[MANGA] Bleach Weekly Chapter 500+ Discussion

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

i wouldnt say he messed around, afterall his shikai is kido based, i wonder if his bankai increases his kido to lvl100 with a reduced reitasu cost

I'm saying that he has messed around in previous fights. This time he skipped that step and went straight to Bankai since Askin scared him.

Originally Posted by Romanticide

Of course he panicked, his eye got destroyed.

Right. Some people are asking why he didn't use Kidou...

Originally Posted by Romanticide

It's better than Naruto and how that ended.

Agreed.

[Romanticide]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

Right. Some people are asking why he didn't use Kidou...

He probably would want to conserve his abilities/power, and since kido spells can get pretty long/powerful, he might not want to use them since this enemy has that whole "immunity" thing.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

Of course he panicked, his eye got destroyed.

That's one of it but i think the bigger reason is Yoruichi and her brother, they're running out of time.

[rladls2121]

This one is off topic: Can Quincy's ability Blut Vene prevent Tsukishima's Fullbring Book of the End to from cutting through its defense and insert himself into the user?

[Romanticide]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

This one is off topic: Can Quincy's ability Blut Vene prevent Tsukishima's Fullbring Book of the End to from cutting through its defense and insert himself into the user?

I'd say it wouldn't be possible.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

This one is off topic: Can Quincy's ability Blut Vene prevent Tsukishima's Fullbring Book of the End to from cutting through its defense and insert himself into the user?

Well, the Fullbring is supposed to be able to "cut through anything", and when he does his insert cut, it does no damage. I'd argue that the insert cut isn't physically cutting the target, and thus cannot normally be blocked.

In short, I'd say that if he's cutting to do damage, then Blut Vene can block it, if the practitioner's BV is sufficiently strong, say equivalent to being able to block a Vice-Captain's Zanpakuto. If he's not trying to cut to damage, then it could only be blocked by something specifically designed to block something intangible. And I'm sure such a defense exists, somewhere in Mayuri and/or Urahara's mind, or some obscure character's inherent skill.

Either way, he may still be able to affect said Quincy. Keep in mind that one's blood vessels are not at the very surface of their skin. Whether it's the Reishi-infused blood in the blood vessels that is blocking a weapon's cut, or the blood vessels themselves, that weapon had to cut through some distance of skin to get that far. If Book of the End only requires the slightest piercing of the skin, then Blut Vene can't defend against it even if it can stop it.

[AsGryffynn]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Well, the Fullbring is supposed to be able to "cut through anything", and when he does his insert cut, it does no damage. I'd argue that the insert cut isn't physically cutting the target, and thus cannot normally be blocked.

In short, I'd say that if he's cutting to do damage, then Blut Vene can block it, if the practitioner's BV is sufficiently strong, say equivalent to being able to block a Vice-Captain's Zanpakuto. If he's not trying to cut to damage, then it could only be blocked by something specifically designed to block something intangible. And I'm sure such a defense exists, somewhere in Mayuri and/or Urahara's mind, or some obscure character's inherent skill.

Either way, he may still be able to affect said Quincy. Keep in mind that one's blood vessels are not at the very surface of their skin. Whether it's the Reishi-infused blood in the blood vessels that is blocking a weapon's cut, or the blood vessels themselves, that weapon had to cut through some distance of skin to get that far. If Book of the End only requires the slightest piercing of the skin, then Blut Vene can't defend against it even if it can stop it.

I am going to go on a limb and say that Kido like Severing Void can block Book of the End, but Blut Vene is indeed limited to physical damage...

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

This one is off topic: Can Quincy's ability Blut Vene prevent Tsukishima's Fullbring Book of the End to from cutting through its defense and insert himself into the user?

Probably. Ginjo and Ichigo could stop Tsukishima's sword with their own weapons, so why can't a defensive power do the same?

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Probably. Ginjo and Ichigo could stop Tsukishima's sword with their own weapons, so why can't a defensive power do the same?

I don't know. Narrative physics? Why does one lightsaber block another, when they're supposed to "cut through anything"?

There's also Tsukishima's defense to take into account. An intangible sword isn't going to do much to protect him from Ichigo or Ginjo, is it? And he showed with Byakuya-niisama that he can cut through a Zanpakuto with his insert ability.

[Hiss13]

That. Was. Awesome.

Urahara's bankai was wonderful. Grimmjow appearance at the end. That was all I could ever ask for and more and Kubo delivered.

[LevelSeven]

Lol, this chapter was good
Awesome usage of grimmjows comeback

Btw, did anyone else mention that uraharas bankai is like crazy diamond fused with sticky fingers from jojo part4 and 5?

[Om Nerabdator]

oh got his heart crushed...but this is bleach so he'll power up next chapter and take out urahara then grimmjaws turn to fight him

[ChampDream]

That one awesome Bankai Urahara, honestly I didn't expect Grimmjow to appear, feel like this is done unless Askin transform into some silly looking animal quincy form.

[itachi-san314]

Good stuff! Much better than the Kyoraku showing. I have a feeling there will still be more though. One chapter of Kisuke's Bankai is not nearly enough.

[Wandering Soul]

I liked Kisuke's bankai and I hope to see more of it. I wasn't expecting Grimmjow to appear during this fight,

[Kafriel]

Hollows make grievers...Grimmjow is a KSer :P Also, Urahara's bankai is as arbitrary as they come; reconstructing anything it touches basically means he can tear everything apart, provided it's in effective range. Did I say arbitrary? Sorry, I meant broken.

[~Yami~]

Urahara's bankai is no doubt one of the strongest if used properly
It's like making his own world by restructuring everything

Grimmjow's appearance is surprising though.. very good chapter

[itachi-san314]

How long were the Quincies in the shadows of Soul Society? I ask because Kisuke said he hasn't used his Bankai since they were around, but if he used it when he tested to become a Captain, then shouldn't they have seen it?

[DerGilga]

I wonder if Benihime's bankai has some kind of drawback. Even if you could not harm an enemy with it, she's a pretty good medic. Maybe Benihime's restoration only last as long the Bankai is active.

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

How long were the Quincies in the shadows of Soul Society? I ask because Kisuke said he hasn't used his Bankai since they were around, but if he used it when he tested to become a Captain, then shouldn't they have seen it?

1000 years

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by DerGilga

1000 years

That's what I thought too. So then why don't they know about Kisuke's Bankai?