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Old 2012-11-29, 21:22   Link #401
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Seriously, what drugs they use ?
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Old 2012-12-02, 13:54   Link #402
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So there wasn't as much Erec Sama as the preview promised but we got our first focus episode on his men and they are definitely a weird bunch.

I think my favorite thing about this series is the way it subverts the antagonist's role. I mean the speech about not just relying on myself and relying on others that Erec game his men at the end definitely comes out of the hero hand book and another reason for me to love his character.
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Old 2012-12-02, 14:09   Link #403
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That escape was like "Team Rocket blasts off at the speed of light" thing... And every episode is so stupid... Wait, why I am even watching this baka show? O.o
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Old 2012-12-02, 14:38   Link #404
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Leon's push-ups at the beginning were hilarious. Episode focused more at ED's men, which was pretty good in my book.
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Old 2012-12-02, 15:36   Link #405
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The stories of the four subordinates were quite funny.
Killer move: Dogeza!

ED saving the day, this new sword looks stronger than the old one.
I wonder into what the pet transformed into?
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Old 2012-12-02, 16:58   Link #406
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The stories of the four subordinates were quite funny.
Killer move: Dogeza!
Amata did that first! xD When they started talking about killer moves I thought Variation would make a reference to that, too bad he didn't... xD

Anyway oh boy, those four. I could do with some more episodes focusing on ED's henchmen... XD;; (And one henchwoman, as it turned out. ) Also, wasn't this as if ED was the good guy here?

I also wonder about Pet's mysterious light.

"nyorori nyorori~" xD (Come to think of it, is Pet coming up with different sounds every episode? I need to check...)
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Old 2012-12-02, 17:05   Link #407
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The henchman is a henchman, just in his fantasy he is a woman.
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Old 2012-12-02, 17:13   Link #408
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Amata did that first! xD When they started talking about killer moves I thought Variation would make a reference to that, too bad he didn't... xD
You want a dogeza champion, try Oga's father (from Beelzebub). It's not just a killer move, it's a whole martial art school.

Variation's unexpectedly competent, all things considered.
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Old 2012-12-02, 17:34   Link #409
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The henchman is a henchman, just in his fantasy he is a woman.
Hmm, is that official info? IMO an "in his fantasies he's a girl" joke would sit better with someone like Leon or Gustave. KT being a crossdressing woman and the others having no idea about it would make the situation even more hilarious.

ETA:

Aha! Official twitter says:
"うんうん。 RT @takama2_shinji: 金髪ショートのKTは、中性的な美青年のようだが、実は男装の麗人。このことにはインコグニートの誰もが気 づいていない。 #イクサガ #anime"

"Yep. RT @takama2_shinji: KT, the one with the short blond hair, looks like an androgynous pretty boy, but actually she's a beautiful, cross-dressing woman. No-one in Incognito has noticed yet."

Apparently KT was also described as a "beautiful, cross-dressing woman" in a magazine though I don't have any scans.

ETA2:

Oh my. xD I don't know who this takama2_shinji person is, but he posted some Ixion Saga scripts.
The cover of the script for ep 7. Wow, it looks more serious than any anime script I've seen so far. XD

A page from the script for ep 1. This is the scene when Kon kicks Erec in the balls. That scribble there is what Kamiya Hiroshi was supposed to voice. XDDD

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Old 2012-12-02, 18:22   Link #410
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In the episode that is pretty much what they said if you go by the CR subtitles, when he gets drunk he acts like a woman & when he was talking it was his fantasy of what happened with Erec sama.

The tweet contradicts what the episode itself said. Although its not really a contradiction because it was only Erec's other men who said this and since according to the tweet they don't know...
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Old 2012-12-02, 18:58   Link #411
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Still can't beat FukuJun, but KT is pretty decent
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Old 2012-12-02, 20:14   Link #412
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In the episode that is pretty much what they said if you go by the CR subtitles, when he gets drunk he acts like a woman & when he was talking it was his fantasy of what happened with Erec sama.

The tweet contradicts what the episode itself said. Although its not really a contradiction because it was only Erec's other men who said this and since according to the tweet they don't know...
My interpretation is that they don't know that KT is a woman, which means there are no errors in the translation. Anyway the fact that when she is drunk she start talking ladylike suggests she really is.

It doesn't make sense for a man to start talking like that just because he's drunk. But imagine that KT is a woman, who dresses and poses as a man to be close to Erec. If said woman used to talk ladylike her whole life and only started to talk like a man recently to hide her true gender, it does make sense that when drunk she'd forget about how to "propertly" behave and that she'd act as she is most comfortable with.

Naturally her story was still a fantasy, because Erec never did what she described. At least on that the other henchmen were right.
But I think that the fact that KT is a woman is true.

The fact that the VA is female is another hint.

There's also the fact that her fantasies and thought patterns are more akeen to those of a woman rather than to those of a stereotypical okama.
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Old 2012-12-02, 20:40   Link #413
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Oh my. xD I don't know who this takama2_shinji person is, but he posted some Ixion Saga scripts.
That the director Shinji Takamatsu. He's the one I've been occasionally quoting trivia from in the thread.
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Old 2012-12-02, 21:49   Link #414
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The fact that the VA is female is another hint.
Well Saiga Mitsuki is known for voicing male characters

That being said like I already said in my post the tweet doesn't contradict the episode because it was Erec's men who said her/his fantasy is to be a woman but they don't know that she really is.

I didn't have the background of the tweet when I made my reply, so my initial post was only going by the episode....obviously that tweet changes my perspective.
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Old 2012-12-02, 23:10   Link #415
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Now this is an interesting episode about Erec's henchmen. Variation, Leon, Gustave, and KT. I fell sorry for Incognito, their group. I'm surprised that KT is actually a woman, but it looks like none of Incognito's members knew about KT's true gender. The hunt reminds me very much of Monster Hunter. As for Erec and the mysterious woman known as Alma Flora, they seem to know each other from long ago. Also, he gets a new sword Calibre with an Alma Crystal which is quite powerful. Pet is a mystery, but he seems to serve a purpose anyway for Alma Flora.
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Old 2012-12-02, 23:52   Link #416
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inb4 Pet actually turns into a bishonen
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Old 2012-12-03, 01:18   Link #417
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If the rumours are true, I wonder whether we would see a KT vs Marianne matchup. That'd be quite ironic.
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Old 2012-12-03, 02:27   Link #418
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That the director Shinji Takamatsu. He's the one I've been occasionally quoting trivia from in the thread.
Doh! *facepalm* Now that you mention...

(I never actually bothered to check out the staff other than the seiyuu. )
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Old 2012-12-03, 08:24   Link #419
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So the witch's name is not beatrice.
I wonder what the gnome gave him in the end - the whereabouts of the Kon group or artificial balls?
Flora managed to add a lot to the plot with just a few sentences until now.

Her motives are still unknown. To me it appears as if she doesn't really care that Erec lost the swort to Kon, if I had to make a guess everything goes just as planned for her.
What we do know now is, that she is up to no good.
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Old 2012-12-03, 08:33   Link #420
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I wonder what Erec would think if she knew that Alma Flora is the one who brought DT to their world.

I don't quite get what she is trying to achieve by helping St. Piria from one side and Erec's group from the other. Maybe she has an interest in making two hyperions fight each other?

I Think that she would have given the new alma gear to Kon if Erec didn't lose his to him.


We still don't have any insight of who is wrong or right among the two factions. We have seen a bit of those who give orders to Erec, but we know very little about St. Piria, apart from the fact that the Ecarlate family members can turn into demonic creatures.

Erec seems to think it's righteous to stop St. Piria. The loli princess however thinks that the marriage is necessary to prevent a war. However she said that the world is in a precarious balance, I don't get how a marriage can keep that balance rather than disestablish it. It will most likely mean that two realms will unite, causing the one from Erec's side to become the weaker one.

In addition from a meta perspective I doubt that this series will end with a loli "happily" marrying an old man for political reasons. I expect a twist and possibly the two archenemies will fight together in the end.
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