!

just last night i played doom 2!....

so trying not to get off topic

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ML:3 (Sasuke is a fast learner)
DL:4 (if used with sharingan can deal smart damage)
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Old 2004-10-25, 06:22   Link #8
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Agree with all, except for the Jukai Koudan (1th's jutsu).
And you forgot gaara's new jutsuesert reqiuem and 2 other Sand techniques.
it'd be soo cool if you wrote thos!!!
the 3th stated that the only person that was able to master that technique was the 1th.
Mastery level should be 6.
But thanks for finding out some oroginal names for the jutsu, I was searching for the Doton: Yomi Numa.
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Old 2004-10-25, 13:39   Link #9
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Why does suijinheki have a destructive level?
I agree about the mastery level idea though, you can see the differences between the same jutsu according to its user's skill. The best example is kakashi's water wall, which wasnt very tall, and nidaime's water wall, which was extremely huge and there was no prescence of water.
Theres obviously some jutsu that wont get any better, like kawarimi/replacement, but those jutsu rise in usefulness in how sneaky/quickly you can do the seals. but then again, with all the inconsistencies with seal usage, a random set of seals would get you anything you want XD
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Old 2004-10-25, 14:06   Link #10
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Old 2004-10-25, 15:40   Link #11
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Mangekyou and Amaterasu both 10 !
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Old 2004-10-26, 13:56   Link #12
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I think Gaara's Desert Coffin will tomato ketchup of anything it wants so I would rank it a bit higher. I know Naruto escaped but after all, he did summon a BIG frog in it.
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I think Gaara's Desert Coffin will tomato ketchup of anything it wants so I would rank it a bit higher. I know Naruto escaped but after all, he did summon a BIG frog in it.
Nah! Gai blew it away as if it were nothink, to another gennin yeah its a cool move but to a more l337 ninja its chump cheese.
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Old 2004-10-26, 18:39   Link #14
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Garaa was also exhausted and nearly out of chakra, seeing as he only caught parts of lee instead of entirely covering him like gaara would normally do. We just cant tell if gai would still have that easy of a time deflecting it if garaa were at top condition.
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Old 2004-10-26, 18:53   Link #15
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Garaa was also exhausted and nearly out of chakra, seeing as he only caught parts of lee instead of entirely covering him like gaara would normally do. We just cant tell if gai would still have that easy of a time deflecting it if garaa were at top condition.
But why was he almost out of chakra? He did what?

Stand there for a bit and use nothink as the sand acts without his will.

Then he got pwnd which uses the sheils of sand which uses some of gaars chakra.

Then he used Kwamari I think thats what its called.

To me that dosennt seem like a lot of chakra useage.

Simple fact is gennin and jounin levels are are too far apart I think the guy who writes the manga has shown this throughout. Gai could and would stp any of Gaara's attacks with ease as any other jounin would. Otherwise Gaara would be a sand jounin by now not still a gennin, that is without the big monster thats inside of him but that dosen't really count because if it did then we could say the same about Naruto.

He is a genin and would get his ass handed to him by gai or kakshi. but if he was psyco fox naruto he would hand thier asses to them.

Do you see what i mean?
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Old 2004-10-26, 20:56   Link #16
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erm okay...I thought the indications of Gaara not being nearly as threatening at the end of the lee fight as he was when they started were pretty obvious.
Gaara only used the kawarimi for the first time lee used lotus. That means that he was really the one being battered around the arena the second time after lee opened his gates. He didnt get KOed from the final hit because his sand cushioned him for it, but he did take the other hits, It's also been said by kankuro i believe, that his second layer of defense, the sand over his skin, takes up a lot of chakra. He isnt even able to get up immediately after lee's attack, his sand was sluggish when it was going after lee, and he could only grasp lees arm and leg instead of his whole body. When he composed himself enough to send a second wave of sand is when gai arrived to bat away the sand. How can you insist that these conditions reflect absolute potential?
The point stands that we won't know if Gai would have done the same thing or not if gaara was in his best shape.
Since most of these things destructive levels are for when someone is caught in the jutsus anyways, garaas should be at maximum deadliness.
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