The Character Discussion Thread of SOS団 Member: Haruhi Suzumiya

[Ricky Controversy]

Suzumiya Haruhi no Seiseikatsu: This is one 'Endless Eight' you have to see.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Well that didn't take long.

[Ricky Controversy]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... Well that didn't take long.

I'm like some kind of Comedy Dolphin Fun-Time Traveling Folk-Gospel Choir and Jamboree Band.

On a less off-topic note, but a more spoiler-tastic one...

Spoiler for Ninth Novel Related:

That Haruhi discovering her godlike powers is bad is fed to us in the canon from day one, but with Sasaki in the picture, here's a different question. Supposing that Haruhi's powers end up in Sasaki's hands somehow, and then Haruhi finds out the truth about herself and the three paranormal SOS-dan members, how do you think she'd react? If she actually has to face these revelations like a normal person rather than unmaking or reshaping the world with her wild emotions...what becomes of her relationships with these people?

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Ricky Controversy

I'm like some kind of Comedy Dolphin Fun-Time Traveling Folk-Gospel Choir and Jamboree Band.

On a less off-topic note, but a more spoiler-tastic one...

Spoiler for Ninth Novel Related:

That Haruhi discovering her godlike powers is bad is fed to us in the canon from day one, but with Sasaki in the picture, here's a different question. Supposing that Haruhi's powers end up in Sasaki's hands somehow, and then Haruhi finds out the truth about herself and the three paranormal SOS-dan members, how do you think she'd react? If she actually has to face these revelations like a normal person rather than unmaking or reshaping the world with her wild emotions...what becomes of her relationships with these people?

That's a really good question. And... I'm going to need to think about it for awhile. Well, for one,

Spoiler for Novel speculation:

I think that Haruhi will be skeptical at first - especially since she won't be able to prove her powers to herself by 'testing' them out.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Ricky Controversy

Spoiler for Ninth Novel Related:

That Haruhi discovering her godlike powers is bad is fed to us in the canon from day one, but with Sasaki in the picture, here's a different question. Supposing that Haruhi's powers end up in Sasaki's hands somehow, and then Haruhi finds out the truth about herself and the three paranormal SOS-dan members, how do you think she'd react? If she actually has to face these revelations like a normal person rather than unmaking or reshaping the world with her wild emotions...what becomes of her relationships with these people?

Spoiler for well:

Originally, they would... probably have just left her.

But now that they're a nakama, nothing would probably happen to their relationships, really.

[Ricky Controversy]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Spoiler for well:

Originally, they would... probably have just left her.

But now that they're a nakama, nothing would probably happen to their relationships, really.

Spoiler for Clarification:

Oh no, I don't doubt that the SOS-dan themselves would stay by her side. I mean how Haruhi herself would react to the whole 'tangled web of lies and secrecy' thing.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Ricky Controversy

Spoiler for Clarification:

Oh no, I don't doubt that the SOS-dan themselves would stay by her side. I mean how Haruhi herself would react to the whole 'tangled web of lies and secrecy' thing.

Spoiler for Novel speculations:

After further thought... she'd favor Kyon even moreso than usual over the rest of the SOS Brigade... because she'd remember how he told her about Nagato, Mikuru, and Koizumi before, and how she blew him off at the time. So, I think it could become a case where Kyon is the only person she would trust at all. I think she'd feel a bit betrayed by the rest of the SOS Brigade.

It would be a big love/hate thing, though... I mean, considering that they are an alien, an esper, and a time traveler from the future.

Haruhi would be torn nastily between sheer excitement over such facts being revealed to her... and resentment over being deliberately kept in the dark for so long.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Spoiler for Novel speculations:

Haruhi would be torn nastily between sheer excitement over such facts being revealed to her... and resentment over being deliberately kept in the dark for so long.

Probably this, yeah.

But in the end... Kyon and Haruhi can only really trust each other anyway, right? Wasn't that kind of the point of Sigh(s)?

I expect a callback to that eventually...

Oh, also.

Originally Posted by Jonbob0008

They're both virgins after all.

I should point this out:

We don't actually know this for certain.

We can be relatively sure Haruhi is, given how she treated boys in middle school but... you know, I'm not exactly sure about Kyon. Sure, he certainly seems extremely innocent given his reactions to seeing Mikuru nearly naked, but... we really don't know. Kyon never talks about his past in great detail.

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Spoiler for Novel speculations:

After further thought... she'd favor Kyon even moreso than usual over the rest of the SOS Brigade... because she'd remember how he told her about Nagato, Mikuru, and Koizumi before, and how she blew him off at the time. So, I think it could become a case where Kyon is the only person she would trust at all. I think she'd feel a bit betrayed by the rest of the SOS Brigade.

It would be a big love/hate thing, though... I mean, considering that they are an alien, an esper, and a time traveler from the future.

Haruhi would be torn nastily between sheer excitement over such facts being revealed to her... and resentment over being deliberately kept in the dark for so long.

And then Kyon tells her he's John Smith...

[Ricky Controversy]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Spoiler for Novel speculations:

After further thought... she'd favor Kyon even moreso than usual over the rest of the SOS Brigade... because she'd remember how he told her about Nagato, Mikuru, and Koizumi before, and how she blew him off at the time. So, I think it could become a case where Kyon is the only person she would trust at all. I think she'd feel a bit betrayed by the rest of the SOS Brigade.

It would be a big love/hate thing, though... I mean, considering that they are an alien, an esper, and a time traveler from the future.

Haruhi would be torn nastily between sheer excitement over such facts being revealed to her... and resentment over being deliberately kept in the dark for so long.

Spoiler for All Purpose Cultural Novel Speculation:

That sounds right to me, though I wonder what forms it would take, because I think Haruhi's the type whose relationships with people work on individual spectra, rather than one unified emotion-response pairing system. So perhaps her taking advantage of Mikuru would become more aggressive, or perhaps more frightening, vanish all together as a sign of the distance? Perhaps she'd contradict Koizumi and whenever he agreed with her, she'd abruptly change her mind? With Yuki...I can actually picture a fairly powerful scene where she loses it at Yuki, perhaps even tearfully, because she held Yuki in special esteem and worried over her in the past, and all this time she only responded with silence.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... Technically speaking, she never asked them if they were really an alien, time traveler and esper...

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... Technically speaking, she never asked them if they were really an alien, time traveler and esper...

Yeah... but that's kind of like aliens in disguise saying to Mulder and Scully, "Well, you never actually asked us if we were aliens or not". It's pretty obvious that they'd like to know.

In fairness, though, it's true that they're not being totally dishonest; just evasive.

[Ithekro]

She didn't have to ask. Kyon told her straight up they were an alien, a time traveler, and an esper. She just didn't believe him...mostly.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Given how Haruhi has said she'd react if she ever found something unusual, I'd say they have a pretty decent reason for simply not telling her.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

Given how Haruhi has said she'd react if she ever found something unusual, I'd say they have a pretty decent reason for simply not telling her.

Well, yeah.

I'm not saying that I necessarily disagree with their choice to keep Haruhi in the dark... just that Haruhi herself obviously wouldn't take kindly to knowing about it. I mean, we are talking about 3 of her 4 best friends here. This, as much as anything, is what makes me feel a bit sorry for Haruhi at times.

[Heatth]

Well, at last I believe Haruhi wouldn't resent Kyon. As Kaisos said, they do trust each other, also Kyon did told her the truth in the very begining, so it is mostly her fault for don't believing.

[Ithekro]

Though she did sort of use that information when thinking up her movie idea. About the only things she doesn't "know" is her own powers...and she might really know about that as well, depending on how one interprets her words while in Closed Space with Kyon

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Though she did sort of use that information when thinking up her movie idea. About the only things she doesn't "know" is her own powers...and she might really know about that as well, depending on how one interprets her words while in Closed Space with Kyon

Haruhi is at least on some level aware of what she is and what she's capable of, yes.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Haruhi is at least on some level aware of what she is and what she's capable of, yes.

Why you say that? She seens pretty oblivious to me.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Heatth

Why you say that? She seens pretty oblivious to me.

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Haruhi is at least on some level aware of what she is and what she's capable of, yes.

Bolded and italicized for extra emphasis.