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2013-06-20, 09:33 | Link #1603 | |
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They are ranked according to their powers' usefulness in Aleister Crowley's master plan to create an Artificial Heaven. So the invisibility theory still stands, I see. But why would anyone create a "Badass Normal" Level 5 when we already have that in Mister GUTS. |
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2013-06-20, 11:01 | Link #1604 |
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So I'm reading V6 Kakine says his dark matter can produce human brains. And with more human brains he can produce new personal realities?
With this idea. Who would win in a fight of manipulating personal realities? Kakine? Or the theoretical level 5 Takitsubo Rikou? |
2013-06-20, 11:10 | Link #1605 | |
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I know that Lv5 are ranked according to their powers' usefulness.
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2013-06-20, 11:19 | Link #1606 |
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Then in that case, the "strength and control" criteria only works for Levels 1-4.
There are abilities which cannot be classified as anything but Level 0, such as Touma's IB and Tsuchimikado's Auto-Regeneration. |
2013-06-20, 11:46 | Link #1607 | |
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Simple example: Misaka clone (Lv2-3), Misaka worst (Lv4), Misaka Mikoto (Lv5) Misaka Mikoto power's strength/control are better than Misaka worst (Lv4) that's why she is Lv5. Misaka worst has the same abilities as Mikoto (lv5) but to a lesser degree - that's why she's level 4. This example show that they have the criteria to decide the level from 0-5 for all abilities. Therefore, even power like Dummy Check will have a criteria to decide level from 0-5. It just that when they decide the rank among level 5 ,they use "usefulness" as criteria. Did you misunderstand my earier post somehow??...we don't seem to talk about the same topic. Touma's IB and Tsuchimikado's Auto-Regeneration are special cases - uncount. And no, Gunha definitely not 'normal'. P.S. I won't deny the other theories of 6th power because my theory is also just a theory.
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2013-06-20, 20:49 | Link #1608 |
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Let me give my theory for the #6.
Kihara Noukan is possibly the #6. Here are my reasons. We know that animals cannot become espers because they need to have the intelligence of at least a 5 year old and are usually as smart as a 2 year old human child. In contrast, Noukan has external arithmetic circuits attached. Furthermore, he is smarter than Kihara Yuiitsu, one of the smartest Kiharas. This makes me conclude that he could definitely be an esper. Considering that Kihara Nayuta is a level 4 esper, and that she wasn't the smartest Kihara, I feel like Noukan could be a level 5 since he is the most influential one. Otherwise, how could a non-human become the most influential (thing) in many different fields? This makes me believe Noukan either has some power like mental out, or can transform his appearance at will. If he were the #6, it would certainly explain why he could never be found. The transformation part would match too because it has been said that for espers in the city that could transform, lower level espers could change their appearance, but not actually change their identity on the genetic level. If this Kihara could change his genetic appearance, he could potentially use other level 5's powers. However, I'm guessing that this Kihara could only transform into people with less ability than him, so therefore couldn't transform into #1-#5 if this were true. #7 would just be a special exception in this case. I feel like this is somewhat plausible given how strange the situation with Noukan is and because what we've read so far about him is somewhat ridiculous. I feel like he really may be at least some sort of powerful Esper. I believe that it is possible that his arithmetic circuits are powered by some external power source similar to the Spoiler for old testament LN 3:
What do you guys think about this for the #6? It's a far-fetched theory, but it would explain at least a few things. In any case, I do believe that Noukan must be an esper of some form... otherwise, I don't see why he would be in the position that he is at the moment. |
2013-06-20, 23:03 | Link #1609 | |
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The most 'transformation' should do is to change the outside appearance but his brain, his thought, his personlity,his power will remain the same. He will only able to use the same power as his target person if he transform his brain into that person brain compeltly. AND If his brain change to a target person brain, he will lose his 'transformation' ability as his brain changed to target's brain. He won't be able to return to his own self again in that case.
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2013-06-21, 10:20 | Link #1610 | |
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I really still think he has a power that is powerful even if it isn't level 5. How else would he be that influential? I really don't expect something unrelated to some sort of scientific power/ability to explain that away. Otherwise, I feel like it shouldn't make sense. Of course, Kiharas can do things other people can't... |
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2013-06-26, 21:46 | Link #1613 | |
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As for its power, it depends on how good you can control it. Of course a basic power will be control and move salt at will. On advance level, however.......Your power may improve to the point that you can control Sodium in a target body as salt is a crystalline mineral that is composed primarily of sodium chloride (NaCl) By controling the sodium, you may inflict your target with hyponatremia - an electrolyte disturbance in which the sodium ion concentration in the serum is lower than normal. The presence and severity of symptoms are associated with the level of serum sodium (salt level in the blood) Symptoms of hyponatremia include nausea and vomiting, headache, confusion, lethargy, fatigue, loss of appetite, restlessness and irritability, muscle weakness, spasms, or cramps, seizures, and decreased consciousness or coma. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyponatremia It's pretty scary
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2013-06-27, 00:39 | Link #1614 | |
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2013-06-28, 10:58 | Link #1617 |
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Not sure who alfar is but sure?
Basically it's the absolute crystallization of magic. Unlike Magic gods that have access to all possibilities. The arm has all possibilities outside of the realm of possibility. The ability to disfigure someone jsut by touching them or even warping the world without really trying. If Imagine Breaker is the arm which contains the blue print of the original world. This other power has a blue print of the original world and makes everything that's not supposed to be in the blue print happen. |
2013-06-28, 11:07 | Link #1620 |
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Close but not quite. Alfar's ability is to distort evolution. So it affects only living things. I haven't read Norse SS yet but I plan to. Judging just from her ability's name I am assuming her ability only works on living things.
What I'm saying expands to even reality, the air, any weapon the science side has. But it is just a normal right arm in the face of Magic. Because Magic is already a distortion in the world, this arm of distortions cannot destroy or manipulate it. In the face of guns, nuclear bombs and the like, it is extremely powerful. |
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