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View Poll Results: Nanoha StrikerS - Overall series rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 47 | 15.99% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 52 | 17.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 57 | 19.39% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 62 | 21.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 44 | 14.97% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 8 | 2.72% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 11 | 3.74% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 3 | 1.02% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.34% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 9 | 3.06% | |
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2011-09-05, 09:58 | Link #341 | |
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I think your review is way off base. I'll give it a total of 8 out of 10. It's pretty obvious to me that you don't like the series for your percieved weaknesses of the story, characters and art style. The story did have a lot of cliches and the characters had some flaws but I think the way the whole was put together more than outweighed the flaws of the individual parts. I would rewatch the whole series without hesitation.
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2013-02-06, 23:00 | Link #342 |
Manus ad Ferrum
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Costa Rica
Age: 33
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Oh well, I want to say what I think about this show so let’s do it.
My general impression of the series is… bad. It was actually a surprise because I did consider this could be the best of the three seasons. After the first two I was ready for more and when I hear this one will have twice the amount of episodes I was really looking forward to it. And then I see it and that illusion and hope die in a very horrible manner. Now, you might believe there is nothing much to say that hasn’t been consider yet but I still want to leave my opinion. This was never a strong point on previous Nanoha series. The stories were the same in both the first season and A’s actually: plot device thing is bad and some people want it to stop it others to use it and they fight for it but in the end they become friends. Is actually done really straight in A’s and a little more interesting in the first season but it was never new. StrikerS does things different and shows why this franchise should never step away from the previous formula. The plot in StrikerS is hard to tell because at this day I don’t really get it. So let’s see… a mad scientist is preparing a doomsday device to be release because the people who he works for control of the police/army/governmental organization that might try to stop him but allow him to go free so he can make things for them that he never delivers. So our heroines are to save the day because they hear this from a prophecy that predicts an attack on the main base of the organization but the guy who runs the show and also works for the same bad people as the scientist doesn’t believe this even when he lives in a world of magic so the heroines make up a special team to hunt down some crystals that have nothing to do with the doomsday device but that the bad guy that they don’t know anything about also wants but in reality they are making this to prepare for the attack on the main base and they don’t tell this to anyone because they feel the need to keep things secrets. So they get an elite group of the best people around and 4 rookies to fight the attack that happens in any case, but the bad guy kills his employers and tries to take over the world and in the end he fails and our heroines fight between them and they go to live their carriers. Now if that sound like a bunch of ideas put together in a rush is only because that is the sensation I have from this story. StrikerS is a mess that doesn’t know where it begging and where it ends. Is not help by the change of tone all among the series but in general the story moves around with no sense of focus or any idea what is the main plot and what is the sub-plots. Is just terrible in execution and delivers a overall chaotic mess of ideas and characters. The first third of the series is boring and has nothing to do what it comes later on the series where the plot does kick off. In the end what always bugs me here is how strange the story is executed. First seems to be a straight fight for the Relics, then it has something to do with Vivio, then we introduce cyborgs, robots, war, giant space ships and political dilemma that was not mention until that point and go to a rather long and yet rush resolution where nothing seems to be connected as some characters fights end here and there without making an impact on the rest of the fights. It goes down with the cero antagonism created between the main villain and the main characters and how unsympathetic and downright silly the bad guy is. So really what destroys StrikerS is that they take too much time to present characters, introduce several plot ideas at once and execute them all combine to end things fast. Instead of each idea adding to the rest all of them fight for our attention, dragging us away in each turn to their fast resolutions so we can go back to see the others that have nothing to do with the ones we just saw. So really, bad execution of an overambitious plot. But bad stories can be safe by good characters. Sadly StrikerS lacks them. Is not that the characters aren’t nice is that they also suffer from problems. First the necessity of take away the protagonism from Nanoha and the others always bug me. This was made for fans of the previous series and Nanoha’s name is on the title so: how is less Nanoha and new protagonist help the previous fans? And even not taking that in to consideration they still execute things wrong. The Forwards as good or bad you might think they are serve no purpose on the story at all. Everything happening plot related in StrikerS is beyond the Forwards habilities to understand, interact, care or just do something about. Who finds things about Jail? Fate, who trains other units to fight under AMF conditions? Nanoha, who directs the unit and takes care of political things? Hayate. The Forwards on the other hands are just there to serve as soldiers because our main characters happen to be weaken by plot devices that makes them less effective. But really nothing that the Forwards do could not be accomplish in less time and with better results by anyone from the old cast. The bad guys are ven worst. The main villain lacks a reasonable motivation and just act like a crazy person but he always talks about his grand dream of… technology? Jail never has any reason to do what he does. He already is keep safe and founded by a bunch of brains that lack any intelligence and he is command to investigate and create things, yet he wish to kill them and take control so he can do experiments and create things. He also lacks any connection to the main cast and he is only connected to Fate who happens to know about him already so his introduction is a little dramatic as you can get. And moving on things always fall apart. Like Caro’s fear of her powers when we never see her do something wrong with them; Subaru and Ginga being cyborgs when that add nothing to the characters or the story, Teana’s emo trip that was done by using Nanoha’s past to make her feel better about thinking she isn’t that special even when we never see her being in any way inferior to the rest; Ginga being introduce, forget and then bring back to be kidnapped before we can grow to like her; Erio’s lack of anything resembling an arc; Nanoha and Fate’s ambiguous relationship; Hayate being use to do nothing; old character reduce to minor roles in favor of new characters; etc. With a cast that really needs work, how can we get invested later on in the fights? The Numbers are generic and really forgettable. The only thing they made right was to name it like real numbers so is easier to remember. The designs were creative at least to make them look different but nothing really stands about them and they are pointless all things consider. They were there so the Forwards have someone to fight and when a character purpose is to serve for another character’s reason to exist is really not what I call good. And that is how I can resume most of the plot devices and things on this series: are there to make it look like everyone has a purpose. The Limiters were there to give the Forward a purpose, space ships to the rescue to give Chrono a cameo, ancient things to give Yuuno his, Fate’s mother role to Vivio to give Lindy and Arf a cameo, training to fill for the number of episodes, giant AMF field to give Subaru something to do after Ginga is beat, Ginga herself to give Subaru something to do until she can rescue Nanoha, Zest to give Signum something to do while the rest were busy, Lutecia… I think you get the point. Now that doesn’t mean those are bad plot devices but when you come down to it the only reason for most of them to exist is that we need to give so many characters some room in the story. Nanoha was busy with Vivio, Fate with Jail so… what is the rest going to do? Let’s add some minor villains, a ton of robots and let’s have them fight that while the plot is resolve. In the end it all comes down to a sense of disconnection with this series. I don’t like the characters as much as I did in the past because we lost focus so easy and the story is too chaotic or boring to keep a good track so really I am just surfing between things without getting any attach to something and that, to me, is StrikerS worst crime. Overall, 3 out of 10
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2013-02-07, 20:43 | Link #343 |
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Sorry-I'll have to disagree with your thesis on Nanoha StrikerS-it's not super good but it's far from the abomination that you make it out to be. I thought that the characters and storyline were a logical progression from the first 2 series.
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2013-02-07, 20:59 | Link #344 |
Manus ad Ferrum
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Well, to be fair StrikerS is not the worst anime I have seem so far and I kind of see why other may like it. But I am really going to remark is not good. Characters and stories don’t add to each other and just fight for the spotlight, little sense of focus and weird plot and tone. This doesn’t look like a magical girl anime at all so is kind of odd saying is a good continuation of the previous two works when we just discard almost everything that happen there. The main focus is in new characters, we are no longer on Earth, the old characters are older and have some changes we didn’t get to see and there is just so much going on.
Besides the characters that are really trying to advance here are the Forward who didn’t appear in the previous seasons, so how their stories help to develop the previous ones? Just for that I didn’t like StrikerS the rest really comes out when the new story didn’t connect with me as the previous seasons. Which despite being average at best did make me care.
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2013-02-07, 23:53 | Link #346 |
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Was more like Nanoha/Vivio really and in the end nothing really come out from it. Nanoha was not the main character so her little arc of becoming a mother is not even look at and Fate was not really in to raising Vivio when she already had two brats to take care of.
Besides Yuuno and Nanoha didn't end it together and if they did have a child by the end of A's they were just 9 or 15.
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2013-02-08, 00:04 | Link #348 |
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Hey if they don't care to do it right I am not going to just praise their excuse for character development they use. Besides, a little hint in an epilogue is not what I call a love story, even less if we are talking about the main character.
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2013-08-10, 21:04 | Link #351 |
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Strikers wasn't too bad. Too much going on nanoha trying to decide wither or not to adopt Vivio. Subaru Tea dynamic, Caro Erio Fate family dynamic. Too many charectrs. I suspect that they could have done without erio and Caro and used some of the older charecters to help the Nanoha's charecter development, such as Chrono, Lindy, Momok, Yunno.
As for vivid. TO short for its own good, a lot of areas that could be added in order to improve such as einhearts personal life, Vivio coming to terms with who she is and the whole anceint Belkan King Thing. If nothing else it setled the plot down instead of plunging on the way strikers did. In all honesty Stikers should have had a few filler episodes for the fowards to interact with the sub characters. Plus Maybe they should have introduced vivio earlier to make more out of that. I pray Force is the last season other wise it will get absurd. |
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