2009-06-26, 19:01 | Link #161 |
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I personally like the DC Comics definition of multiverse: universes occupying the same space but vibrating at different frequencies...
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2009-06-26, 19:53 | Link #162 | ||
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Aliens? Database, Balmar, actually too many. Time travellers? Raul and Fiona with Excellence, Duminass etc. Espers? The SRX Team, Kusuha and Bullet, GanEdens and too many others. Sliders? Shura, the 'Time Divers', Roa, Dark Brain, Holy War participants and actually everyone else lol SRW is Haruhi's perfect world lol Quote:
With the Level III multiverse being a multiverse that follows the many worlds intepretation, all universes floating in the multiverse is just like a Marvel Multiverse. So actually the Marvel Multiverse is just one universe in real physics.
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2009-06-26, 20:00 | Link #163 |
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lol just think of mecha science fiction as science fiction with hotbloodedness, burning passion, spirits of steel and guts.
I used to love Haruhi's hands most other than her eyes. In the future, humans many not need to have any physical action at all, that's why they may become weak. Time Travellers could actually be the physically fittest humans of their time because of their need to go back in time.
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2009-06-26, 20:08 | Link #164 | ||
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It's really up to the writes of a sci-fi story to define what a "multiverse" is, in this case. Quote:
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2009-06-26, 20:09 | Link #165 | |
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It has a sorta "WE ARE APES WHO WILL TEAR OFF YOUR SKULL AND DEFECATE ON YOUR BRAIN" vibe. Or it could be that in the future, almost everyone lives in space colonies on extremely low gravities. Thus even the people who like to be physically active probably don't develop that much musculature.
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2009-06-26, 20:12 | Link #166 | |
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And what I'm pointing out is that by applying real physics theories, scientists actually expect something more fantastic than what was imagined as fiction. Yes, Mikuru being as weak as she is, could actually be an example of a fit human from the future
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2009-06-26, 20:19 | Link #167 | |
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Space invaders from a parallel world of the future, with psychic powers, try to invade Earth and try to capture this super energy technology in the planet's strongest super robot. They cannot achieve that because they cannot defeat this super robot with this energy source that they want so much. Hmmm low gravity... Scientists growing cells in space found that they can't grow at all. But if its a low gravity planet, yea I think its possible. Time Travellers may actually come from Mars or something.
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2009-06-26, 20:31 | Link #168 |
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Dear everybody trying to explain the universe:
http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php Sincerely, Dakota
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2009-06-26, 23:03 | Link #170 | ||
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But again, it's just a theory, and one with a lot of holes (Yuki's description of her discovery by the Data Overmind, as noted above) and easier explanations (they're stargazing later in the night, also as suggested above), but let's be honest. Just turning back the clock is boring, and this isn't a science paper, it's an anime. Quote:
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2009-06-27, 01:02 | Link #172 |
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Haruhi is no normal anime. In fact Haruhi-sama invites you to join her in messing up logic, by bringing logic into discussion.
3 years ago we had a great time with such. But people seem to have less interest in such nowadays.
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2009-06-27, 03:33 | Link #175 | |
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As for the gif..... I simply remembered it after reading OkamiNoKaze's post and decide to shop it a bit for the lulz of it.
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2009-06-27, 07:27 | Link #178 | |
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This would only not be an issue if Haruhi really wasn't really sending the earth back in time, but just altering the earth to be in a state almost identical to that initial summer 500 odd years ago. In which case it wouldn't really be time travel. Of course if the loop created didn't actually have anything to do with time travel, one must wonder why it prevented Mikuru from time traveling. Damn furries
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2009-06-27, 08:39 | Link #179 | ||
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2009-06-27, 17:27 | Link #180 |
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I don't like bringing real physics or logic into discussions of fictional anime because the 'real' physics people start bringing up in order to explain stuff like time travel or alternate universes is crap.
On the issue of relative motion that's been brought up. The problem, you see, with applying that as an obstacle for some sort of time machine is that you are also assuming that space 'exists' in anything more than a local sense. Why should any one reference frame be preferable to another? If God picks the frame of 48 light years to the southwest of the Milky way for the conduction of my little time travel experiment, why can't I (equally objectively) pick the frame of the streetlamp anchored to the earth as my 'coordinates'? It's all the same. But then again, that's also the problem with portal-based or teleporting time travel in the first place. Time doesn't exist in anything more than a local sense either. To be clear, that means that 'past' and 'future' don't exist either, in any sense beyond Laplace's claim that, if a sufficiently powerful intellect knew the position and velocity of every particle at a given time, it could calculate the position and velocity of any particle at any other time. Time travel in Haruhi Suzumiya is dealt with by assuming the existance of a 'picturebook', to serve as a record and target point of various instances of 'past' and 'future'. This allows 'travel' by providing actual destinations. Scientifically, though, there is no reason for the existance of any such 'cosmic history', and any attempts to reconcile those fictional tropes with 'actual physics' are futile wastes of time. |
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